My Rifle Survival Kit

[crashdive123]

Well, knowing how us sailors think............just sayin.

[SARKY]

For some reason as of late, i seem to be the butt of puns and jokes. Is it my turn and no one told me??? I corrected the link!
As to a .22lr taking game at 100yrds, it's possible but remember 2 things any wind is going to greatly affect the bullets trajectory at that range and second, you don't have a lot of energy left at that range so don't think that your super duper hollow point bullet is going to expand! You are probably better off with solids and if you can hold an inch and a half to 2 inches go for the head shot. Better yet get off your *** and stalk a little closer to your intended game! I hate wounding animals and wasting ammo!

[Rick]

Okay kids, gather 'round. Pull up a chair. This is going to be a rare event. Something akin to a total eclipse. Many have posted on survival kits in weapons and I have poo poo'd the idea. I have waxed philosophic about weapon weight and balance being altered. Are you ready? I was wrong. There! I've said it. You've won me over. Well, that and staring into the empty butt of my Maverick 88 thinking....that's a lot of room. A survival kit would fit in there really well. So I've converted. I'm a born again survivalist! I've seen the light!

Here's another post:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...rvival+shotgun

[Ken]

I've seen the light!

Did Rick post this? Or did 2dumb?

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[Rick]

Oh, look! Hand puppets on the wall!

[wilf123]

walmart isnt that the company that owns asda over here in the uk ,its where i go to buy my groceries once a month ,and over here the nearest thing they sell to a gun is a computer game wow .22 rifles in the isles thats mad ,do you just pick it off the shelf and pay at the counter what about your permits and things

[wilf123]

.22 long rifle used to be the snipers choice many moons ago can be lethal up to a good 600 yrds my airifle takes out rabbits and crows at over 100yardsand no bang just a little spring twang ,but 40yrds away down range its not heard ,i would say .22 rimfire long rifle shells are good for at least a hundred yards all depends on the ability of the shooter.

[Rick]

Wilf - Yes, ASDA is part of the Wal Mart family. Yes you can purchase rifles and shotguns at many of the stores here in the States. As for permits, it depends on state and local laws. Some states require the person to be registered as a gun owner. Some states require the weapon to be registered. Some states don't require any registration. There are national laws that govern stores like Wal Mart but if you are not a convicted felon, have no documented history of mental illness and no history/conviction of domestic abuse, you can usually acquire a weapon.

You can hit rabbits and crows at 100 yards with an air rifle? That thing must be a tack driver.

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

Sarky,

I do not yet have a .22 rifle I hunt with. I am looking to buy one. Unless you count my 1907 pump that is hangin' for decoration. For the record no animal I ever shot lived unless it was a maybe a duck. I am only considering the .22 for survival purposes due to the ease at which I can stock the ammo. I have a .22 pistol and figure I may as well carry along a rifle as well. I have been considering the little gun posted here, the Henry survival rifle or the Henry lever action. Personally my thoughts are this if I put in my time at the range I will know my capability with .22 and the results will be the same as my other guns. Loud bang dead prey. Alot can be said for knowing what an ethical shot is. I simply don't pull the trigger if it isn't a clean kill. I rank hunting sportsmanship way up on my list! Is the gun in this post made in the US? I want to know if the rifling is gonna stay put. See if you took stupid shots growing up you didn't go on the next trip with Dad... Just wanna make sure were clear about my ethics.

[Rick]

CS - Give some thought to the Ruger 10/22. I've owned mine for a very long time, close to 30 years. I've dropped a lot of squirrels with it. It has been a reliable, accurate weapon that just keeps on working. If you want it for survival then you want the most reliable platform you can get. And the 10 round magazine gives some comfort over a single shot.

[wilf123]

its the only tack driver we are allowed to keep over here in the uk gun control gone mad and its coming your way soon

[Rick]

I saw the previews. I think the show premieres later this month.

[wilf123]

your gonna love it

[SARKY]

CS, I have an AR-7, and as nice and convienent as it is, it is no where near the tackdriver the 10-22 is. My recommendation for a .22 rifle (that will handle most situations) will always be the 10-22. Hell, I'm trying to find another used one. The wifey wants one in tactical pink. But I digress, There are more options for the 10-22 than there are for any other .22, that might include the AR-15. If you want to make it lighter get a carbonfiber barrel, shorter? folding stock (I am in the process of putting together a P-90 style stock for one of my 10-22's, that should put me at the minimum leagal length for a fireable firearm). Add to all of this, it's reliability and the fact that you can get magazines up to 50 round capacity (not to mention a .22 short conversion kit) It is a lot of gun for the money.

[hunter63]

I'm also a fan of the 10/22, and started a thread in the "GUNS" to discuss various options for this hard working tool.

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

OK I can see the 10-22 point. Look I have lots of heavy calibers .270 is my fav. but as far as stocking the ammo. I don't see it being an option. Maybe I am just a tightwad. What is the price on the 10-22 ammo like. I know nothing about this caliber. I love to hunt and all of guns were bought for that single purpose. I am not one that studies guns. I am willing to listen though, so tell me what is gonna cost to put up a good supply of ammo if I went with the 10-22?

[2dumb2kwit]

OK I can see the 10-22 point. Look I have lots of heavy calibers .270 is my fav. but as far as stocking the ammo. I don't see it being an option. Maybe I am just a tightwad. What is the price on the 10-22 ammo like. I know nothing about this caliber. I love to hunt and all of guns were bought for that single purpose. I am not one that studies guns. I am willing to listen though, so tell me what is gonna cost to put up a good supply of ammo if I went with the 10-22?

You can get it .22 mag, or maybe .17 HMR, but normally when people refer to a 10-22, they mean it in .22lr. $15 to $17 for a box of 500+, at wal-mart.

[crashdive123]

OK I can see the 10-22 point. Look I have lots of heavy calibers .270 is my fav. but as far as stocking the ammo. I don't see it being an option. Maybe I am just a tightwad. What is the price on the 10-22 ammo like. I know nothing about this caliber. I love to hunt and all of guns were bought for that single purpose. I am not one that studies guns. I am willing to listen though, so tell me what is gonna cost to put up a good supply of ammo if I went with the 10-22?

The last several boxes of .22 LR I picked up were $13.97 a box (550 round boxes)

[SARKY]

The big difference between your .270 and the .22lr is like the difference between a sledge hammer and a picture fame hammer. You need to be more precise with your shot. When i was stationed in Maine, one of the local tribes killed a moose with a super single six! Of course they did it by driving the moose into a lake, getting into deep water, then coming along side in a canoe, sticking the muzzle in the mooses ear and pulling the trigger. But it worked. The .22lr is an inherently accurate roud. The 10-22 is accurate out of the box(but the trigger sucks!). Get a volquartsen trigger kit and install it yourself. you will see a world of difference in shooting the 10-22.

[rebel]

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=136509384

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Ammo

Adds up to over $500.00 bucks for a .22

I guess I need convincing as to why it would be better to spend 500 on a .22 than on more ammo for what I have and more beans and gear.