The Way of The Scout.

[Rick]

Uh, negative there Beo. Restin' and regroupin'. The South's gonna rise again.

[Beo]

Rick your from Central Indiana, not the south.

[Rick]

Ah, but I was raised in Southern Illinois....ya'll.

[Rick]

Back home we warsh things. Ain't got stuff. Don't make no never mind. Shore 'nough. And ya'll come back now. It's where redneck is spoken, lived, breathed and country music reins supreme along with Winchester and Budweiser. Although I was always a PBR man, myself.

[Beo]

Southern Illinois is not the southern United States, its the mid-west. You're outta the fight bro, And wouldn't join a fight here in the U.S (except invasion) I'd head to the wilds and leave ya'll to fight it out.

[Rick]

It's like goin' to Portsmouth, Ohio, Beo. Tell them they ain't in the South.

[Beo]

They ain't in the south. Nowhere in Ohio is in the Southern US, simple geogrophy. But I don't get into the whole North vs South deal anyway. A country boy can be found anywhere.

[nell67]

Back home we warsh things. Ain't got stuff. Don't make no never mind. Shore 'nough. And ya'll come back now. It's where redneck is spoken, lived, breathed and country music reins supreme along with Winchester and Budweiser. Although I was always a PBR man, myself.

True story. I was an all white kid in and all white family in an all white neighborhood in an all white county. That's the truth, too.

Rick? Are ya shore you werent born'n raised in Indiana???We talk like that here too,oh wait yore in CENTRAL Indiana!!!!!!!!LMAO!!!

[Beo]

Still not the South.

[Smok]

Sarge47 your right the kids need help they need to go out in the woods more. A girl Friend of mine had a son 13 years old then , he was in the Scoots . I went with the group a few times and kept my mouth shut . But I can only take so much the group leaders new absolutely nothing . So soon I was tailing them little things like , how to sharpen a knife , what type of boots you need in the woods , way that fire is so smoky. I had only been there 3 times and the leaders were more then willing to step back and lat me show the boys how the woods can work for you and not against you. ....Now I am retired and have time. I am thinking of going to the Scoots and help out if I can . Your post has given me the push to go " THANKS ".* ** I think ????*

[Sarge47]

Sarge47 your right the kids need help they need to go out in the woods more. A girl Friend of mine had a son 13 years old then , he was in the Scoots . I went with the group a few times and kept my mouth shut . But I can only take so much the group leaders new absolutely nothing . So soon I was tailing them little things like , how to sharpen a knife , what type of boots you need in the woods , way that fire is so smoky. I had only been there 3 times and the leaders were more then willing to step back and lat me show the boys how the woods can work for you and not against you. ....Now I am retired and have time. I am thinking of going to the Scoots and help out if I can . Your post has given me the push to go " THANKS ".* ** I think ????*

Glad to hear it Smok; I can't tell you what a difference you can make in someone's life. I'll be posting more on this later.

[Sarge47]

Elsewhere I've printed the "Survival list" that The Boy Scouts had printed out in their 1984 Field Book. In their 1969 FB they had a 33pg. chapter(#16) dedicated to Survival, with a "how to make a SK" in chapter #24. My last visit to a Boy Scout supply store revealed how dissapointing the current Field Book is/was. The fellow at the shop was selling Paul Tarwell's 1st book in their place to any interested. I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this but it comes from the 1984 FB's chapter #12: "Survival Preparedness" as a quote proceeding the chapter. BTW, this chapter is only 4 pages long. They kept losing their informative thrust to an important topic.

"The worst thing you can do is get frightened. The truly dangerous enemy is not the cold or the hunger, so much as the fear. It robs the wanderer of his judgment and of his limb power; it is fear that turns the passing experience into
a final tragedy...keep cool and all will be well...use what you have, where you are, right now." Ernest Thompson Seton, 1908.

Truer words were never spoken. If one can teach this to young people what a strong adult they can become.

[Rick]

Smok, a bit of the obvious. Teaching your skills and sharing your knowledge is just one more way of achieving immortality. I'm sure you've heard the old saying that no man dies until he's forgotten. I think that is also true of the knowledge and skills we pass on. Sort of, "No man dies until what he has taught is forgotten." My youngest son and I are already passing our knowledge on to my grandchildren. Giving your time to the Scouts is an admirable, thoughtful, and giving present that can allows you to live on through them.

My humble thoughts.

[Smok]

Thanks Rick I've thought of that as I have no kids . I was too busy with work to even get married ,and now ...Well ..You all know, it is the same old story ..

[Beo]

Yeah, but even Jermaih Johnson got a squaw.

