buying property

[wareagle69]

maybe a miss print but 40 acres is not 12km by 12km
an acre is about 209 x 209 ftsq

[Rick]

It's actually a selion of land one furlong long and one chain wide.

[STB]

Hey
well i feel like a complete idiot. Ok i was wrong 40 acres is only 400m by 400m. That seems alot smaller, and i would need alot more then 40 acres to live off of. And for the house, probably a cabin, or wigwam. But now im on the hunt for more land.
sorry about that math error.
I could be wrong here as well:P

[wareagle69]

ya if you want to get confusing i can print the whole speil too, but i'm keeping it simple (kiss) for some ppl

[wareagle69]

why more than forty acres? granted i bought 77 but still i have lakes close by to fish on, i can hunt and cultivate my own property, if you r looking to grow food five acres would be more than enough unless it is a cash crop, also learn more about wild edibles, they will be in my summer videos

[STB]

Well thats good to hear. So 5 acres used for food, and ya everything else id leave wild and just eat the wild eating plants. But would 40 acres realyl be enough for wild animals and such? I guess up there youd pretty much be surrounded by pretty much nothing but more bush. But what if i had to leave my land to hunt, but then again iv never done this before and by the sounds of it you have experience. So thats good to hear, i wont need to throw down too much cash.
Thanks.

[wareagle69]

what will you do for a living? or r u financially independent , i live about an hour to an hour and a half from town all depending on the weather, but there is lots of crown land to hunt and fish on and to collect wild edibles, you could also keep your own stock such as cows pigs chickens and laying hens the just take to the mennonites to butcher..

[george hayduke]

And for the house, probably a cabin, or wigwam. But now im on the hunt for more land.

Have you thought about building a yurt? i plan on living in one while i build my cabin. look them up you can build one for almost nothing and it will with stand the weather.
if you want to build a cabin and don't know how to you can find plans and diy kits online. i thought about doing this but since i'm going to live in a yurt i'm building my cabin from scratch.

[george hayduke]

STB - check out this site if you want to find some land. http://www.countryplans.com/smf/index.php

scroll down the bottom and look for the section Land: Buy, Sell, Find and you can put an AD up there, as well as look for properties. lots of like minded people there too interested in homesteading. many of these people have built their own cabins.

[trax]

RE: mineral rights, yep same here in Canada, but if the land you're looking at doesn't have a claim staked on it, you can do it yourself, register your claim and as long as you do some work on it ....just re-register it every year. Of course if you're in an area with near zero possibility of having a "find" the mineral companies won't be interested. They know what they're doing pretty much.

George...I see Doc contacted you, have you seen Seldom Seen lately?

[STB]

O wow that fourm has tons of stuff! Some of the cabins they have shown are more then i plan to build but some great ideas! thanks very much for that site.

[george hayduke]

O wow that fourm has tons of stuff! Some of the cabins they have shown are more then i plan to build but some great ideas! thanks very much for that site.

aye- granted some of the "small cabins" those people build are more like mini-mansions I have found lots of great small cabin ideas on there that would cost almost nothing to build and would be highly efficient.

[trax]

aye- granted some of the "small cabins" those people build are more like mini-mansions .

Man I hear that. I've been researching a lot of different plans etcetera and some of the stuff I see I think Holy crap, who's going to heat that thing?

[wareagle69]

what do you know about ol ed abbey? most canucks have never heard or read his prose

[STB]

Hey
Was wondering if anyone knew any good websites that had land in northern BC for sale. I search in google, and i get places north of Vancouver but not much, nothing with big plots like 40 acres or anything like that. Who owns all that land? The government and natives?

[george hayduke]

what do you know about ol ed abbey? most canucks have never heard or read his prose

ed abbey is a god around my house.

Man I hear that. I've been researching a lot of different plans etcetera and some of the stuff I see I think Holy crap, who's going to heat that thing?

yeah well living off the grid to some of these people is a weekend out of the office in their cabins. i want nothing bigger than 350 sq ft. some of these people have cabins with 2 stories! and some of the people there have no idea what i'm trying to talk about. real, authentic off the grid living is just something people did in the 1700's to them.

[george hayduke]

stb probably the government owns most of that land. the best thing to do i'm finding out is just going up there and looking for the land yourself. i haven't been able to find much on the internet myself. i'm buying a ticket in the spring and buying what i want. atleast i have friends in AK i can stay with while im up there. one of them is even going to help me build my cabin he told me.

[Nativedude]

I think there are a lot of things that you both need to think about:

If your going to keep your car or truck, then you need a road, if not you need a horse and pack mule, and know how to take care of them and their needs. . . .For any emergency's there will be no phone service or online service. You'll need a sat phone (regular cell won't work. Ham radio is an option) and a sat card for your puter if you want one.(for many reasons) but for all of these, how will you create electricity. . . .You'll need to be near a good clean constant water supply, very near. . . .You'll need an abundance of firewood and a place to keep it.(Preferably dry) without gas for a chainsaw, lots of chopping is needed, I do mean a lot. . . .If your growing food, check how good the soil is, and the growing season, so you'll know how much land you need to grow your food to last through non growing periods. . . .What are the hunting laws, how will you keep or treat your meat for year round. . . .Your water supply must contain a good supply of fish. How will you keep or treat the fish for year round using. Unless your proficient at ice fishing. And what are the fishing laws. . . .These are just a few things, hopefully you get where I'm going at with the list you need to make, to help with your decision, even things like, soap, toilet paper, toothpaste, etc.
Most people take or overlook the simple things around their homes for granted. Go room by room and ask yourself what do I need and what can I truly live without. Are you going to make your own oils for your lighting from the fat from your kills? . . .You may decide that you want to live closer to a town, or neighbor, for some supplies etc. . . .Just think this through. JMHO But I've seen many, many people not make it after so much work and the expense of buying their wilderness dream land and home. Some even loose their lives when they didn't have to, from accidents and sickness because of the lack of communication abilities. Plan it all out on paper, every detail... Remember the average life span of people living even in the late 1800's out in the wilderness, was half of what the life span is today.

You are right on the mark Gray Wolf!!

It takes a lot of thought and preparation to live full time in the back country of Alaska. I had been traveling all around AK for ten years before I decided to move there. Then it took 6 years of planning and preparing before I actually did it. You can read about it at the link below:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=1066

For firewood, I cut/chop and haul approx. 30 trees (40'-50'x8-10"dia.) every spring for the following winter. In the summer I go through approx. 7 cords of wood. I chop and/or cut all my wood with my double bit forest ax or my 4' Swedish timber saw, and I split all of it with my double bit ax. . .NO GAS. . .NO POWER TOOLS OF ANY KIND! ALL BY HAND!

Power tools are not allowed in the area where I live and there is no way to get gas anyway!

[Rick]

Geese, Native Dude. That's really a pretty good description to put that lifestyle into perspective. It wouldn't take a whole lot to unbalance that life style. A guy pulls a back muscle or sprains an ankle and he could go mighty hungry or cold if his stores weren't already put up.

[trax]

what do you know about ol ed abbey? most canucks have never heard or read his prose

I've read four or five of his books, maybe six. The quote on my tag line is his. He's one of my all time favorite authors, just loved the guy's attitude. Monkey wrench gang forever, bro!