Urban warfare tactics

**Alpine_Sapper** · 04-30-2009, 03:31 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/graphics/new...mbat/flash.htm

Thought this was pretty cool. While it only covers the one building it gives those who've never had any type of training a very general idea.

**trax** · 04-30-2009, 04:05 PM

that's cool A_S, I'm going to go back through it again when I can spend more time with it.

**Pal334** · 04-30-2009, 04:37 PM

It is interesting. I agree it is a decent introduction to the intricacies of this type of evolution. Hopefully all will take away the fact that "training, training, training" then practice, practice and then a little more practice is needed. It took us 2-3 weeks each time before deployment to get even comfortable with it. And then of course the first real time use,, well it was scary, some one forgot to tell the bad guys their roles and positions

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**trax** · 04-30-2009, 05:27 PM

PAL, your post reminds me of that old saying "plans all change as soon as the first shot is fired"

**Rick** · 04-30-2009, 06:46 PM

and, "The enemy never follows the plan."

**Pal334** · 04-30-2009, 07:11 PM

you are both right, the rotten $%^&*() don't play fair. Sooooo we adopted an old training creed "If ya ain't cheating, you ain't trying" . So the good part was we all came home. And happily , I can not say the same for them

**Alpine_Sapper** · 04-30-2009, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Pal334

you are both right, the rotten $%^&*() don't play fair.

lol.

stack,rock, #*&^@% there's a #(*&$#% stairwell.

Glad you all made it back in one piece.

**Rick** · 04-30-2009, 08:15 PM

Why couldn't you just knock on the front door and say, "***** Winesses". Then when they come out to throw you off the property (cause that's what every does when they knock on the door, right?) just shoot 'em? Why blow up all those perfectly good walls and take a chance on breaking a nail or something?

**Pal334** · 04-30-2009, 08:26 PM

Rick, and to think the miltary services world wide have been pondering this problem with various results for years with all of the possible variants!!!! Perhaps, (with your permission of course), we of the forum can refine your idea and offer it to the US Military as the "Witness Gambit" !!!!! Aaah,, brain storming (or fa**ing) at its best

**Howard Brittain** · 04-30-2009, 08:46 PM

Gentlemen, (and Ladies if present)-

i only want to make you aware of a very simple scenario. If you are caught behind enemy lines, (which for the purposes of Martial Law, means the ENTIRE CITY)- ergo, what is discussed here, better be for after you've LEFT, if you must. On your way OUT, because you risk NBC collateral effects in urban environ.

If you can get-out, you get out. Urban environ is long-term death sentence.

**Sarge47** · 04-30-2009, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Howard Brittain

Gentlemen, (and Ladies if present)-

i only want to make you aware of a very simple scenario. If you are caught behind enemy lines, (which for the purposes of Martial Law, means the ENTIRE CITY)- ergo, what is discussed here, better be for after you've LEFT, if you must. On your way OUT, because you risk NBC collateral effects in urban environ.

If you can get-out, you get out. Urban environ is long-term death sentence.

Such wisdom coming from someone who's mythical!

**Rick** · 04-30-2009, 10:05 PM

Did you conjure that up yourself? Try posting some supporting documentation from a RELIABLE source rather than just blow babble speak. I'm urban and I'll stay urban and survival a h**l of a lot better. I'm the enemy line you fear! I am the one that declares marshal law and my troops are the ones that enforce it.

Thanks for posting, and have a nice day.

**Rick** · 04-30-2009, 10:07 PM

Pal - You can use it if you wish. I have plenty more where that came from. You could also park out front in a low rider with the music blaring. Then when they come out to tell you to turn it down. Pop.

See? It's sooooooo easy.

**Ken** · 05-01-2009, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by Howard Brittain

Gentlemen, (and Ladies if present)-

i only want to make you aware of a very simple scenario. If you are caught behind enemy lines, (which for the purposes of Martial Law, means the ENTIRE CITY)- ergo, what is discussed here, better be for after you've LEFT, if you must. On your way OUT, because you risk NBC collateral effects in urban environ.

If you can get-out, you get out. Urban environ is long-term death sentence.

Howard, how much training have you had in this field? I mean REAL TRAINING, not that crap you read in the whacky forums you probably frequent online, or the training you get from playing video games. I mean, REAL TRAINING?

I've had quite a bit, and I was a trainer myself. Still, I'll bet that some folks here on the Forum have probably forgotten more than I ever learned.

So, being a newbie and all, tell us a little more about yourself than the fact that you claim to be a mystic from the "Wall of God." Okay?

Tell us where you learned what you are trying to teach us. None of us want to believe that you're just some whacko who only posts nonsense to see what kind of a response you'll get from us.

Help us BELIEVE. Please, Howard, help us.............

**Alpine_Sapper** · 05-01-2009, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Howard Brittain

Gentlemen, (and Ladies if present)-

i only want to make you aware of a very simple scenario. If you are caught behind enemy lines, (which for the purposes of Martial Law, means the ENTIRE CITY)- ergo, what is discussed here, better be for after you've LEFT, if you must. On your way OUT, because you risk NBC collateral effects in urban environ.

If you can get-out, you get out. Urban environ is long-term death sentence.

Let's you and I go have a little paintball marker MOUT training, kay pumpkin? I can run you through a "simple scenario". We can even cover all three ranges of combat.

**Rick** · 05-01-2009, 01:04 PM

Yeah, right. You try keeping your chest out when you're built like this.

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**Alpine_Sapper** · 05-01-2009, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by remy

Chest out.
Jaw clinched.
Blood flowing.
Muscles ready.

Ah...the joys of being a primate...

lol. Nah, just having a little fun with the FNG is all. Doesn't look like he took the bait.

**Yuma Kutsuu** · 05-04-2009, 10:13 AM

I am gone for a week and we are being swarmed by a messenger of god... I don't even know what to say. I think I want to laugh really hard... would that be disrespectful?

**crashdive123** · 05-04-2009, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Yuma Kutsuu

I am gone for a week and we are being swarmed by a messenger of god... I don't even know what to say. I think I want to laugh really hard... would that be disrespectful?

He decided that he couldn't stay.