Does Anybody Arm Themselves With Glocks?

[Ole WV Coot]

Actually, SgtD, I get what your saying. I wonder how many on this forum rely on their weapon for home defense yet haven't been to the range or cleaned their weapon in a year. This is one area where "use it or loose it" can have terrible repercussions.

Yep Rick you hit it. I haven't fired my usual 50 rounds a week, down from 50 every other day. What I do have I am conserving like most everyone else. If
someone broke in I sure would hate to waste the ammo.

[peter nap]

Ammunition is expensive, and unfortunately often times (especially in this economy) smaller departments simply don't have the budget to give their officers more practice ammo. Officers could buy their own practice ammo, if they can find some (good luck), and if they have the money in their own budget to spend on it. Even after that, it then becomes a matter of finding a place to shoot. Our local privately owned ranges don't do LEO discounts, and our official county range will not allow officers to practice there on their own time without a certified firearms instructor present.

Thankfully I have always been a natural marksman. I wish I could say the same for everyone.

That's always been a pet peeve of mine too. I not only shoot for sport, I also carry a gun for defense. Fortunately, I not only handload, I cast my own bullets also. I shoot at least 5 times a week, two of those being drills with my 1911.

I hardly ever shoot a lot at each sitting, I just try to improve each time. Today, I shot three magazines of 45ACP, 20 roundss of 45Colt and 20 rounds from my 25/06.

I don't think it's necessary for most people to do that...but they could at least go out once a month.

BTW, I am not a natural marksman...especially with a handgun. I have to shoot often or I lose some of my ability,

[canid]

50rd/week would break my bank.

i don't get nearly enough time shooting but i don't think i could find that much ammo in my area.

[crashdive123]

I had stopped shooting as much due to my own percieved fears/concerns about the ability to obtain ammunition. Now that I have addressed those concerns and am comfortable with the ammunition on hand, I do not let it drop below that level. Started shooting more frequently from my "surplus" and resupply that accordingly.

[peter nap]

50rd/week would break my bank.
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Start casting. It does wonders for the bank account!

Note for folks that are thinking about casting. Wheel weights are getting hard to find. In fact, the EPA is trying to get rid of lead everywhere. Time to grab everyone you can find and store them.

[Ole WV Coot]

That's always been a pet peeve of mine too. I not only shoot for sport, I also carry a gun for defense. Fortunately, I not only handload, I cast my own bullets also. I shoot at least 5 times a week, two of those being drills with my 1911.

I hardly ever shoot a lot at each sitting, I just try to improve each time. Today, I shot three magazines of 45ACP, 20 roundss of 45Colt and 20 rounds from my 25/06.

I don't think it's necessary for most people to do that...but they could at least go out once a month.

BTW, I am not a natural marksman...especially with a handgun. I have to shoot often or I lose some of my ability,

I'm not a natural marksman either. I seldom fire any long guns just for practice. I carry a 45 also, don't shoot bullseye or much aimed shooting anymore. I have and do practice double tap point shooting with a few different handguns at whatever. I can walk outside and pick a small rock, throw a can really anything and simulated point shooting as double tap at a can, if I get good hits pick something else. I carry a Beretta Cougar 45, 38 S&W mod 60, sometimes Beretta Cougar mini 40 and a Walther PPK/S. Depending on where I might be going, always a walking stick, probably better
than a firearm so I burn a lot of powder. I don't reload now, gave everything to my son. I don't need a "formal" range as I live where I have blasted away
for years. I get or did get my ammo in bulk from a friend with an FFL who has
trouble getting ammo himself. I don't think you ever get good enough not to practice, personal opinion.

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

Huntin' season is here and it is when I get in most of my practice. This will be my first year huntin' deer with a handgun. Not saying practice isn't necassary but after huntin for 25+ most of my shooting is instinctual. Most practice I do is with the rifle at 100 yds. I just got my first real pistol, I had a peice of junk I was scared to handle as it is unsafe. When I bought my Colt.38 I took a walk out back and stabbed a broomstick in the ground and proceeded to chop into peices at 30yds. with a point and shoot fast draw. Haven't shot it since. It was a natural in my hand felt right with out even thinking about it.

