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    This is not my own creation but something I found a while back on the net and have kept. I've deleted some links because they no longer work.

    Any thing you know how to make that would be useful like black powder, drugs
    and weapons

    Books on herb uses.
    Books on how to survive
    Booze

    Canning jars and lids
    Cigarettes
    Chickens, Rooster and eggs
    Condoms.

    Disposable/cloth diapers
    Female hygiene products
    Kaidangku

    Harmonicas and other small easy to carry musical things.

    Cheep knives

    Pet supplies, wormers, flea killer, and food
    Porn
    Pure lead

    Seed for growing food Grain seeds. Wheat, barley, oats, rye, sunflower and corn. Herb seeds Culinary and medicinal.

    Services making candles, milling grain, sawing lumber, repairing tires, pilot, Ect.

    Tools for growing food and making shelters

    Your knowledge

    Wrist rockets. Very cheap now. Very handy later.

    The big thing with trading stock is to have things on hand that you can live without and other can not.




    So lets look at the list so far and talk about what would and would not make the best trading stock.

    Brewing yeast and beer/wine making supplies- If you traded off your Brewing yeast and then others will be able to make there own beer and wine. You would be better off to make the beer and wine and trade it.

    Pet supplies, wormers, flea killer, and food.- Dogs and cats are live stock AKA FOOD

    Bread yeast- see brewing yeast. It would be best to make the bread and trade it.

    Honey- only if you can replace what you trade off. In other words you have bee hives.

    Ammo- If trade ammo to others the you could run the risk some day it will be used to take what you have away from you. Trade to get ammo.

    Antibiotics. Antibacterial ointment. First aid supplies.- This is something that you may not be able to replace. Only trade it off if the person has something tat you need and can not get an other way.

    Condoms- may not be the best time to start a baby they also have other uses.

    Herb seeds- Do not trade off the seeds trade off dried herbs that you have grown with the seed then you control the supply.

    Grain seeds- Do not trade off the seeds. Make bread and other foods from it and trade it off.

    Wrist rockets- How about making sling shots and using them for trade stock.
    Salt- only if you can replace it or trade it only for things you can not get any other way.

    Chickens & egg.- Trade off the eggs not the chickens. As the numbers of roster that you have starts to increase then you can trade the extras for things that you can not get any other way. But ONLY trade off the rosters that way you control the source of eggs.

    Candles. Oil for lanterns. Wick. Wax- Only if you can replace what you are trading off.

    Water purification tablets- See Candles

    Bleach. Laundry soap.- See Candles
    Shampoo.- See Candles

    Cigarettes, Booze, drugs & porn- Are all addictive and you can use that addiction to your advantage. This is something none of us need and we cane live with out but there are some that would pass up food for a smoke.

    Female hygiene products- there are substitutes for this product that other may not know about. Use there ignorance against them to get a higher price. You could also make reusable products them and trade them off in our disposable society a lot of people will not understand the concept of reusable at least not a first. Here is a link for you all to look at http://lunapads.com/

    disposable diapers- You do not need disposable diapers for a baby for that matter you do need diapers at all. And here are some links to back up what I am saying, and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eliminationcommunication/ Also see-Female hygiene products.

    Cheep knives- I have been buying cheep snap off to sharpen knives for .33c each and putting them back. I do not see them as a weapon that can be used against me to get what I have.

    Tools for growing food and making shelters- If you do not have a forge get or make one then you can make tools.

    Seed for growing food- only trade off seeds for things that you can not get any other way. and never trade off grain seeds. You would be better off to trade off the food you grow then you would the seeds to grow it.

    Pure lead- Pure lead dose not make very good bullets unless they are for muzzleloaders. Also see- Cheep knives

    Your knowledge and Books on how to survive- If you can make paper you can write your own books to trade off. You could also teach classes for a price.

    Any thing you know how to make that would be useful like black powder, weapons and tools- This is why you need a forge.
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    Here's another list that goes with above. It's a list of skills and tools that could be used to barter. Again, not mine. One I found some time ago.

