Knife/Survival Knife Info.

[NCO]

I got a pretty decent Frosts of Mora knife for only $10. High carbon, red handle so I cna find it if I drop it. SHARP!

I would toss the Mora out to the trash can at sight. Mora has one big issue, and that is that the core of the blade is MUCH harder than the outer layers, meaning it is sharp AT FIRST and stays sharp, AT FIRST, but after couble of sharpenings you'll notice that the soft outer layers are wearing down MUCH faster than the hard core. This results you having over extended "edge" of the knife(junk) and it wont cut nearly as well as it used to. Mora is ment to be a disposable and cheap tool, not a knife.

If you want a really good fixed blade knife go with one of these:

Marttiini Big Game Martef:
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Marttiini Skinner Martef:
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Iisakki Järvenpää Koira(Hound):
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This next one is so old that it deasn't even have any fancy name (couldn't find one), but it is also made by Iisakki Järvenpää:
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[lucznik]

NCO,

Like Kemperor, I also had one of those $10.00, red-handled Moras. However, I too through it out, though not for the reasons you gave. I just found that my hand slipped on the minimalist handle too much which caused me to almost slice off a finger.

[loki]

i like the martini big game martef

[crashdive123]

Lucznik - all I can say about the sparks you are throwing off with your knife and flint is that if it works for you, then it works for me. I'll venture a guess though, that if you try a high carbon content metal against it, like a hacksaw blade (flat edge) you will see a difference.

[NCO]

NCO,

Like Kemperor, I also had one of those $10.00, red-handled Moras. However, I too through it out, though not for the reasons you gave. I just found that my hand slipped on the minimalist handle too much which caused me to almost slice off a finger.

You pay $10.00 for a Mora.... I bought one for 2,40e... That is like $5.00...
"The slipping is not the knife's fault, it's the user's" -My dad used to say this to me when I was a kid and tried to learn to use puukko properly. I think I was like three or four years old when I got my first puukko... OH, those innocent times...

[Rick]

NCO, I think you described the laminated blade. Mora also makes Stainless, Carbon steel and Triflex. I do agree with you, however, that Mora is a tool. All knives are tools. I wouldn't try to judge it against a Ka-Bar for example. They are meant to fill different niches.

Your Marttiini costs eight times as much so I would expect it to be eight times better.

[lucznik]

Lucznik - all I can say about the sparks you are throwing off with your knife and flint is that if it works for you, then it works for me. I'll venture a guess though, that if you try a high carbon content metal against it, like a hacksaw blade (flat edge) you will see a difference.

I'll try that at my first opportunity.

[Ameriborn]

I know some people who have sharpened a Mora plenty of times and they are still as sharp as ever. Moras are great items, and if you want to dispose of them, send them my way, I will be more than happy

[Alpine_Sapper]

"The slipping is not the knife's fault, it's the user's" -My dad used to say this to me when I was a kid and tried to learn to use puukko properly.

Sure, the slipping may be the users fault, not the knife's, but, if it had a proper handle, it wouldn't be an issue. So, who's fault is it? The manufacturer. Doesn't mean I'm going to by a $10 knife that will cause me to slice my hand open, when i can pay $10 for one that has a proper guard.

[Rick]

Like everything else, it depends on the model. Some Moras have single and double guards, some don't have any.

[crashdive123]

They do sell the little red handled Mora with a double finger guard for about three bucks more.

Edit: Yep, what he said.

[Alpine_Sapper]

sure. I'm not adverse to the mora, I just don't really like knives without guards. Just my preference.

[Rick]

I'm the same. I have this premonition of my hand sliding across that razor steel. Just me but....ouch!

[Ken]

A few years back, the small supermarket down the street had some really fresh oysters just come in. I had 'em wrap up about two dozen and then realized that I hadn't used or even seen my oyster knife in years. The store had a few cheap ones on the rack, so I tossed one in the cart. The owner, a friend of mine, laughed and told me to be careful 'cause they were sharp. Of course, I had to respond that I had shucked thousands of clams, scallops and oysters over the years without a nick on me. When I got home, I pulled the knife out of the plastic and cardboard package and realized just what a cheap piece of junk it was. No big deal, right? On my first oyster, I sliced a nice chunk right off of one of my fingers. Took about two months for that piece to fill back in. Only then did I return to that store........

[Rick]

Seems like I posted this before but...I had a buddy that was sitting on top of an empty 50 gallon drum. He had a straight blade in a sheath on his hip. He messed around until he turned the barrel over. He fell backwards, the knife fell out of the sheath and landed on the ground point up. he ran it into his thigh. It wasn't protuding through but it had poked a hole in the top and was still in the back of his thigh to the hilt. He turned out okay with some clean up and stitches but you just never know.

[Ken]

We should start a thread showing our battle scars. I've got more stitches in me than a patchwork quilt. If I could only figure out how to use that new camera. No worries. I'll ask one of the kids to teach me - or to take the pics for me. Next, how do I post those FULL SIZED pics instead of those crappy little boxes? I've read the instructions posted here, but I'm slipping toward the age where technology is passing me up.

[Rick]

No thanks. There's parts of me that even I won't look at.

[RangerXanatos]

We should start a thread showing our battle scars. I've got more stitches in me than a patchwork quilt. If I could only figure out how to use that new camera. No worries. I'll ask one of the kids to teach me - or to take the pics for me. Next, how do I post those FULL SIZED pics instead of those crappy little boxes? I've read the instructions posted here, but I'm slipping toward the age where technology is passing me up.

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On Christmas afternoon, my friend was struck by stupid and I had to take him to the ER. He decided to swing a machete the wrong direction on a fallen tree we had already chopped up and proceeded to cut himself right below the knee.
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The reason it looks so bloody right there is because we had to walk up a steep hill and to the house. Part of the way was driven in a truck but the part we had to walk was about 1/5 of a mile.


The wound.

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Getting the stitches.

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And all 5 stitches.
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A careless mistake can befall us all…

Daniel

[CanSurviveIt]

My belief is that you need two knives. One, a folding knife that stays in your pocket. This is used for emergencies, and for eating etc and as a skinning knife. The second, is a good sheath knife. It should be a fairly thick blade, should be a 5" or longer blade and hold a good edge. This is your working blade. It is used with a "wood hammer" (tree branch) to split wood, chop down smaller tree's, cut kindling, skin animals, basically, it is a do all knife. Most people buy a knife that has a thinner blade, and this is a mistake. Also, avoid saw back knives. They tend to "hang up" when stuck into things and are difficult to remove. And as noted, if you have a thick bladed knife, you can use it to chop or whittle thru neede items rather than trying to saw with a poor quality saw edge.

[crashdive123]

Hey CanSurviveIt - I believe you forgot an introduction. You can find it here http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14