Thoughts on pocket knives

[Winnie]

Thought you might like to see the actual law regarding knives in the UK

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/CrimeJus...tion/DG_078569

[peter nap]

I kinda hate to admit it....I carry two. An Uncle Henry Stockman (That's the real work knife) and a Buck trapper model (That's the always hair poppin sharp knife)
A poicket is the single most important tool to always have IMO

[crashdive123]

Three, including Leatherman Wave most of the time.

[2dumb2kwit]

Thought you might like to see the actual law regarding knives in the UK

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/CrimeJus...tion/DG_078569

Like CS said, there is a lot of grey area, concerning knives, over here. (And keep in mind, that there is federal law....and then there is state law, and all the states don't have the same laws.) There are the laws kind of like yours, about how big, and if you have a reason to have it, on you, if the knife is concealed.

The funny thing, is that where I live, (North Carolina) our "concealed carry permits" are actually a "concealed handgun permit".

That's right. Technically....it is legal for me to carry a high power handgun, concealed (I have a permit)....but I could go to jail if I had a knife in my pocket, that is too big! How's that for crazy?

[Pal334]

Thought you might like to see the actual law regarding knives in the UK

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/CrimeJus...tion/DG_078569

Winnie, it would appear that a standard pocket knife would be legal to carry
"knives where the blade folds into the handle, like a Swiss Army Knife, aren't illegal as long as the blade is shorter than three inches (7.62 cms)"
That is approximately the same length as the pocket knife I have always carried.
But then you do know how they are interpreting the law much better than I would

[crashdive123]

Be careful Winnie. I hear they are going to outlaw stern looks.

[peter nap]

Like CS said, there is a lot of grey area, concerning knives, over here. (And keep in mind, that there is federal law....and then there is state law, and all the states don't have the same laws.) There are the laws kind of like yours, about how big, and if you have a reason to have it, on you, if the knife is concealed.

The funny thing, is that where I live, (North Carolina) our "concealed carry permits" are actually a "concealed handgun permit".

That's right. Technically....it is legal for me to carry a high power handgun, concealed (I have a permit)....but I could go to jail if I had a knife in my pocket, that is too big! How's that for crazy?

Good old Va. There are some knives that can't be concealed (Dirk, Dagger< bowie Knife, Switchblade, etc) but you can carry anything openly and that includes handgun, rifle and shotguns....WITHOUT a permit.

Nearly any pocket knife can be carried in your pocket.

[peter nap]

Like CS said, there is a lot of grey area, concerning knives, over here. (And keep in mind, that there is federal law....and then there is state law, and all the states don't have the same laws.) There are the laws kind of like yours, about how big, and if you have a reason to have it, on you, if the knife is concealed.

The funny thing, is that where I live, (North Carolina) our "concealed carry permits" are actually a "concealed handgun permit".

That's right. Technically....it is legal for me to carry a high power handgun, concealed (I have a permit)....but I could go to jail if I had a knife in my pocket, that is too big! How's that for crazy?

Good old Va. There are some knives that can't be concealed (Dirk, Dagger< bowie Knife, Switchblade, etc) but you can carry anything openly and that includes handgun, rifle and shotguns....WITHOUT a permit.

Nearly any pocket knife can be carried in your pocket.

Now for something really odd. Va ha full preemption. No locality can pass an ordnance regulating the sale or carry of a firearm. Knives are not included in that.

I can and have, gone into a Board Of Supervisors meeting, wearing a 4" 44 magnum, but had to leave my Stockman folder in the car.

[hunter63]

I carried a Barlow knife since I was very young, but moved to a SAK.
Enjoy all the different tools, and still use it everyday for something.
Actually my SAK money clip also has a blade on it.

Also been carrying a cheap lock blade folder "clip" knife, mostly for work, when I was working, the "Hey anyone have a knife? knife.
So I guess you could say three, minimum, as well as a small version of a leather-man.

I like this one as it also has a small flashlight in one handle, so I can leave my Mini Mag on the shelf, unless I go back to work.

For years I wore a Gerber Touche' Belt buckle knife, until I lost the blade for a couple of weeks. After I found the knife part, I retired it.
Bought a cheap belt buckle knife but the blade was up-side down to the way I wear my belt, so retired also.

Then of course all hunting coats have a knife that stays there, and I do carry a belt knife, when hunting.

BOB's all have a fixed blade and folder, already packed.

Knives are like any other tool, firearm, truck, boat, trailer, you can never have enough, just keep them deployed in different spots, so no one knows how many you really have.

So I guess you could say I have a couple........

[lucznik]

I have been carrying a Swiss Army Knife of some kind since I was in grade school. Funny thing was that all my teachers knew I had the knife and none of them ever cared. In fact, they would often ask to borrow it from me when they needed to cut something. I still have one in my pocket at all times.

I've had quite a few, but I have finally settled on the Victorinox Fieldmaster as the (for me) best all-around configuration. I have never cared much for the Wenger SAKs. Not sure why. The only thing I can think of is that their scissors had a sort of serrated-ish blade that didn't cut paper with a nice clean, even line. I know, I know, I'm too anal about such things...

What I really wish Victorinox would do is create a "make-your-own" SAK service. You could select the size of the knife and then choose the implements that you wanted and they would put it together for you. I would willingly pay a premium to be able to specify exactly what I wanted like that.