    Alternative energy specialist
    Ammunition re-loader
    Appliance repairman
    Artist
    Assayer
    Baker
    Banker
    Barber
    Basket maker
    Bathhouse/shower room operator
    Beekeeper
    Bicycle Repairman
    Biodiesel maker
    Blackpowder maker
    Blacksmith
    Bookbinder
    Botanist
    Brew master
    Brick maker
    Bullet caster
    Butcher/meat processor
    Candle maker
    Candy maker
    Carpenter
    Cartridge maker
    Cartwright
    Chandler
    Charcoal burner
    Cheese maker
    Chemist
    Chimney sweep
    Cobbler/shoe maker
    Comedian
    Cook
    Cooper (barrel maker)
    Coppersmith
    Dentist
    Distiller, drinking alcohol
    Distiller, fuel alcohol
    Doctor
    Dog trainer
    Dye maker
    Electrician
    Electronics tech
    Entertainer
    Farmer
    Farm hand
    Farrier
    Firewood purveyor
    Fisherman
    Food canner/processor
    Furniture maker
    Gardener
    Gatherer (wild plants, useful rocks and minerals)
    Glass maker
    Goatherd
    Goldsmith/silversmith
    Gravedigger
    Gunpowder maker
    Gunsmith/gun maker
    Handyman
    Harvester/picker
    Heavy equipment operator
    Herbalist/mineralist
    Historian
    Horse trainer/wrangler
    Hunter/trapper
    Ice purveyor/harvester/maker
    Ink maker
    Judge/arbitrator
    Karaoke operator
    Knife maker
    Knife sharpener
    Knitter/crocheter
    Laundress/laundry room operator
    Leather worker
    Librarian
    Logger/forester/sawyer
    Lumber maker
    Machinist
    Maid
    Massage therapist
    Mechanic
    Metal worker
    Metallurgist
    Midwife
    Milk maid
    Milk processor
    Miller
    Millwright
    Miner
    Mulcher/composter/manure collector
    Musician
    Net maker
    Nurse
    Optician (eyeglass maker)
    Orchardman/arborist
    Paper maker
    Peace Officer
    Pedi-cab driver
    Pest control specialist
    Pharmacist
    Physicist
    Plumber
    Postman
    Pottery maker
    Primitive building specialist
    Printer/newspaperman
    Radio Operator
    Rancher
    Ranch hand
    Repairman
    Roofer
    Rope/cordage maker
    Sail maker
    Sailor (Boatswain)
    Salt maker
    Salvage specialist
    Scribe
    Secretary
    Security guard
    Shake/shingle maker
    Sheep sheerer
    Shepherd
    Shipwright/boat builder
    Shoemaker
    Skill At Arms instructor
    Small engine mechanic
    Smelter/foundryman
    Soap maker
    Soldier
    Spice purveyor
    Spinner/Weaver
    Stonemason/brick layer
    Storyteller
    Sugar maker
    Surveyor
    Tailor/seamstress
    Tanner
    Teacher
    Thatcher
    Tinker
    Tire repairman
    Tool & die maker
    Toy & game maker
    Trader/Wagoner
    Trapper
    Truck driver
    Undertaker
    Veterinarian
    Watch/clock repairman/maker
    Weaver
    Welder
    Well driller
    Wheelwright
    Winemaker
    Wood gas equipment maker
    Woodworker

    Here are some examples of Tradesman’s Tools that could be stockpiled and either used and the product/service bartered, or their USE bartered out. One wouldn’t barter away the tools that bring in the food.

