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    Quote Originally Posted by hope View Post
    SO, does every firearm you own have night sights or just your Duty weapon, and off duty weapon. Do all your rifle and all your shotguns have night sights....????
    My duty weapon has them, my primary off-duty weapon has them. If I could afford to put them on every other gun I use, I would do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtdraino View Post
    My duty weapon has them, my primary off-duty weapon has them. If I could afford to put them on every other gun I use, I would do so.

    And so Sgt. This is one more thing we agree on. One of the assets of Night Sights is finding your firearm in the dark, when you are awoken from a deep sleep. If something is going BUMP in the night you don't want to be feeling in the dark for your weapon, with Night sights when your eyes open they go straight to the green glow.
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    Don't need them. If I can see and identify I can hit it. Learn to point shoot well, even in good light you just need the front sight at the most. Good ole Murphy will find a way to
    screw them up anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hope View Post
    And so Sgt. This is one more thing we agree on. One of the assets of Night Sights is finding your firearm in the dark, when you are awoken from a deep sleep. If something is going BUMP in the night you don't want to be feeling in the dark for your weapon, with Night sights when your eyes open they go straight to the green glow.
    Still don't need them. I know exactly where my bedside firearm is and don't need
    to fumble, been in the same spot and position on the nightstand for years. If you aren't awake enough to have a firearm in your hand you don't need it. Or get a little Teddy Bear nitelite. Hope I think you've been around long enough, like me to lay your hand on a firearm without a a lighted arrow pointing to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot View Post
    Still don't need them. I know exactly where my bedside firearm is and don't need
    to fumble, been in the same spot and position on the nightstand for years. If you aren't awake enough to have a firearm in your hand you don't need it. Or get a little Teddy Bear nitelite. Hope I think you've been around long enough, like me to lay your hand on a firearm without a a lighted arrow pointing to it.

    Finding the handgun, quickly when living in a tent, with a client, and things are constantly getting moved for cooking or sleeping, etc. or if you sleep in a camper one night, at a friends house the next, in your own bed the next night, then overnight under your truck in a sleeping bag the next. The night sights act like a "Night LIGHT" in a tent environment, and are handy when big brown fuzzy things start tearing up camp.

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    I can see the value of them for the situations that you describe.
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    Yes, They are worth it. I don't own a combat pistol without them. My combat shotguns and AR's have them too. Some "Experts" say, "If you can't see your sights , you can't identify your threat either and you have no business shooting". BULLSH*T!! These guys have obviously never had low light training nor have they ever been in a low light, life and death situation. These clowns are just reciting what they have read in a trash mag or forum with no real life experience to back up their dribble. I can recall years ago without night sights as a rookie cop that MANY times I could not see my sights well enough for accurate shooting but could definately identify the threat. Not many people can accurately point shoot a target 15 to 50 yards out. After shooting in low light your vision will be temporarily impaired but the night sights help you aquire your sight picture that much faster for a second follow up shot. Night sights are an advantage and do not believe otherwise! I just don't get it when some cheap a$$ buys a $900.00 Sig or some uber cool $1700.00 1911 clone and won't spend the extra $85.00 on night sights because "They are expensive". BOTTOM LINE = YES, THEY ARE WORTH EVERY PENNY!!
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    I'd still think laser sights would work better. Wouldn't it be easier and faster to just line up the beam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    I'd still think laser sights would work better. Wouldn't it be easier and faster to just line up the beam?
    They can be an advantage also but Night Sight's batteries don't burn out when you need them most. They should supplement night sights and not replace them. You still need a good flshlight for any low light encounter and it should accompany your night sights and / or lazer sight. FWIT I'm not a huge lazer fan anyway due to them being delicate and battery hungry. Best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockcop View Post
    They can be an advantage also but Night Sight's batteries don't burn out when you need them most. They should supplement night sights and not replace them. You still need a good flshlight for any low light encounter and it should accompany your night sights and / or lazer sight. FWIT I'm not a huge lazer fan anyway due to them being delicate and battery hungry. Best.
    Good advice. Thanks!
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    "I just don't get it when some cheap a$$ buys a $900.00 Sig or some uber cool $1700.00 1911 clone and won't spend the extra $85.00 on night sights because "They are expensive".

    I feel the same way about tactical flashlights. Take a good look at your wife or teenage son and ask if it would be worth seeing them before shooting.

    You make a good point about being able to ID the threat but still not be able to see your own sights. Low light conditions are highly variable. Mac
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    Glockcop, it is OK to say how you really feel, there is no need too sugarcoat it, or put a () on it.......

