Survival kits info.

[crashdive123]

Replaced them with sterile surgical gloves. They carry more water and don't attract all the comments.

You must have been using the small ones.

[tennecedar]

(You been peeking?)

I tried to shows some guys the uses of the contents of my kit once. You would have thought i had asked to borrow their boat when i asked them to fetch some water in a condom to cook with.

[Gray Wolf]

But they don't make as good a slingshot, or tournaket.

[Ken]

Replaced them with sterile surgical gloves. They carry more water and don't attract all the comments.

Draw some circles on them with black marker. When you fill 'em up, you'll think you've got yourself a cow.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gIcnNHfRBi.../Angry_Cow.jpg

[Gray Wolf]

Oh Ken thats utterly rediculous....

[crashdive123]

.....and be careful around sharp things because you'll have ......well, you know ----an udder failure.

[Ken]

Oh Ken thats utterly rediculous....

.....and be careful around sharp things because you'll have ......well, you know ----an udder failure.

That's it. I'm moving to an udder thread.

[chazlawyer]

Here's a link to a description of my pack with pictures:



Bring on the kitchen sink!

[NCO]

You got pretty much everything there! Nice kit over all. (Although I still like minimalist kits better....)

[Gray Wolf]

Here's a link to a description of my pack with pictures:

http://www.emergencypreparationforum...c.php?f=9&t=33

Bring on the kitchen sink!

Do you have room for anything else? How heavy is that pack the way it is?

I saw on your list Esbit fuel, but I didn't see a stove?

[chazlawyer]

There is an esbit stove tucked in there somewhere...might not have made the pics. The pack is about 25 pounds (if i don't have the slingshot ammo in there...lol) But it's mainly a pack I keep in my car. I have lumped it around on a hike to test it out...and it's certainly manageable...but it's not for a minimalist hiker...

[NCO]

25 punds.. Whats that in kilos? I should find an internet page that does the transforming for me. Oh well. As long as it is not more than 40kg it is ok.

EDIT: Ok, if I'm not complately wrong 25 pounds is around 11kg. So it is a light pack compared to those we had to carry in the army.

[mountain mama]

Or fire + tree = really really big fire!

I found this out the hard way, yesterday

I tend to correlate the importance of a survival kit with that of a survival knife

A survival knife is of course the one you have with you.

and

Its a survival kit the point is that you dont want to carry around everything under the sun

and

…the basic rules of a survival kit. Rule 1. Make it small enough that you won't be tempted to leave it in camp when you take a "short" stroll in the woods. Rule 2. see rule one above.

I like the idea of having the essentials in an Altoids can. This way I can keep the really important, yet compact, stuff with me at all times. Then, I progress up to a fanny pack of stuff I keep in my car. Then, if I know I am going to be out in the elements for an extended amount of time (intentionally), I have my backpack loaded down like I am some kind of pack mule.

I got my lists from the SAS Survival Handbook by John “Lofty” Wiseman, but have added and deleted stuff according to what is relevant for me and my family.

In the Altoid tin (the inside of the tin lid itself can be shined into a reflective signaling mirror):
Waterproof matches
Tallow candle (edible)
Flint & steel
Magnifying glass
Needles (several, 1 lrg eye) & strong thread
Fish hooks & line
Luminous button compass
Beta light (small tritium light)
Snare wire (2-3 ft) brass
Survival wire saw
Medical kit:
Analgesic – hydrocodone; advil; asprin
Immodium
Antibiotic
Benadryl
Water sterilizing tablets
2 exacto blades
Butterfly sutures
Bandaids – assorted sizes
Condom

For my fanny pack:
aluminum mess tin
Fuel / stove
Small Flashlight
4 flares
Marker panel
Matches
Food
Tubes of butter
Dehydrated meat
Salt tablets
Electrolite powder
Survival bag – polythene heat-insulated
Survival log (list which plants you have found to be edible, make notes, etc)
Folding knife
Parang or machete
Wet stone
Duct tape
heavy duty trash bags
550 cord
Survival book
Wrist rocket

In the backpack:
Everything else, including the kitchen sink

[Rick]

Super! A few thoughts that may or may not be of benefit to you. Just my humble opinion.

In the Altoid tin (the inside of the tin lid itself can be shined into a reflective signaling mirror):
Certainly better than nothing but the best signal is a mirror developed for that purpose.

Waterproof matches
Something as good and cheaper is soaking strike anywhere matches in paraffin.

Tallow candle (edible)
Great idea. I had not considered this! I love muti-use.

Flint & steel
You bet! add some char cloth

Magnifying glass
Fresnel lens will probably serve you best

Needles (several, 1 lrg eye) & strong thread
Fish hooks & line
You might consider consolidating your thread and fishing line into paracord. The inner strands can be used for either. Strictly a personal choice here.

Luminous button compass
Beta light (small tritium light)
Snare wire (2-3 ft) brass
Survival wire saw
I assume this is one of those metal thread saws since it's in an Altoid tin. They are not very reliable. It will probably break the first time you use it. You might want to test it before you have to rely on it.

Medical kit:
Analgesic – hydrocodone; advil; asprin
Immodium
Antibiotic
Benadryl
Water sterilizing tablets
2 exacto blades
Butterfly sutures
Bandaids – assorted sizes
Condom
You might consider adding duct tape (you can wrap it around a pencil or one end of you flint steel if it's long enough). You can't have too much paracord or duct tape.


For my fanny pack:
aluminum mess tin
Fuel / stove
Small Flashlight
4 flares
Marker panel
Matches
Food
Tubes of butter
Dehydrated meat
Salt tablets
Electrolite powder
Survival bag – polythene heat-insulated
Survival log (list which plants you have found to be edible, make notes, etc)
Folding knife
Parang or machete
Wet stone
Duct tape
heavy duty trash bags
550 cord
Survival book
Wrist rocket
Nice list. I would still add a butane lighter and some safety pins. You could also add some cotton balls soaked in Vaseline. You should be able to stick six (6) in a 35mm plastic film canister. They are great for starting fires and the Vaseline is great for chapped lips and chafing.


In the backpack:
Everything else, including the kitchen sink (don't forget the strainer. )

[mountain mama]

Rick, thanks for the input! This is exactly why I am here. I never think of everything until it's too late. Now, on to the knives forum so I can find a good folding blade

[Rick]

My pleasure. None of us can think of everything. All of us learn from each other. If any of it was of value then I'm glad to help.

Knives forum? Those exist? Why doesn't anyone tell me about these things? People, you have to start sharing this stuff with me!! (walks off kicking chat).

[mountain mama]

lmao okay okay excuse me....the knives TOPIC....happy now?

[crashdive123]

Whew - thought you were gonna be one of those conspiracy theorists that says there are other forums. Glad you cleared that up.

[chiye tanka]

Rick, you're overdue for a trip to see the spirit talkers again, aren't you?

[Rick]

It's really odd that you ask that because just last night a Red Tailed Hawk visited with me. He asked if I was overdue for a visit with Chiya Tanka. Is that amazing or what?