    ±500# scale
    ±100# scale
    ±10# scale
    ±16oz scale


    Tailor/Seamstress tools
    Sewing machine
    Serger
    Sewing basket (needles, thimbles, thread, measuring tape,
    seam ripper, scissors, shears, marking chalk, straight edge, pins,
    neck magnifying glass, etc.)
    bolts of cloth, patterns, spare needles, pins, chalk, thread, buttons,
    zippers, snaps, etc)
    Treadle type sewing machine (Janome 712T)
    weaving looms
    >1,000 watt generator


    Food processing tools
    Grain grinders, solar dehydrators, butchering tools, manual meat slicer, manual meat grinder, sausage stuffer, stuffing tubes, jerky shooter, water purifier


    barbers tools
    scissors, combs, hair brushes, dusting brush, broom, dust pan, chair,
    neck apron, razor, shaving cup, shaving soap, towels

    ammunition reloader’s tools
    Dillion progressive tool w/primary caliber dies
    RCBS press with common caliber dies
    Bullet casting equipment
    lead
    black powder making tools & screens

    laundry tools
    Staber washing machine
    laundry soap
    bleach
    clothes lines w/poles, stakes & clothes pins
    water heater (kettle w/tripod)
    water tank
    12v pump & battery
    drain line
    James washer w/wringer
    2+ washtubs
    >1,000 watt generator

    entertainment tools
    band instruments
    projection TV
    TV projector
    Lap-top computer
    DVD disk player
    VHS tape player
    Chairs
    Karaoke machine w/cd-g’s
    Lighting system
    Sound system
    >1,500 watt generator
    Battery bank, solar panels, and inverter
    protective bullet resistant face for TV’s if used
    Classic books for storyteller to read

    home canning equipment & supplies
    firewood cutting tools
    knife/edged tool sharpening tools
    printer’s/newspaper publisher’s tools
    butcher/meat cutter’s tools
    meat processors tools (sausage, etc.)
    tanner’s tools
    milk processors tools (cheese, etc.)
    baker’s tools & supplies
    bath house/shower room tools
    candle maker’s tools & supplies
    gardener’s tools
    mechanic’s tools
    machinist’s tools - Smithy Granite 1340 Industrial Max metalworking all-in-one machine
    woodworker’s tools - Shopsmith Mark V woodworking all-in-one machine
    blacksmith’s tools - Oxygen accumulator, acetylene generator
    plumber’s tools
    lumber making tools - portable sawmill
    electrician’s tools
    carpenter’s tools
    roofer’s tools
    stonemason’s tools
    primitive building tools
    cobbler/shoe maker’s tools
    soap maker’s tools
    brewer/wine maker’s tools
    distillery tools
    miller’s tools
    spinner & weaver’s tools (looms)
    teaching tools and supplies K-12
    smelter/foundry/metal worker’s tools
    sheep sheering tools
    papermaking tools
    rope, cordage, and net making tools
    millwright’s tools
    farm tools (prepare, sow, cultivate, harvest)
    biodiesel equipment & supplies
    wood gas generator equipment & supplies
    charcoal making tools
    black powder making tools
    paper making tools
    reference/do-it-yourself library (books/magazines/CD-ROMs/DVDs)(never let the media out of your control)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Here's another list that goes with above. It's a list of skills and tools that could be used to barter. Again, not mine. One I found some time ago.

