Survivorman/Man vs. Wild.

**Canadian-guerilla** · 12-02-2007, 09:40 PM

but what the viewing public is maybe getting
mislead about is the reality of survival
as i stated in an earlier post
BEAR KNOWS that someone is only 25 feet away
and thus may take extra chances

with all these things that Bear " consumes "
who knows how many times he's been sick the next day
he is passing off his show as real-life survival situations
in reality, he is really never in any danger
and the public never sees how many times
he attempts something risky " to get a good take "

**Sarge47** · 12-02-2007, 09:59 PM

I've recorded and watched every episode of M. vs. W.. Alls I can say is to survive like Mr. Grylls does is going to require a better physical condition than I have. I perceive this as a "Sur-reality" show!

**FVR** · 12-02-2007, 10:05 PM

I don't even watch him anymore. What in the he ll is he going to show me that I can't find out on my own? Honestly.

He and his show is glamorized entertainment, which I enjoyed until I found out that he is nothing but a b'ser.

I always wondered how he could spend time in certain climates, the same climates that myself and many others have spent more time in, and not have the same problems we had. His little busted indicated why, he's a fraud.

I don't give a crap what he's done, because if he b'sd his way through his show, then how do I know he did not bs his way through other things he claims.

That's just my buck two fifty.

**MCBushbaby** · 12-03-2007, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by FVR

I don't give a crap what he's done, because if he b'sd his way through his show, then how do I know he did not bs his way through other things he claims.

Maybe that "dung pile" was a sponge painted to look like crap. "by crickey I'm gonna drink water from this dung heap... watch me go... mmmm, tastes like apple juice, er, i mean water... that's right, dung water, nasty brown dung water... not like apple juice that's been soaked into a sponge." lol

**Rick** · 12-03-2007, 07:43 AM

Since these guys use locals to help with the survival skills I sort of picture three locals playing one of the worst practical jokes of all time. Then, sitting around the television, there is this huge collective Oooooohhhhhhh when Bear actually drinks from the elephant poo. High fives around. "I can't believe he really did it." "Dude, you are sooooo bad for tellin' him to do that," sort of comments.

**Borelli** · 12-03-2007, 03:39 PM

great answer Mitch..... The most important part of those show is the educational value that we can use to benifit ourselve's.

**Rick** · 12-03-2007, 04:25 PM

(fake British accent) I've been up for 36 straight hours facing some of the most dangerous internet search engines you can possibly imagine. I was forced to drink diet colas to avoid dehydration and to consume beer nuts AND pretzels. But it was worth it to uncover the most realistic Bear Grylls show to date. I hope you appreciate the sacrifices I've made.

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2880099

**owl_girl** · 12-03-2007, 05:03 PM

That’s hilarious, love it

**Borelli** · 12-03-2007, 05:27 PM

well all i havee to sa is that if we combine what our own knowledge offers us then yes there are things that Bear does that i dont think would be all that smart but he does offer a useful skill every once in awile. Such as the new Sahara episode...he shows that by digging down into the sandthat is in shade you find much cooler sand underneath, for many of us that is a no brainer but it still serves as a reminder

Apply your knowledge to things you know nothing about and you will learn to unnderstand an item better and faster than someone whom does not know how to apply what they know to every day situations

Dom Borelli

**Nativedude** · 12-04-2007, 10:57 AM

SURVIVORMAN ALL THE WAY!!

Bear is a FAKE!. . .FAKE!!. . .FAKE!!!

**Rick** · 12-04-2007, 11:08 AM

This one is for you Nativedude:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYExF4RRqE

This one is for everyone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpSlpvb1is

**Beo** · 12-04-2007, 12:26 PM

I see at purely entertainment value, I mean come on now... squeezing brown waste water outta elephant poop I'd find other water sources like where the animals are drinking, although he makes quite a good living at it and I'll bet he has some real fun not to mention getting to travel.

**Beo** · 12-04-2007, 01:31 PM

I just saw the video where bear catches a rabbit in a snare and after ringing its neck he says to give it karate chop on the neck the make sure its dead! Is he serious?

**Two Rivers** · 12-05-2007, 11:29 AM

My dad once told me " you can learn something from anybody". I find both shows to be full of great information. Not real sure of survivormans background, but he seems to be someone who has spent some time enjoying life growing up in the woods as opposed to being trained in survival skills.
Bear never seems to be as fatigued or hungery at the end of his show as Les, but then he has a camera man to do the filming and whos to say .... a scout out in front, and a mule skinner leading the Borax Mule Train behind him. Sometimes its like watching an episode of fear factor. Would be interesting to see a behind the scenes show from both of them. I enjoy both show. Lots of good info. Its always good to refresh the knowledge.

**Sarge47** · 12-05-2007, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Two Rivers

My dad once told me " you can learn something from anybody". I find both shows to be full of great information. Not real sure of survivormans background, but he seems to be someone who has spent some time enjoying life growing up in the woods as opposed to being trained in survival skills.
Bear never seems to be as fatigued or hungery at the end of his show as Les, but then he has a camera man to do the filming and whos to say .... a scout out in front, and a mule skinner leading the Borax Mule Train behind him. Sometimes its like watching an episode of fear factor. Would be interesting to see a behind the scenes show from both of them. I enjoy both show. Lots of good info. Its always good to refresh the knowledge.

Les DID do a "behind the scenes" show, and it was great!

**Beo** · 12-05-2007, 01:21 PM

I'll take Less and Survivorman, not only is he on his own after being dropped off, he has to do all the filming, and sometimes he has to be pulled out. I use the shows for entertainment value. But Les seems more real to me, plus he's got a simple man's comic style as I think he's funny in his comments, thinks of things the way I might such as after eating one small bug lays down and says "now that was filling."
And Bear is so fake its sickening.

**Rick** · 12-05-2007, 01:40 PM

Okay, check this out. In the November issue.

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Bear comes clean on the fake stuff. Yep, on occasion, things were staged. No apologies. No faux paw. They cram a lot of stuff into a show. Going forward, they'll make sure viewers are aware of exactly what's what so everyone can rest easily at night. More behind the scenes stuff, too. I think they are doing it just for you Two Rivers.

Read it for yourself. Here is the link. It's a big file (8.48 Mb) in .pdf format. His confession is on the last page.

http://www.beargrylls.com/media/bear...demagazine.pdf

By the way, his first name is Edward. Blyme, who knew?!

**HERBz** · 12-05-2007, 02:09 PM

I have to say ray mears is my fave but might only be in the UK

www.raymears.com

P.S. i've actually met him on one of his survival courses I nearly met bear grylls too.

**HERBz** · 12-07-2007, 11:41 AM

There's lots of videos of him on youtube.

**Gray Wolf** · 12-07-2007, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Beowulf65

I just saw the video where bear catches a rabbit in a snare and after ringing its neck he says to give it karate chop on the neck the make sure its dead! Is he serious?

He even says he couldn't catch one with his snares, that the film crew gave it to him.

My concern is the same as Ricks: "I guess the main concern is we have some newbies on the forum and the shows portray some dubious things that those just learning may interpret as okay to perform. This thread outlines a number of things that have been done on some of the shows that none (or few) of us would ever attempt in the wild."