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    Yep Hope I see your point. As to point shooting I've only been doing it for about 55yrs so I guess I am wrong as usual. Us old hillbillies aren't known for being very good with a gun. Guess that's why I had a BB gun in the mid 60s and was expected to hit another BB in the air. Yep, I can't drive a nail at 20yds but I walk up and use a rock. Human targets are much larger anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot View Post
    Yep Hope I see your point. As to point shooting I've only been doing it for about 55yrs so I guess I am wrong as usual. Us old hillbillies aren't known for being very good with a gun. Guess that's why I had a BB gun in the mid 60s and was expected to hit another BB in the air. Yep, I can't drive a nail at 20yds but I walk up and use a rock. Human targets are much larger anyway.
    Ole Coot, I got your point clearly, and agree with you. When I am night after night in my cabin, my Sig Sauer P-556 is right next to the bed, with the G2 light beside it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac
    I feel the same way about tactical flashlights. Take a good look at your wife or teenage son and ask if it would be worth seeing them before shooting.
    I have to disagree on this one. I would never pay high dollar for a tactical flashlight when a $15 mag light will work just as well and is just as dependable. That also assumes your home is pitch black, which mine isn't and I would think most aren't. Especially if you are in an urban-ish setting. Off grid, it probably is.

    There are very few places in my home that I would not be able to readily recognize friend or foe even at night. But then, I wouldn't go looking for them, either. I'd wait for them to come to me. Add to the fact that it's just me and my wife so if she's in bed beside me then whoever is out "there" is probably in trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Add to the fact that it's just me and my wife so if she's in bed beside me then whoever is out "there" is probably in trouble.
    Okay, I'll ring the doorbell or knock next time............
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    Surprisingly enough, there are some strong opinions both ways on this subject (like most other subjects). I can see some of what Glockcop says as being accurate, however have to disagree some what with “Night sights are an advantage and do not believe otherwise!”. If a person has decided to dedicate the time to practice, they will enjoy the advantage. However the majority, for various reasons lean too heavily on technology and do not follow through with practice. I for one have over 30 plus years relied on point shooting , one closed eye (to retain night vision)with a great deal of success. Having said that , it is because I chose this method, practiced it and used it in hostile environments with success (evidenced by the fact that I retain a relatively imperforated carcass). My conclusion is, pick a method, practice it and stick with it, is much less confusing. If you go with technology, get the best you can afford.
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    The fact of the matter is that point shooting is for up close. If we did not need to see our sights they wouldn't be there...We would all be point shooting at 25 yards and missing. I don't care how good you are point shooting, you're gonna hit better using you sights when you can see them. How can anyone say that seeing your sights is not an advantage. To each his own but I'll be hitting what I'm shoot at in low light , near or far. Point Shooting a.k.a. "Instict Shooting" is a real thing and can be useful.... but it works much better in black and white LONE RANGER shows though. After training more rookies than I can ever think about remembering I KNOW what works for most people. As far as people relying too much on technology I have to agree with that but I'm not about to start carrying a black powder pistol and using a flint knife. I'll be the first guy to pick up a revolver (outdated technology by some opinions) over a Glock but that wheel gun will have night sights on it. Some things are just better now than they ever were and night sight are one of those things. Spend the extra $85.00 and then anyone in your family can use your weapon if need be and not have to be a point shooting expert. Best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockcop View Post
    The fact of the matter is that point shooting is for up close. If we did not need to see our sights they wouldn't be there...We would all be point shooting at 25 yards and missing. I don't care how good you are point shooting, you're gonna hit better using you sights when you can see them. How can anyone say that seeing your sights is not an advantage. To each his own but I'll be hitting what I'm shoot at in low light , near or far. Point Shooting a.k.a. "Instict Shooting" is a real thing and can be useful.... but it works much better in black and white LONE RANGER shows though. After training more rookies than I can ever think about remembering I KNOW what works for most people. Spend the extra $85.00 and then anyone in your family can use your weapon if need be.
    And close up it is, never had a need in the dark over 15-20yards. In building clearing, most has been almost "contact" close, others across a room.It is all muscle memory. As I said ,it is not for everyone, it is a method I chose and works. As an instructor and leader, preparing people for MOUT work over seas, this is what I taught and it worked. Using sights obviously is an advantage, just not in the application we are discussing. As I see it a torso hit is all I want, not looking for MOA groups. My point is choose what works for you. I feel no need to spend money on an accessory. I never actually used the "lone Ranger flicks as training aids, but they are amusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    I'd still think laser sights would work better. Wouldn't it be easier and faster to just line up the beam?
    Laser sights work great, as long as you aren't concerned with giving up your position. Sure, night sights can give you away too, but not nearly as obviously. If that isn't a concern, then a laser emitter is very handy. I have one on my duty weapon.

    Of course a laser runs on batteries, is a more complicated device, and is going to have a more finite lifespan than nightsights.
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