when is it time to bug out,what sign

[jessielavon]

I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on what signs y'all are watching for and when you think it will be time to bug out befor it is 2 late?
please email me y'alls thoughts to ***Use her forum email address***

[Rick]

Jessie - I removed your email address from the above post for several reasons.

1. Every web crawler on the internet will capture it (if they haven't already) and your spam will definitely increase.

2. Anyone can view the forum and if they see your email address then they have access to you. Otherwise, only forum members can contact you. While some of us are a bit quirky, I don't think any of us would spam you.

3. You email address is already in your profile so any forum member wanting to contact you via email can do it.

If you want your email address in your post then by all means plug it back in. I just thought it a bit safer for you if it wasn't posted for the world at large.

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on what signs y'all are watching for and when you think it will be time to bug out befor it is 2 late?
please email me y'alls thoughts to ***Use her forum email address***

some people think that there should be a government tax on auto insurance policies, just like the tobacco tax to help pay for prosicuting drunks and speeders.(What do the fines pay for?) bug out yesterday, if you wait youve waited too long.

[Rick]

About the only thing that is going to move me is some proclamation that I need to scoot. A chemical cloud, a nuclear power plant accident, a Wiggles performance in my neighborhood. All pretty remote stuff.

What type of event are you concerned about?

Erun - Sorry. I don't get that at all. Are you suggestion we need to bug out now just in case?

[Ultimate Survivor]

bug out when everything else fails ,, personally i off grid at every oppertuneity, also being more self reliant, own water , electric, food etc,

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

About the only thing that is going to move me is some proclamation that I need to scoot. A chemical cloud, a nuclear power plant accident, a Wiggles performance in my neighborhood. All pretty remote stuff.

What type of event are you concerned about?

Erun - Sorry. I don't get that at all. Are you suggestion we need to bug out now just in case?

weve lost valueble time wondering "when", instead of why. engeneered poverty, a virtue of big buisness, is fully supported by our government. a poor nation works hard for hours just get to a hamburger. a poverty society dependant on a crooked, greedy government, is too late too bug out. theyve got us by the monkey.

[crashdive123]

Jessie - what do you envision causing you to have to bug out?

[jessielavon]

thanks darling

Jessie - I removed your email address from the above post for several reasons.

1. Every web crawler on the internet will capture it (if they haven't already) and your spam will definitely increase.

2. Anyone can view the forum and if they see your email address then they have access to you. Otherwise, only forum members can contact you. While some of us are a bit quirky, I don't think any of us would spam you.

3. You email address is already in your profile so any forum member wanting to contact you via email can do it.

If you want your email address in your post then by all means plug it back in. I just thought it a bit safer for you if it wasn't posted for the world at large.

[jessielavon]

We have horses and live in the backwoods so its not like we have to try and get out of the city,but we would have to track in several miles to where we have everything chashed hidden,just wont others thoughts. thanks darlings

[crashdive123]

Sounds like you are already in what most would consider a bug out location. I'll ask again, what situations or circumstances do you envision causing you to have to leave? I only ask so as to be able to give you a meaningful answer.

[jessielavon]

I grew up on a cotton farm and spent my childhood hunting,fishing and just being a country girl.After my son who was a Marine came home wounded I was ready then but we are waiting for the baby to get here ,wi

Jessie - what do you envision causing you to have to bug out?

[crashdive123]

I guess I just don't understand (don't worry, that happens a lot). Are you concerned about a weather related situation, wild fires, something else? You asked in your original post what signs we are looking for - I'm just trying to figure out what it is that you feel may cause you to have to bug out.

[wareagle69]

first off jessie welcome
a little about me the great wareagle
after many years of living in the states(south mostly)i moved back to canada to purchace my bug out property, we live far enough out of town but i could go further, but i still need to make a living, what i am in the processs of doing is establishing camps out in the bush that are far off the quad trails but still able to get to by horseback, now reasons to bug out vary, depends on your criteria and situation for some the poo has already been flung, for me i bugged out years ago but still maintain my presence in civilization, but will be ready to unplug at a moments notice

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

those unknown things that i cant predict is what bugs me out. how does someone plan to react affirmatively to an unknown occurance of an unknown nature. i have a friend in NC that had an elaborate survival equipment set up, well a four day caused a mud slide and flood.every thing he owned ended up down the river. they found his house three miles away in the Nantahala water shed. so much for his "Ability to bug out".

