Navy Seal Snipers == Awesome

[Rick]

It's hard to make the many suffer over the actions of the few but I understand your feelings. I really like the convoy idea. That would work, no trouble. If you sink enough pirate vessels they'll soon run out of pirate vessels......and pirates.

[trax]

What angers me more is that a lot of these boats are transporting food aid for the people of east Africa. If this is the welcome we get perhaps we should stop sending aid.

The same thing has happened on the ground in Somali and other nations where aid has been sent for years. I'd rather see the pirates stopped than the aid stopped and there have been some pretty good suggestions here.

As far as that shooting, yep, I couldn't have made those shots, that is very impressive. I've declined shots at moose that were on land when I was in a boat because of the motion. Moose are a lot bigger target than a pirate's noggin. The guy blabbing about it "only being 25 yards" I'd suggest try it himself, maybe from 5 or 10 yards. It's a whole different world when your firearms is moving around when you're trying to sight in.

[Rick]

I've seen trick shooters and good shots and been around some really good talkers about bein' good shots. But those three impressed me more than anyone I've ever seen or heard about. If anyone had asked me if that could have been done I would have said no. Emphatically. Would have laid good money on the table to back it up. Yet THREE did it at the same time. Freakin' unbelievable. Go Navy!

[crashdive123]

What would you suggest?

[Pal334]

Three deaths.
Three fathers, sons and brothers.
Three more death...

And yet...all we can talk about is how amazing people can be at shooting...killing.
Not that i am surprised.

Eliminating vermin one step at a time. Have to admire their efficiency

[Rick]

I didn't use it in the context of killing another human. That was your assumption. What impressed me was the fact that anyone could be on a moving platform and hit a target on another moving platform. The fact that the targets were people is incidental to the skill and not something I had even thought about when I made my post. If I had, I would have said something like.

I think it's awesome that three Seals were able to take out three miserable, worthless, damnable, repugnant and malignant fathers, sons and brothers in one shot. Hey, that's how I feel but I wasn't thinking it when I made my post. Perhaps a Freudian moment, who knows. One pirate to another.

[crashdive123]

Crash...your question, if i understand you correctly, is aimed at me giving you a solution in rapport to the incident...in rapport to boats and pirates, to right and wrong.
I do not have the solution you are looking for...at least not a solution quick enough to satisfy you, or anyone else in the immediate future...for my solutions start at home, individual by individual...and the logistics and politics of the world are of no interest to me.

It's not a solution that I am looking for, but rather one that you seem to desire. Regardless of what we think of the plight of the Somali that are terrorizing the travelers and workers on the seas in their area, their what took place were the result of events that occured in their home, individual by individual.

[Ole WV Coot]

Three deaths.
Three fathers, sons and brothers.
Three more death...

And yet...all we can talk about is how amazing people can be at shooting...killing.
Not that i am surprised.

That's a statement I heard or one similar during the '60s. Usually by a grubby, foul group of people(for the lack of a better word) that cursed and spat upon anyone in uniform, "baby killers" was the one I heard most. These "fine" citizens are now our country's leaders because their dear ole dad kept them in college for a dozen years to avoid the draft. Same old story, let's keep these killers behind glass to be broken only when a dirty job has to be done. Elation is there if you are the one standing. No regrets, I am proud of those SEALS and you are always entitled to your own opinion.

[Ken]

We can theorize, justify, assign guilt and/or blame, and seek to determine root causes for every act of violence which has ever taken place in the world.

Nonetheless, if someone were to mug my mother or rape my daughter, I wouldn't give a damn about why they did what they did. Quite simply, I would want that person dead. Period. End of discussion.

We can discuss the socio-economic plight of Somalia and even delve into discussions of how the lack of lighted playgrounds may have contributed to the rise of piracy in the region. Maybe the pirates were not breast fed long enough by their mothers, maybe their lack of affordable cable television service plays a role ..........

Here's the skinny (double entranda) on the pirates: They live in a back-a$$ "country" of warring factions. We didn't create that scenario and are NOT responsible for their condition. We don't plunder, and have never plundered, a damn thing from Somalia. Even if we were inclined to do so, which we are not, they have nothing of value to take because they themselves have destroyed everything of value that they once had. My brother was there with the 10th. Mountain Division in '93 - he told me all about the Somali's widespread habit of tearing out electric services and water pipes in order the sell the copper.