    Alternative energy specialist
    Ammunition re-loader
    Appliance repairman
    Artist
    Assayer
    ATTORNEY
    Baker
    Banker
    Barber
    Basket maker
    Bathhouse/shower room operator
    Beekeeper
    Bicycle Repairman
    Biodiesel maker
    Blackpowder maker
    Blacksmith
    Bookbinder
    Botanist
    Brew master
    Brick maker
    Bullet caster
    Butcher/meat processor
    Candle maker
    Candy maker
    Carpenter
    Cartridge maker
    Cartwright
    Chandler
    Charcoal burner
    Cheese maker
    Chemist
    Chimney sweep
    Cobbler/shoe maker
    Comedian
    Cook
    Cooper (barrel maker)
    Coppersmith
    Dentist
    Distiller, drinking alcohol
    Distiller, fuel alcohol
    Doctor
    Dog trainer
    Dye maker
    Electrician
    Electronics tech
    Entertainer
    Farmer
    Farm hand
    Farrier
    Firewood purveyor
    Fisherman
    Food canner/processor
    Furniture maker
    Gardener
    Gatherer (wild plants, useful rocks and minerals)
    Glass maker
    Goatherd
    Goldsmith/silversmith
    Gravedigger
    Gunpowder maker
    Gunsmith/gun maker
    Handyman
    Harvester/picker
    Heavy equipment operator
    Herbalist/mineralist
    Historian
    Horse trainer/wrangler
    Hunter/trapper
    Ice purveyor/harvester/maker
    Ink maker
    Judge/arbitrator
    Karaoke operator
    Knife maker
    Knife sharpener
    Knitter/crocheter
    Laundress/laundry room operator
    LAWYER
    Leather worker
    Librarian
    Logger/forester/sawyer
    Lumber maker
    Machinist
    Maid
    Massage therapist
    Mechanic
    Metal worker
    Metallurgist
    Midwife
    Milk maid
    Milk processor
    Miller
    Millwright
    Miner
    Moderator
    Mulcher/composter/manure collector
    Musician
    Net maker
    Nurse
    Optician (eyeglass maker)
    Orchardman/arborist
    Paper maker
    Peace Officer
    Pedi-cab driver
    Pest control specialist
    Pharmacist
    Physicist
    Plumber
    Postman
    Pottery maker
    Primitive building specialist
    Printer/newspaperman
    Radio Operator
    Rancher
    Ranch hand
    Repairman
    Roofer
    Rope/cordage maker
    Sail maker
    Sailor (Boatswain)
    Salt maker
    Salvage specialist
    Scribe
    Secretary
    Security guard
    Shake/shingle maker
    Sheep sheerer
    Shepherd
    Shipwright/boat builder
    Shoemaker
    Skill At Arms instructor
    Small engine mechanic
    Smelter/foundryman
    Soap maker
    Soldier
    Spice purveyor
    Spinner/Weaver
    Stonemason/brick layer
    Storyteller
    Sugar maker
    Surveyor
    Tailor/seamstress
    Tanner
    Teacher
    Thatcher
    Tinker
    Tire repairman
    Tool & die maker
    Toy & game maker
    Trader/Wagoner
    Trapper
    Truck driver
    Undertaker
    Veterinarian
    Watch/clock repairman/maker
    Weaver
    Welder
    Well driller
    Wheelwright
    Winemaker
    Wood gas equipment maker
    Woodworker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Here's another list that goes with above. It's a list of skills and tools that could be used to barter. Again, not mine. One I found some time ago.

