emergency handling and basic understanding of a Commericial Airliner

**canid** · 08-31-2009, 06:39 PM

haha.

a month later, how do you know a hippie had been at that same party..?

**Airbus340** · 08-31-2009, 07:23 PM

Well Sarge,
I think were Sorted then. Sorry to hear your feelings on flying but certainly respect them. Flying overall is 1000X safer than driving, but you are right, when you do crash the floor is allot farther away in an aircraft

Rob

Originally Posted by Sarge47

Yup! That's me! I'm a "hard-liner!" Always have been, always will be. I don't "walk on eggshells" around any of the members here unless I sense that they have some sort of mental illness. Given the fact that you're a pilot I know that you are subject to periodic medical exams so you shouldn't have any. I have nothing against you. I don't fly, & refuse to because of the fact that if a plane has a problem 35,000 feet in the air you can't just pull over to the curb & check it out! That has nothing to do with you. Here's the thing, the membership here is the best! The ones who stay do so because they learn or teach & have the intestinal fortitude to stick it out. We have many members on here who are professional in many different areas. I'm sure that a commercial pilot would be a valuable asset, but that's up to you; you're an adult, you make the decision.

**Airbus340** · 08-31-2009, 07:27 PM

No thank you Rick, for your understanding and time.

Rob

Originally Posted by Rick

No problem, Rob. No blood, no foul. I am glad we cleared up any misunderstanding.

**Sarge47** · 08-31-2009, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Airbus340

Well Sarge,
I think were Sorted then. Sorry to hear your feelings on flying but certainly respect them. Flying overall is 1000X safer than driving, but you are right, when you do crash the floor is allot farther away in an aircraft

Rob

Great, thanks a lot, now I'm afraid of driving as well! (just kidding) For years I thought I was afraid of heights, but no, that's not it. Then I thought it was the fear of falling that bothered me, but no again! It's the sudden stop at the end that gets me!

Okay, maybe I mis-spoke when i spoke to you earlier, so let me put it this way. We get all types of people on here, and you're going to find that some of them will rub you the wrong way sooner or later. I've been criticized for "lack of diplomacy" in the past and will, undoubtedly, be criticized for it in the future. I don't care; I'm not here to salve anybody's "wittle itty-bitty feelwings." I'm here to help keep them alive! I don't take that lightly. I also understand that the kind of people we get on this forum are the kind that don't fit the mold that a normal society expects; they're NOT sheeple! So I take them as I find them, and expect the same from them in regards to me. Judging from what you've confided in me, if I ever have a brain-fart and decide to fly I doubt I'd be in safer hands than yours, and that should be telling you something. That being said, you'll never be getting any "warm & fuzzies" from me. I realize this can make me unpopular, so what? We all have different personalities & I don't expect anyone to change theirs to suit me, why should others expect me to change mine for them? "Politically correct" is a term that many on here do not adhere to. I don't say this to be mean, but to tell you what you might expect from time to time. My "aggressive attitude" has stopped Trolls & Spammers dead in their tracks. Actually I hope you hang around, but that's not up to me. I think, after you've been here awhile, you'll see what I'm talking about. Remember, It's the "Wolf-Pack", (& bears) not the "pussy-cats."

**SARKY** · 08-31-2009, 10:38 PM

As far as Vref, that would depend on 2 factors, the weight of the aircraft at the time of landing and wether or not we were using approach flaps or landing flaps (that is how they are designated at the flap handle) we had a landing speed chart attached to the overhead which had the speeds listed by weight using full/landing flaps with airspeed additions for approach flaps and no flaps (obviously higher landing speeds than full flaps)

**Rick** · 08-31-2009, 11:33 PM

See? That Sarge is just a big ole lovable lunk a munk.

**Airbus340** · 08-31-2009, 11:54 PM

sarge,
I will most certainly accept that as a huge compliment coming from you. SARKY, yes all VREF is calculated by weights

and dirty speeds is VREF but never mind ,I'm sorry I shouldn't have asked you that question it's kind of unfair, seeing as you weren't the PF so my bad. But thank you for the info anyhow.

Regards
Rob

Originally Posted by Rick

See? That Sarge is just a big ole lovable lunk a munk.