Our first attempt to aid in the rebuilding of their society and economy was met with wholesale hatred and violence by the general population. They don't want us there. Still, we seek to help by delivering humanitarian aid.........

Pirates? Nothing more than criminals looking for easy prey. They have no legitimate grievances against humanitarian missions or against civilians traveling on ships in 300 miles from their coast in international waters – civilians who have no connection to Somalia whatsoever.

Pirates? They use weapons, capture ships, deprive people of their liberty, place people at risk of death, and cause the death of innocents – all in furtherance of their singular objective of extorting ransom from any nation or company that happens to fall prey to them. Any “justification” they give for their acts is pure bullsh*t. They are criminals engaged in a very high stakes criminal enterprise, nothing more.

They understand two things only: money and violence. I would not pay them one thin dime of tribute. Instead, I would respond to their actions with overwhelming violence in order to eliminate their existence and discourage any re-emergence of their actions in the future.

Remy, you own guns, right? Didn’t you recently buy one for your wife? Clearly, you recognize a need for violence when necessary. Guess what? It’s VERY necessary when dealing with pirates.

Do I relish reading about how the three pirates in question were killed? Yes, I do. No apologies – sorry. Just a big sh*t-eatin’ grin on my face whenever I think about it.

By the way - I taught maritime law at the Massachusetts Maritime Academy. Both the skipper and his first mate are from my area - Murphy lives 10 miles from me. I'm just glad they're both coming home. The pirates? I'm just glad they're dead.

[trax]

So, uhhh, Ken, let me see if I got this straight...you are against the pirates. Should we start another one of those annoying little polls you guys are always throwing out there? Anyone feel the need?

[Ken]

So, uhhh, Ken, let me see if I got this straight...you are against the pirates.

Yeah, Trax, I am. Boy, am I glad I made my feelings clear........

[Pal334]

Trax, if a poll is started, perhaps Ken and I can vote undecided?

[trax]

Well from a personal point of view this is all very enlightening gentlemen. I just now crossed pirate off of my potential future careers list. Arrrrghh!!

[Alpine_Sapper]

We can theorize, justify, assign guilt and/or blame, and seek to determine root causes for every act of violence which has ever taken place in the world.

Nonetheless, if someone were to mug my mother or rape my daughter, I wouldn't give a damn about why they did what they did. Quite simply, I would want that person dead. Period. End of discussion.

We can discuss the socio-economic plight of Somalia and even delve into discussions of how the lack of lighted playgrounds may have contributed to the rise of piracy in the region. Maybe the pirates were not breast fed long enough by their mothers, maybe their lack of affordable cable television service plays a role ..........

Here's the skinny (double entranda) on the pirates: They live in a back-a$$ "country" of warring factions. We didn't create that scenario and are NOT responsible for their condition. We don't plunder, and have never plundered, a damn thing from Somalia. Even if we were inclined to do so, which we are not, they have nothing of value to take because they themselves have destroyed everything of value that they once had. My brother was there with the 10th. Mountain Division in '93 - he told me all about the Somali's widespread habit of tearing out electric services and water pipes in order the sell the copper.

Our first attempt to aid in the rebuilding of their society and economy was met with wholesale hatred and violence by the general population. They don't want us there. Still, we seek to help by delivering humanitarian aid.........

Pirates? Nothing more than criminals looking for easy prey. They have no legitimate grievances against humanitarian missions or against civilians traveling on ships in 300 miles from their coast in international waters – civilians who have no connection to Somalia whatsoever.

Pirates? They use weapons, capture ships, deprive people of their liberty, place people at risk of death, and cause the death of innocents – all in furtherance of their singular objective of extorting ransom from any nation or company that happens to fall prey to them. Any “justification” they give for their acts is pure bullsh*t. They are criminals engaged in a very high stakes criminal enterprise, nothing more.

They understand two things only: money and violence. I would not pay them one thin dime of tribute. Instead, I would respond to their actions with overwhelming violence in order to eliminate their existence and discourage any re-emergence of their actions in the future.

Remy, you own guns, right? Didn’t you recently buy one for your wife? Clearly, you recognize a need for violence when necessary. Guess what? It’s VERY necessary when dealing with pirates.