    Alternative energy specialist
    Ammunition re-loader
    Appliance repairman
    Artist
    Assayer
    Baker
    Banker
    Barber
    Basket maker
    Bathhouse/shower room operator
    Beekeeper
    Bicycle Repairman
    Biodiesel maker
    Blackpowder maker
    Blacksmith
    Bookbinder
    Botanist
    Brew master
    Brick maker
    Bullet caster
    Butcher/meat processor
    Candle maker
    Candy maker
    Carpenter
    Cartridge maker
    Cartwright
    Chandler
    Charcoal burner
    Cheese maker
    Chemist
    Chimney sweep
    Cobbler/shoe maker
    Comedian
    Cook
    Cooper (barrel maker)
    Coppersmith
    Dentist
    Distiller, drinking alcohol
    Distiller, fuel alcohol
    Doctor
    Dog trainer
    Dye maker
    Electrician
    Electronics tech
    Entertainer
    Farmer
    Farm hand
    Farrier
    Firewood purveyor
    Fisherman
    Food canner/processor
    Furniture maker
    Gardener
    Gatherer (wild plants, useful rocks and minerals)
    Glass maker
    Goatherd
    Goldsmith/silversmith
    Gravedigger
    Gunpowder maker
    Gunsmith/gun maker
    Handyman
    Harvester/picker
    Heavy equipment operator
    Herbalist/mineralist
    Historian
    Horse trainer/wrangler
    Hunter/trapper
    Ice purveyor/harvester/maker
    Ink maker
    Judge/arbitrator
    Karaoke operator
    Knife maker
    Knife sharpener
    Knitter/crocheter
    Laundress/laundry room operator
    Leather worker
    Librarian
    Logger/forester/sawyer
    Lumber maker
    Machinist
    Maid
    Massage therapist
    Mechanic
    Metal worker
    Metallurgist
    Midwife
    Milk maid
    Milk processor
    Miller
    Millwright
    Miner
    Mulcher/composter/manure collector
    Musician
    Net maker
    Nurse
    Optician (eyeglass maker)
    Orchardman/arborist
    Paper maker
    Peace Officer
    Pedi-cab driver
    Pest control specialist
    Pharmacist
    Physicist
    Plumber
    Postman
    Pottery maker
    Primitive building specialist
    Printer/newspaperman
    Radio Operator
    Rancher
    Ranch hand
    Repairman
    Roofer
    Rope/cordage maker
    Sail maker
    Sailor (Boatswain)
    Salt maker
    Salvage specialist
    Scribe
    Secretary
    Security guard
    Shake/shingle maker
    Sheep sheerer
    Shepherd
    Shipwright/boat builder
    Shoemaker
    Skill At Arms instructor
    Small engine mechanic
    Smelter/foundryman
    Soap maker
    Soldier
    Spice purveyor
    Spinner/Weaver
    Stonemason/brick layer
    Storyteller
    Sugar maker
    Surveyor
    Tailor/seamstress
    Tanner
    Teacher
    Thatcher
    Tinker
    Tire repairman
    Tool & die maker
    Toy & game maker
    Trader/Wagoner
    Trapper
    Truck driver
    Undertaker
    Veterinarian
    Watch/clock repairman/maker
    Weaver
    Welder
    Well driller
    Wheelwright
    Winemaker
    Wood gas equipment maker
    Woodworker

    Here are some examples of Tradesman’s Tools that could be stockpiled and either used and the product/service bartered, or their USE bartered out. One wouldn’t barter away the tools that bring in the food.

    ±500# scale
    ±100# scale
    ±10# scale
    ±16oz scale


    Tailor/Seamstress tools
    Sewing machine
    Serger
    Sewing basket (needles, thimbles, thread, measuring tape,
    seam ripper, scissors, shears, marking chalk, straight edge, pins,
    neck magnifying glass, etc.)
    bolts of cloth, patterns, spare needles, pins, chalk, thread, buttons,
    zippers, snaps, etc)
    Treadle type sewing machine (Janome 712T)
    weaving looms
    >1,000 watt generator


    Food processing tools
    Grain grinders, solar dehydrators, butchering tools, manual meat slicer, manual meat grinder, sausage stuffer, stuffing tubes, jerky shooter, water purifier


    barbers tools
    scissors, combs, hair brushes, dusting brush, broom, dust pan, chair,
    neck apron, razor, shaving cup, shaving soap, towels

    ammunition reloader’s tools
    Dillion progressive tool w/primary caliber dies
    RCBS press with common caliber dies
    Bullet casting equipment
    lead
    black powder making tools & screens

    laundry tools
    Staber washing machine
    laundry soap
    bleach
    clothes lines w/poles, stakes & clothes pins
    water heater (kettle w/tripod)
    water tank
    12v pump & battery
    drain line
    James washer w/wringer
    2+ washtubs
    >1,000 watt generator

    entertainment tools
    band instruments
    projection TV
    TV projector
    Lap-top computer
    DVD disk player
    VHS tape player
    Chairs
    Karaoke machine w/cd-g’s
    Lighting system
    Sound system
    >1,500 watt generator
    Battery bank, solar panels, and inverter
    protective bullet resistant face for TV’s if used
    Classic books for storyteller to read