[Rick]

I'll offer you a bit of knowledge from the world of disaster recovery and business continuity. I know you hate the big companies but that's where I came from and they do offer a lot of knowledge that can be used in wilderness survival.

Things you plan for:

Known Knowns: These are things that you are pretty certain will happen or have knowledge that there is a high probability of occurrence. Things like severe thunderstorms, home fires, winter time blizzards, loss of electrical power. We know those things are likely to occur so we plan for them. We have BOBs in place, emergency power in place, water, food, etc.

Known Unknowns: These are things that we have to plan for, may well happen, but we can't define them to any certain level. An example would be severe weather in general. We know several weather will eventually impact us but we don't know what type of severe weather it will be. We have spare blankets, propane heaters, plastic tarps to cover the roof if it's damaged, etc. We have some general planning in place but not at a specific level.

Unknown Unknowns: These are things that could very well happen but we don't know what they are. In other words, things outside the realm that we have planned for like some one driving through your front window, a piece from an airplane coming through the roof. Your long term, general planning tries to encompass unknown unknowns to your best ability but they are, by nature, not something we can plan for.

One of the questions you must repeatedly ask yourself is "What can go wrong?". You have all your plans complete, you have everything in place now you need to critically evaluate what might have been overlooked.

In your friend's example, he was obviously in a high risk area for mud slides and failed to include that in his preparations. That should have been a Known Known for him. He could have looked at the hills around his house and made an intelligent guess that a mud slide might occur. Nothing against him. We might have made the same mistake but those are the kind of things you have to look at. He should have had most of his gear in a safer location.

I know there are folks on here that have supplies stored in their basement. Does your sump pump have a battery backup in case of power failure? How bad would it be if you came home to find your supplies and your basement full of water because the power had been out all day and it had been raining? That's the kind of critical thinking you HAVE to do.

There is an old saying in the DR/BR business, "No one plans to fail, they just fail to plan." It's a very true statement.

[wareagle69]

whos on first

[Rick]

Who's on second. What's on first.

[MatthewnOK]

thanks darling

You sound suspiciously like Eva Gabor. You don't live in Hooterville do you?

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

I'll offer you a bit of knowledge from the world of disaster recovery and business continuity. I know you hate the big companies but that's where I came from and they do offer a lot of knowledge that can be used in wilderness survival.

Things you plan for:

Known Knowns: These are things that you are pretty certain will happen or have knowledge that there is a high probability of occurrence. Things like severe thunderstorms, home fires, winter time blizzards, loss of electrical power. We know those things are likely to occur so we plan for them. We have BOBs in place, emergency power in place, water, food, etc.

Known Unknowns: These are things that we have to plan for, may well happen, but we can't define them to any certain level. An example would be severe weather in general. We know several weather will eventually impact us but we don't know what type of severe weather it will be. We have spare blankets, propane heaters, plastic tarps to cover the roof if it's damaged, etc. We have some general planning in place but not at a specific level.

Unknown Unknowns: These are things that could very well happen but we don't know what they are. In other words, things outside the realm that we have planned for like some one driving through your front window, a piece from an airplane coming through the roof. Your long term, general planning tries to encompass unknown unknowns to your best ability but they are, by nature, not something we can plan for.

One of the questions you must repeatedly ask yourself is "What can go wrong?". You have all your plans complete, you have everything in place now you need to critically evaluate what might have been overlooked.

In your friend's example, he was obviously in a high risk area for mud slides and failed to include that in his preparations. That should have been a Known Known for him. He could have looked at the hills around his house and made an intelligent guess that a mud slide might occur. Nothing against him. We might have made the same mistake but those are the kind of things you have to look at. He should have had most of his gear in a safer location.

I know there are folks on here that have supplies stored in their basement. Does your sump pump have a battery backup in case of power failure? How bad would it be if you came home to find your supplies and your basement full of water because the power had been out all day and it had been raining? That's the kind of critical thinking you HAVE to do.

There is an old saying in the DR/BR business, "No one plans to fail, they just fail to plan." It's a very true statement.

Thats all the same as saying that our government kept us safe when they attacked the twin towers, yea we planed for terrorist attack, but so much for our ability to bug out

[Rick]

I'm not certain how you got the twin towers out of your friend's mud slide but okay. Perhaps I mis-communicated something.