[pgvoutdoors]

As a District committee member, and now a Assistant Scout Master, I've seen the good and the bad in the BSA as well as the boys. The bottom line is that the BSA still offers a great program for boys to have fun, plus learn a bit about responsibility. It may not lean as heavily on the outdoor activities as it once did, but I can't think of many programs left that do as much as the BSA. I have a troop of forty boys, we camp every month, and have a High Adventure Program every other year. The boy do good, they try hard and always come away learning something. No man I've met speaks ill of his time as a scout, be it one year or all the way to Eagle. Yes, I was a Scout and my son is working on his Eagle!!! I believe outdoor skills should be passed on in any reasonable manner possible.

[Sarge47]

As a District committee member, and now a Assistant Scout Master, I've seen the good and the bad in the BSA as well as the boys. The bottom line is that the BSA still offers a great program for boys to have fun, plus learn a bit about responsibility. It may not lean as heavily on the outdoor activities as it once did, but I can't think of many programs left that do as much as the BSA. I have a troop of forty boys, we camp every month, and have a High Adventure Program every other year. The boy do good, they try hard and always come away learning something. No man I've met speaks ill of his time as a scout, be it one year or all the way to Eagle. Yes, I was a Scout and my son is working on his Eagle!!! I believe outdoor skills should be passed on in any reasonable manner possible.

Yeah, like he said! There's always room in the scouts for Survival training.

[FVR]

Boy Scouts offer a great program if you're religious beliefs are the same as theirs and if you are not .......................no need to go there.

But then what do I know, I went and got kicked out for beating the crap out of a fellow BS, (big SOB) one for hitting me with a stick. So, I hit him with a chain, alot harder. Then my mother hit me with a belt even harder.


Boy, I just opened a can of worms.

[Sarge47]

Boy Scouts offer a great program if you're religious beliefs are the same as theirs and if you are not .......................no need to go there.

But then what do I know, I went and got kicked out for beating the crap out of a fellow BS, (big SOB) one for hitting me with a stick. So, I hit him with a chain, alot harder. Then my mother hit me with a belt even harder.


Boy, I just opened a can of worms.

See? I told those Boy Scouts were a tough outfit, but get a load of that "Den-Mother!" Talk about tough!

[awfoxden]

As a District committee member, and now a Assistant Scout Master, I've seen the good and the bad in the BSA as well as the boys. The bottom line is that the BSA still offers a great program for boys to have fun, plus learn a bit about responsibility. It may not lean as heavily on the outdoor activities as it once did, but I can't think of many programs left that do as much as the BSA. I have a troop of forty boys, we camp every month, and have a High Adventure Program every other year. The boy do good, they try hard and always come away learning something. No man I've met speaks ill of his time as a scout, be it one year or all the way to Eagle. Yes, I was a Scout and my son is working on his Eagle!!! I believe outdoor skills should be passed on in any reasonable manner possible.

I agree 100%. i also am in scouting and have been for the last 3 years even though i don't have a son in scouting yet. one of the many things that adult leadership training (woodbadge) teaches is "leaving a legacy". there is also another saying "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

a local troops focus nowdays is based on what the direction of the local troop wants to do. if you have active adult leaders (very dificult to find responsible adults unselfish enough to give of themselver these days; life always gets in the way) you can still lead, influence, and direct the troop into these kinds of outdoor programs as in the old days. its just requires more involvement and planning. the limits that i have seen in bsa have always come from what the adults are willing to do or invest. the kids imaginations run like wild fire and they love camping and being outdoors.

as for being apart of the religion that the troop is apart of - bsa doesn't prescribe to any one religion and all are welcome and tolerance and respect for all faiths is (or should be) taught and encoraged. i realize this is not always the case but again individual units run their programs differently. all should conform to the national bsa program but unfortunatly many do not. it is like just about any organization you will always have some chaff with the weat. its apart of human nature.

i see the scouts as an extreamly valuble organization that still benifits everyone in the country. yes its not what it was a generation ago, that is too bad, i wish i could be, but as most things in life it has changed with time. i still believe that its a good organization that i'm willing to invest my time into and if i can help 1 boy to grow into a good man then that is all the legacy i need to leave behind. i cant wait for my son to be old enough to start scout as this will be great times for father and son to spend together, but also it will aid him in growing into a good and moral person, a strong leader, and a responsible american.

the other benefit for me is a great excuse for me to get out backpacking and camping at least once per month and gives me the oportunity to pass on some of the woodsman skills ive learned. the great part is when a young man looks at you right in the eye and says thank you, and you know he realy means it. what more reason to you need to help them out.

i would encourage anyone with the types of outdoor skills that i've seen on this site to get involved and volunteer you time with a local bsa troop. i promise you won't be disapointed.


ok - i'll get off my soap box and stop giving my sales pitch. but it is a great program