[peter nap]

Huntin' season is here and it is when I get in most of my practice. This will be my first year huntin' deer with a handgun. Not saying practice isn't necassary but after huntin for 25+ most of my shooting is instinctual. Most practice I do is with the rifle at 100 yds. I just got my first real pistol, I had a peice of junk I was scared to handle as it is unsafe. When I bought my Colt.38 I took a walk out back and stabbed a broomstick in the ground and proceeded to chop into peices at 30yds. with a point and shoot fast draw. Haven't shot it since. It was a natural in my hand felt right with out even thinking about it.

That's true for hunting and as long as I shoot a rifle well, it's OK. I do enjoy rifle shooting though. Handgun hunting is the same....

But defensive shooting is different. The memory muscles are different and it involves drawing and shooting which doesn't normally happen in the field.

I take that pretty seriously. I've been shot and don't plan on it happening again.

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

That's true for hunting and as long as I shoot a rifle well, it's OK. I do enjoy rifle shooting though. Handgun hunting is the same....

But defensive shooting is different. The memory muscles are different and it involves drawing and shooting which doesn't normally happen in the field.

I take that pretty seriously. I've been shot and don't plan on it happening again.

Agreed I will be going for my CCW soon and will probably need another pistol as the Colt is right around 12" long. I am sure the class and the pistol will require plenty of practice. Probably be seting up a pistol range at home as well.

[2dumb2kwit]

Agreed I will be going for my CCW soon and will probably need another pistol as the Colt is right around 12" long. I am sure the class and the pistol will require plenty of practice. Probably be seting up a pistol range at home as well.

If the CC class is like the ones here, when you get to the shooting part, you'll look at the instructor, and ask if he is kidding. You can shoot what they want, with your eyes closed. LOL

If you can put rounds in a man size target, at 21', you're good to go. (As far as the cc class goes......I expect much more, from anyone who is a responsible person.)

...and yes, that was 21 feet, not yards! LOL

[Rick]

When I went to the class here...oh, wait. We don't have to go to a class. That's right. We're an AMERICAN state. Just ask and you shall receive. That's what I'm talkin' about!

[aflineman]

I really like the Glock 19, it just does not fit my hand well. Stone reliable, and I would never feel undergunned with one, but they are not my first choice.

[Ole WV Coot]

That's true for hunting and as long as I shoot a rifle well, it's OK. I do enjoy rifle shooting though. Handgun hunting is the same....

But defensive shooting is different. The memory muscles are different and it involves drawing and shooting which doesn't normally happen in the field.

I take that pretty seriously. I've been shot and don't plan on it happening again.

Just one little thing, muscles don't have memories. You hone your reflexes, eye-hand co-ordination. That was the first thing that was pounded into me in martial arts or combat training. If I used a gun, knife, hands or feet I wasn't taught anything but how to win, guess that's outdated since somebody is teaching some combat system on every corner that you can't pronounce. I don't carry to hunt anymore, just for self defense and I have never pulled a gun in the states, hope I never will. Need to learn point, aimed, weak hand shooting, one hand reload, either hand, keep a full mag by changing if given the chance and much much more. Those old muscles don't know much, the brain has to tell them what to do.

[mortars101]

its not so much muscle memory but doing the same thing over and over again i believe it takes the human bodyand mind at least two thousand repititions to automatically do that action i can vouch personally for it it saved my life many times in combat and ill believe it to the day they pry the gun out of my dead hands just my two cents mortarman out

[mortars101]

im just saying practise practise practise

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

I guess that is what I am saying it is purely intinctual now very little thought required. Not taking away from practice but really guns feel like an extension of my hands.. Maybe since Dad started me at the range from almost birth it is just natural....

[mortars101]

yep you are dead on

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

Ya'll got me wantin' to go test my theory on some paper now!

[mortars101]

yep ill be shootin it up tommorow

[canid]

its not so much muscle memory but doing the same thing over and over again...

i'm pretty sure that that is what muscle memory is.