fish hooks any one?

**canid** · 10-02-2009, 02:23 PM

stumbled across this today, while looking for examples of alaskan composite hooks. it portrays hook types from around the new world:

http://www.lithiccastinglab.com/gall...hookspage1.htm

the information is largely cursory, but the pieces illustrated speak for themselves.

**panch0** · 10-02-2009, 02:36 PM

That is very interesting how alike and how different the hooks are.

**crashdive123** · 10-02-2009, 06:38 PM

I guess we are only limited by our imaginations.

**skunkkiller** · 10-02-2009, 06:58 PM

the gorges are the best and easies to make

**canid** · 10-03-2009, 11:26 PM

i'm partial to thorn hooks. made some more today from rose thorns for a [display only] trot line. i'm planning to make a few more types and post a pictorial.

**your_comforting_company** · 10-04-2009, 05:24 PM

nice catch. this will be useful to anyone needing ideas for how to make their own hooks. I stick with the gorges myself for the ease of being made, and the reliablility of landing. The hook shaped with double gorge "barb" is one I will be trying to recreate very soon. Thanks for sharing
anyone ever used boar teeth or other animal parts to make fish hooks?
My b.i.l. uses wild plum thorns, though they tend to break. I would think the coon baculum also would snap, but I'll have to try it to see. (someone has a new project)

**canid** · 10-04-2009, 05:30 PM

i'm working on a few composite hooks using antler, but i don't have any bone on hand. maybe i should try my hand at bending antler.

i'm still looking for my camera card to take some more pictures.

**canid** · 10-04-2009, 05:39 PM

here is a picture of a few so far.

[edit: found my small camera card]

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you can see where one of the bindings slipped off of the thorn in the double hook. before using, it would be best to re-do that one for strength.

the single thorn hooks are made by twining, inserting the bottom end of the thorn through the end loop, and inserting the top end through a look two turns up. they are then set in place with a simple overhand not, to hold them more securely. with fragile cordage, where a knot would weaken them too much, the turns could simply be held in place with an adhesive like pitch or another water proof adhesive.

**crashdive123** · 10-04-2009, 05:57 PM

Nice work.

**canid** · 10-04-2009, 06:35 PM

i'm now soaking some dry grass blades for a rough cord to serve as the trotline. no promises.

**canid** · 10-04-2009, 07:14 PM

here is a rose twig, split in half and trimmed up. it is bound in a secure fashion around the barb, up over the bottom of the twig and then several turns around the twig and tied off.

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here is a gorge made from a sliver of anlter. it is sharpened at both ends and notched to revieve it's line. it is left roughly rectangular in cross section so that the notch need only be carved intot the corners. this prevents the notch from being deep enough to weaken it substantially. the notch is carved about 2/5 along the length.this alows the short end to face in towards the line, and the long end to toggle.

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**crashdive123** · 10-04-2009, 07:21 PM

Nice work. What are you using for cordage.

**canid** · 10-04-2009, 07:30 PM

*ashamed* more artificial sinew.

i'm working on hand made cordage, but it's tedious, and i don't have a lot to work with right out in the back yard.

**canid** · 10-04-2009, 07:31 PM

the trouble with hooks this small is fine cordage leaders. you don't have to make as much of it, but the quality and strength has to be good.

don't worry, it is in the works. i've got to get it down sooner or later, right?

**canid** · 10-04-2009, 07:33 PM

the grinding is being done at the moment with 200 grit against a sanding block, but i get nearly identical results when i use the siliconized shale and fine basalt that are plentiful along all the streams and creeks in this region.

**crashdive123** · 10-04-2009, 07:34 PM

Hey - you use what you have. Looks good.

**Rick** · 10-05-2009, 08:39 AM

Those are VERY nice. Be cautious of the knot you use since the knot can cut itself if enough pressure is applied.

**canid** · 10-05-2009, 12:50 PM

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with fragile cordage, where a knot would weaken them too much, the turns could simply be held in place with an adhesive like pitch or another water proof adhesive.
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**Rick** · 10-05-2009, 04:34 PM

I was out earlier today and had to play with a Black Locust tree after I saw your hooks. The thorns would make a pretty good hook from what I could see.

**canid** · 10-05-2009, 04:44 PM

yeah; they look like they would be great:

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