    home canning equipment & supplies
    firewood cutting tools
    knife/edged tool sharpening tools
    printer’s/newspaper publisher’s tools
    butcher/meat cutter’s tools
    meat processors tools (sausage, etc.)
    tanner’s tools
    milk processors tools (cheese, etc.)
    baker’s tools & supplies
    bath house/shower room tools
    candle maker’s tools & supplies
    gardener’s tools
    mechanic’s tools
    machinist’s tools - Smithy Granite 1340 Industrial Max metalworking all-in-one machine
    woodworker’s tools - Shopsmith Mark V woodworking all-in-one machine
    blacksmith’s tools - Oxygen accumulator, acetylene generator
    plumber’s tools
    lumber making tools - portable sawmill
    electrician’s tools
    carpenter’s tools
    roofer’s tools
    stonemason’s tools
    primitive building tools
    cobbler/shoe maker’s tools
    soap maker’s tools
    brewer/wine maker’s tools
    distillery tools
    miller’s tools
    spinner & weaver’s tools (looms)
    teaching tools and supplies K-12
    smelter/foundry/metal worker’s tools
    sheep sheering tools
    papermaking tools
    rope, cordage, and net making tools
    millwright’s tools
    farm tools (prepare, sow, cultivate, harvest)
    biodiesel equipment & supplies
    wood gas generator equipment & supplies
    charcoal making tools
    black powder making tools
    paper making tools
    reference/do-it-yourself library (books/magazines/CD-ROMs/DVDs)(never let the media out of your control)

    Heck yeah, I'll have employment at the end of the world!
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    holy crap ...who puts all that in their pack
    always be prepared-prepare all ways
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken
    Must have been an oversight.........but I didn't forget YOU
    Uh, yeah. Oversight. That's it.

    It's not for your pack, duffus. It's barter items. You can keep half stored in bunker 2 East and the other half in bunker 4 South. Just don't store the matches with the gasoline. You know how you are.
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    Most of the lady preppers I talk with agree that salt, spices and flavorings will be good bartering items when SHTF.

    I made a bridal gown for a wedding in return for 50 lbs of good beef. DH recently repaired a transmission and in return got an engine for his race car. Bartering is nothing new to us and with the economy it is a great option these days.

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    Thank you Rick that's exactly what I was looking for. I'm already making a list from the suggestions everyone has posted. I think this summer I'll consentrate on primitive tools to take the place of all my power tools that won't have electricity to run them. I need to learn how to use them anyway. No time like the present.
    Well why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Just throw some mothballs in with those blankers or might not have any when you need them.
    Each blanket is in a vacuum sealed plastic bag with red cedar shavings within the folds. That is a natural moth repellant that smells good.(unlike moth balls)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoosierarcher View Post
    Each blanket is in a vacuum sealed plastic bag with red cedar shavings within the folds. That is a natural moth repellant that smells good.(unlike moth balls)
    That's a great way to store em. And you're right - don't need to air them out.
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    i pick up a few extra small things here and there that I know I wont need\want. Mainly little things of coffee, extra beer (don't drink it) and other "creature comforts" I know people will want to trade.

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    I would think that ply wood , nails , rope and blue tarps would be real handy
    Do it with what you got and you want need what you don't have

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    I don't know if any of the other (ex) smokers have mentioned this, but tobacco is a HORRIBLE item to stock for a TEOTWAWKI or TSHTF scenario as a barter item. Tobacco goes STALE. For those of you that smoke, have you ever been jonesing for a smoke, and not had any cash? After frantically hunting the house for an hour or so you remember last year when you were drunk and dropped a cigarette in the car. so you go tear your car apart to find the blessed nicotine. it's broke. no problem. you split it with another piece of rolling paper. You light it, anticapating that sweet taste of your favorite brand. You inhale...and it's gone. It was so stale it didn't even make it through the first three puffs. Or you didn't, because it was so stale it choked you.