I also usually have a Gerber Multiplier on my belt. It is pretty old, has been treated rough and is now really showing it. It is probably time to retire that tool and get an upgrade.

[glockcop]

I have been carrying a Swiss Army Knife of some kind since I was in grade school. Funny thing was that all my teachers knew I had the knife and none of them ever cared. In fact, they would often ask to borrow it from me when they needed to cut something. I still have one in my pocket at all times.

I've had quite a few, but I have finally settled on the Victorinox Fieldmaster as the (for me) best all-around configuration. I have never cared much for the Wenger SAKs. Not sure why. The only thing I can think of is that their scissors had a sort of serrated-ish blade that didn't cut paper with a nice clean, even line. I know, I know, I'm too anal about such things...

What I really wish Victorinox would do is create a "make-your-own" SAK service. You could select the size of the knife and then choose the implements that you wanted and they would put it together for you. I would willingly pay a premium to be able to specify exactly what I wanted like that.

I also usually have a Gerber Multiplier on my belt. It is pretty old, has been treated rough and is now really showing it. It is probably time to retire that tool and get an upgrade.

A "make your own" Victorinox service would be GREAT!! I would be first on the list, but my Vic Farmer has just about everthing I need. I would still have to get one if the service were available after much idea tossing. Best.

[Pict]

I have always carried a pocketknife of some sort since I was a kid. I have had a Spyderco Endura clipped to my pocket for the past eight years and use it every day for something.

I keep a SAK Farmer in my coat pocket fall through Spring but don't tolerate it well in summer in a pocket unless I'm wearing cargo shorts.

I've tried all sorts of replacements for the Endura but can't seem to get rid of it. I have started carrying a Benchmade Ritter RSK whenever I go off the pavement. It is a very capable knife but doesn't ride as light in the pocket as the Endura.

Always carry a knife, that's basic.

Mac

[glockcop]

I have always carried a pocketknife of some sort since I was a kid. I have had a Spyderco Endura clipped to my pocket for the past eight years and use it every day for something.

I keep a SAK Farmer in my coat pocket fall through Spring but don't tolerate it well in summer in a pocket unless I'm wearing cargo shorts.

I've tried all sorts of replacements for the Endura but can't seem to get rid of it. I have started carrying a Benchmade Ritter RSK whenever I go off the pavement. It is a very capable knife but doesn't ride as light in the pocket as the Endura.

Always carry a knife, that's basic.

Mac

Your last sentance are words to live by. Correct you are, Sir. IMO the Benchmade Ritter is a great choice for off the beaten path carry. Very strong design. It's also nice to know others who have similar tastes in their sharps. I just can't shelf my Farmer even though I have lots of other "Tacticool" blades and slip joints. I'm a pretty big guy so a thickish pocket knife does not get in my way too much. Normally in the woods my RC-3 accompanies my Farmer. If I want to go light my cord wrapped Becker BK11 (Kabar version, carbon steel) replaces my Rat RC-3. You sure can get that carbon steel super sharp, can't you? It is very interesting to me to hear what everbody prefers for their pocket carry blade. Stay safe.

[COUESAZ]

I cary a sak and a clip knife every day. I have had a knife on me every day of my life for about 30 years. I hate to fly now because i have to put them in my lugage under the plane.

[mcfd45]

I carry a gerber tanto folder for social work. I have a gerber or leatherman in the car or tackle box.

[Winnie]

Winnie, it would appear that a standard pocket knife would be legal to carry
"knives where the blade folds into the handle, like a Swiss Army Knife, aren't illegal as long as the blade is shorter than three inches (7.62 cms)"
That is approximately the same length as the pocket knife I have always carried.
But then you do know how they are interpreting the law much better than I would

That's the trouble Pal, interpretation
It is generally an offence to carry a knife in public without good reason or lawful authority (for example, a good reason is a chef on the way to work carrying their own knives)
This is the bit that causes the problems.


There have been cases where a small pocket knife has got a person into trouble. Personally, much as I don't like it, I'd rather not carry one than get into trouble. Although the liklihood of me getting stopped and searched is remote, Murphy's law states.......

[canid]

i have a nice old case stockman that i carry everywhere these days. i can't always carry a belt knife, but when it won't cause any trouble i prefer to.

[Pal334]

That's the trouble Pal, interpretation
It is generally an offence to carry a knife in public without good reason or lawful authority (for example, a good reason is a chef on the way to work carrying their own knives)
This is the bit that causes the problems.


There have been cases where a small pocket knife has got a person into trouble. Personally, much as I don't like it, I'd rather not carry one than get into trouble. Although the liklihood of me getting stopped and searched is remote, Murphy's law states.......

Mmmm,,perhaps you are running with a rowdy crew? Just teasing. It is a shame that these things have evolved as they have. Some may think that we here in the U.S. May not be far behind you folks

[your_comforting_company]

Murphy was an optimist...

[Rick]

Personally, much as I don't like it, I'd rather not carry one than get into trouble.

Winnie, find one that's inside the law. The Swiss Army knife would be a good example. Discuss the legality of it with a local constable if it would make you feel better. You just never know when something is going to happen and, as Pict said, a knife is the most basic tool you can have. In the extreme, a knife alone can save your life. In the moderate, they are just darned handy.