Do I relish reading about how the three pirates in question were killed? Yes, I do. No apologies – sorry. Just a big sh*t-eatin’ grin on my face whenever I think about it.

By the way - I taught maritime law at the Massachusetts Maritime Academy. Both the skipper and his first mate are from my area - Murphy lives 10 miles from me. I'm just glad they're both coming home. The pirates? I'm just glad they're dead.

[Chris]

We can theorize, justify, assign guilt and/or blame, and seek to determine root causes for every act of violence which has ever taken place in the world.

Nonetheless, if someone were to mug my mother or rape my daughter, I wouldn't give a damn about why they did what they did. Quite simply, I would want that person dead. Period. End of discussion.

We can discuss the socio-economic plight of Somalia and even delve into discussions of how the lack of lighted playgrounds may have contributed to the rise of piracy in the region. Maybe the pirates were not breast fed long enough by their mothers, maybe their lack of affordable cable television service plays a role ..........

Here's the skinny (double entranda) on the pirates: They live in a back-a$$ "country" of warring factions. We didn't create that scenario and are NOT responsible for their condition. We don't plunder, and have never plundered, a damn thing from Somalia. Even if we were inclined to do so, which we are not, they have nothing of value to take because they themselves have destroyed everything of value that they once had. My brother was there with the 10th. Mountain Division in '93 - he told me all about the Somali's widespread habit of tearing out electric services and water pipes in order the sell the copper.

Our first attempt to aid in the rebuilding of their society and economy was met with wholesale hatred and violence by the general population. They don't want us there. Still, we seek to help by delivering humanitarian aid.........

Pirates? Nothing more than criminals looking for easy prey. They have no legitimate grievances against humanitarian missions or against civilians traveling on ships in 300 miles from their coast in international waters – civilians who have no connection to Somalia whatsoever.

Pirates? They use weapons, capture ships, deprive people of their liberty, place people at risk of death, and cause the death of innocents – all in furtherance of their singular objective of extorting ransom from any nation or company that happens to fall prey to them. Any “justification” they give for their acts is pure bullsh*t. They are criminals engaged in a very high stakes criminal enterprise, nothing more.

They understand two things only: money and violence. I would not pay them one thin dime of tribute. Instead, I would respond to their actions with overwhelming violence in order to eliminate their existence and discourage any re-emergence of their actions in the future.

Remy, you own guns, right? Didn’t you recently buy one for your wife? Clearly, you recognize a need for violence when necessary. Guess what? It’s VERY necessary when dealing with pirates.

Do I relish reading about how the three pirates in question were killed? Yes, I do. No apologies – sorry. Just a big sh*t-eatin’ grin on my face whenever I think about it.

By the way - I taught maritime law at the Massachusetts Maritime Academy. Both the skipper and his first mate are from my area - Murphy lives 10 miles from me. I'm just glad they're both coming home. The pirates? I'm just glad they're dead.

The pirates made 150 million last year in ransom.

I doubt you can blame socioeconomic reasons for their actions anymore, they're richer than all of us on this forum combined.

[trax]

The pirates made 150 million last year in ransom.

I doubt you can blame socioeconomic reasons for their actions anymore, they're richer than all of us on this forum combined.

that much huh?.......reconsidering career shift...

[MatthewnOK]

The pirates made 150 million last year in ransom.

Hmm... almost as much as a plumber!

[Rick]

Whatever. I still thinks it was a helluva shot.

[trax]

Whatever. I still thinks it was a helluva shot.

oh yeah, I'll definitely be known as "the pirate who kept his stupid head down"

[Alpine_Sapper]

oh yeah, I'll definitely be known as "the pirate who kept his stupid head down"

Reminds me of Ron White, talking about the cops and bank robbers

"The cops are all whining on TV 'He's got on body armor. He's got on body armor!'
I'm all, I can see his head, shoot him in the head! Here, let my son Poot have a shot.
BANG!
'How's that Daddy?'
'Good job son, you got'im!'"

I'd link you to it, but it's probably not considered pg-13 as he drops the f-bomb once or twice so it'd get removed. Just search Youtube for Ron White and you'll find it. If not that particular clip you'll still laugh your *** off.