Now all we have to do is get my attack beagle out of the li9ving room ceiling fan.... putting weapons away.....augh the dog had an accident!
Now all we have to do is get my attack beagle out of the li9ving room ceiling fan.... putting weapons away.....augh the dog had an accident!
Keep in mind the problem may be extremely complicated, though the "Fix" is often simple...
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Originally Posted by snaplink
Your ears will perk up (Rick), and you won't need to shoot (snaplink..) you`ll already be on the ground because the ARMED intruder with a round in the chamber SHOT YOU as you were trying to SCARE HIM with a sound.
I suggest doing research on the whole sound thing that people think is oh-so scary, and then do some research on home invasions and who the primary intruder is... Hint: one that doesn't know or doesn't care or doesn't give a crap about the "sound", bang your dead all the time while loading your "protection". (Druggies)
I strongly suggest a shotgun for protection... however, you sure as hell won't find me w/out a round in the chamber and 7 more to go in the tube. If I only need one or two, AWESOME! If I need 5 more, well they are there w/out having to fumble with shells in the dark.
That's my opinion, and I have nothing against you guys
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yea never give your opponent the chance to live. make soup out of his or her chest.
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Winchester Defender with half a dozen or more loaded, chamber empty, safety off. Just rack and take the wall down to get a clear shot.
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12ga with 00 buck.
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You read me wrong, MM. My post was tongue in cheek. I don't use a shotgun for HD. My HD weapon is loaded with one in the chamber and several behind it.
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AHHH! Well then,
There is nothing wrong with a 12 ga double for defense, backed up with a handgun even better.
In Brazil for a long time Rossi marketed a full stocked 13 inch 12 ga double with a vertical front pistol grip. This was intended as a home defense weapon. Our local rolling SWAT team keeps one in the truck and they say it is far more intimidating to the local thugs than even the the submachineguns they also carry.
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I would love to have one of these in Brazil but acquiring one legally now is very difficult. I could buy a 16 ga double with little difficulty but a 12 is another level of legal hassle. Mac
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12 gauge Rem 870
I have an 870 with an extension on the magazine. I carry a 7 shot Taurus .357 as a back-up gun.
That's not mine, it's owned by a friend in Brazil. Shotguns above 16 ga are strictly controlled. A 16 ga double is not that hard to acquire but they don't sell 16 ga pumps in Brazil.
In Brazil I only own two .38 handguns, a 5 shot blued J-frame and a 6 shot three inch stainless. I would love to have a shotgun to defend the old homestead. Mac
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Rem 870 12g. 18" Improved cyl bore / six shot extended tube with number 6 lead for inside a dwelling. Pattern will be plenty tight within room distance and you won't over penetrate the perp. or your walls. Back it up with a Glock 9, 40 , or 45. The .357 mag and .357 Sig are VERY loud indoors. Even more than the 12g. Best.
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Mossberg 930 spx,#4 birdshot,buckshot goes through the sheet rock too easy.Could injure inocent people in another room.
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Solid core doors with reinforced frames and hardened case screws at least 3 inches long. Pin hinges added for additional strength. If you stop them at the door, the rest is academic.
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That's very true. In Brazil my house/fort has layered security.
By law we have to have a wall around the property.
Our wall is topped by electric fence, normal for our neighborhood.
Two pit bulls roam free in the yard, also normal, flanked by a goat, quite odd.
We have bars on our windows, "Screens for primates".
The house has an alarm system, as does the electric fence.
We have a solid wood security door at the top of the stairs. If someone gets in at night they won't be able to get at the family easily.
Anyone trying to breach that door better come with explosives and a stack of armored ninjas backing them up. Mac
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Folks might be interested in how often a firearm is used in a crime versus some other weapon or no weapon at all. For Robbery, no weapon is used almost as often as a firearm. For Aggravated Assault, Hands and Feet and Knives are used nearly as often as a firearm.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_15.html
The overwhelming majority of burglaries involve "Unlawful Entry", which means the bad guy entered through an unlocked door or window. Locks don't work if you don't use them.
It's probably no surprise that the majority of home burglaries occur during the day when most folks are gone and businesses occur at night when most are closed.
If you understand how most criminals operate, what they use and when they work, you stand a better chance of protecting yourself and your family. Most folks believe that night time is the most dangerous time but statistics show that residential daytime burglaries can go really bad when the criminal walks in while you are there.
Take some time and read through the FBI's stats. They publish them every year.
The link is above.
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Prepared enough.
So?
Poor self defense weapon if you ask me.
yeah, that's more of an offense weapon.
that pistol is kind of offensive to the eye for that matter...
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Ok... sooo.. i should take down my tresspassing signs ?I just use several claymore mines strategically placed near doors and windows. If that doesn't work then I have a flamethrower and bazooka to take down even the most harden criminals. But all the signs in the yard saying "sniper on duty" and "all tresspassers will be shot, all survivors will be shot again" usually deter everyone....even the UPS man. Still waiting on that package.....
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