    At this point, if I still smoked, and I had barted for those cigarettes, I'd turn around and shoot you. not because you ripped me off. I'm sure I could explain the situation and probably reverse the exchange since you had an inferior product. It's more because when nicotine junkies start fiending they can be as bad as crackheads or heroin addicts.

    My point in all this? (Holy cripes, he had a point?) Please keep cigars and cigarettes or roll your own tobacco in a humidifier, or vacuum sealed in the freezer. As for as dip, I have no idea, but I bet the shelf life is pretty lengthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    This is an interesting thread. Let me tie this into a thread we had a couple of months ago about stealing to survive. Just about everyone said sure the would.

    So now you barter one of your wool blankets or five cans of veggies or whatever and that guy tells another then another and the next thing you know everyone in the area knows you have blankets or veggies or whatever. It might have been the last ones you had but they don't know that. So, one evening, they come knocking. Yeah, I know, you have all this fire power. Trouble is they did to. Only they had a scope on theirs. Your family will mourn your passing.

    I don't stockpile to trade with anyone. That's not my primary concern. I'll trade my skills but not my supplies. I'd just as soon no one know what I have.

    I used to just be paranoid but now I'm paranoid that I'm not paranoid enough.
    I agree with this 100%... unless you personally know and trust your trading partner you are asking for trouble... and it may come from many different directions...

    When/if things get bad enough to rely on bartering people will be pretty desperate (especially those who have made no preps) and will have no problem just trying to take what they want (or perceive what you have) to provide for their own...
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    [hmmm, let's see....I got a swiss army knife, a yo-yo and a ball of string. Oh and half a pack of Juicy Fruit gum. You want me to go see what I got in the truck? Did I misunderstand the original question?

    What do you have for barter? let's go, let's get it rolling here....

    oh and by the way...the yo-yo is a maelstrom by spintastics...so don't tell me Not letting that puppy go for just anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpine_Sapper View Post
    I don't know if any of the other (ex) smokers have mentioned this, but tobacco is a HORRIBLE item to stock for a TEOTWAWKI or TSHTF scenario as a barter item. Tobacco goes STALE. For those of you that smoke, have you ever been jonesing for a smoke, and not had any cash? After frantically hunting the house for an hour or so you remember last year when you were drunk and dropped a cigarette in the car. so you go tear your car apart to find the blessed nicotine. it's broke. no problem. you split it with another piece of rolling paper. You light it, anticapating that sweet taste of your favorite brand. You inhale...and it's gone. It was so stale it didn't even make it through the first three puffs. Or you didn't, because it was so stale it choked you.

    At this point, if I still smoked, and I had barted for those cigarettes, I'd turn around and shoot you. not because you ripped me off. I'm sure I could explain the situation and probably reverse the exchange since you had an inferior product. It's more because when nicotine junkies start fiending they can be as bad as crackheads or heroin addicts.

    My point in all this? (Holy cripes, he had a point?) Please keep cigars and cigarettes or roll your own tobacco in a humidifier, or vacuum sealed in the freezer. As for as dip, I have no idea, but I bet the shelf life is pretty lengthy.
    simple solution -- keep your tobacco in a ziploc bag. Add a little moisture every few months. I have some pipe tobacco that is about a year old. Still moist and gives me a great smoke. I don't have a humidor, just that darn ziploc bag

    I don't smoke much so that solution saves me from having to buy a new bag of tabac every time I have a hankering. Plus if it starts to dry out you can "refresh" it with some moisture and wait a few days.

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    I guess my charm, pleasing personality and the ability to comfort ladies. If that BS don't work I would go for things I can do reasonably well. I can do most trades, block, brickwork, knives, booze, repair anything but a broken heart or the crack of dawn. Yep, I would barter my skills and I also have a Swiss army knife and a roll of mints in my pocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
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    Classic means you're old don't it? Either way, Thanks I guess
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