Guns & Ammo

[Chris]

Okay, seems to me we've got a lot of gun discussions on this forum, and they're spread out.

Emergency preparedness gun? Post there.

Survival gun? Post there.

Just cool looking gun? Maybe post in General Chat.

Gun laws? General chat.

Should we just make a "Guns and Ammo" subforum? And if so, where do we place it, under General, Survival, or Emergency Preparedness?

[Pict]

This does seem to be a broad enough topic of general interest to warrant its own sub forum. Mac

[Pal334]

That sounds like a good idea. Keeps the subject together. Maybe in the "General" area?

[Sourdough]

Let's not kid our self, People are mesmerized by lethal tools, firearms & knives, to bunker'busters, me as much as anyone, maybe more than most.

Three thoughts: Yes, to the sub-forum idea.

Two: I suggest you have two moderators who would be restricted to this new sub-forum only. Sarky would get my vote as knowledgeable, and for the other it would be good if they were in an other time zone, like East coast time or Europe.

Three: Have a way to but members in the "COOLER" for 10 Days for failure to be semi-polite. Some people are very, very passionate about there firearms; and it seems the less knowledgeable they are, the more righteous they are in they belief about ballistics.

[Chris]

Why do you think a moderator is needed?

There might be some confusion as to the role of a moderator.

A moderator is not given the title based on expertise on any subject. A moderator is not the guru, the swami, the ninja of a topic. They are not solomon.

A moderator is someone who has volunteered to take the responsibility to keep the forum running smoothly, they are there to stop spam, make sure rules are followed, and help new members work through technical issues.

In the realm of opinion, their opinion on a topic (other than the forum rules) holds no more sway than any other member.

And we can issue temporary bans to people already, no worries about a cooler.

[crashdive123]

I do like the idea of a sub forum. One of the advantages or disadvantages depending on your point of view is that it will probably attract a whole new crowd of folks.

[Ken]

A moderator is not given the title based on expertise on any subject. A moderator is not the guru, the swami, the ninja of a topic. They are not solomon.

HEY RICK!

[Pal334]

Hopefully not the "Zombie" killers. They frighten me, and I would have to beg Hopeak for a corner to of his hinterlands to hide in

[az51]

Makes sense to me.

[crashdive123]

One of the restrictions I've seen on other places where firearms are discussed is a warning that discussions of converting to something illegal is not allowed. I don't know how much if any liability or exposure a forum owner has (Ken may be able to answer), but probably not a bad disclaimer to have - plus it'll help keep the moonbats at bay.

[Chris]

If someone comes and asks what is the best gun to kill a zombie you have my permission to mess with them. Preferably by suggesting non-existant weapons.

"A shoulder fired rail gun that shoots aluminum ordinance at 5 times the speed of sound"

or

"A particle plasma beam that can vaporize sections of the zombie, thus preventing grow-back."

A Moonraker laser, Storm Trooper Repeater, or Type II Phaser, are also all good suggestions.

[crashdive123]

I'm kind of partial to the (with my best Arnold accent) phase plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

[Ken]

One of the restrictions I've seen on other places where firearms are discussed is a warning that discussions of converting to something illegal is not allowed. I don't know how much if any liability or exposure a forum owner has (Ken may be able to answer), but probably not a bad disclaimer to have - plus it'll help keep the moonbats at bay.

You're right on target, Crash! I've thought about disclaimers when I've read other posts (explosives). Your suggestion is a great idea.

[Rick]

Chris - If you're going to make a sub forum for guns, you might as well add knives, too. There are probably as many threads on knives as there are guns. I think it would be a good idea. I think it would draw additional folks that might not necessarily be interested in outdoor topics but do like guns/knives. A rules/disclaimer sticky is probably a smart thing to have.

Ken - Moderators are above guru, swami or ninja. Chris sends us through an intensive 7 minute course on the proper use of smoke, mirrors and fairy dust. We also receive training on how to properly put a halter on Nora but I have better sense than that. So, watch your step!

[Ken]

Ken - Moderators are above guru, swami or ninja. Chris sends us through and intensive 7 minute course on the proper use of smoke, mirrors and fairy dust.

Ahhhh. My suspicions have been confirmed.

[Rick]

(scanning through calendar) Well, there you go. That it explains it. It's national pick on Rick day. I'll swan. I never knew.

[Chris]

I am a fervent defender of our second amendment rights. I am a responsible firearm owner...and if i want to talk guns, i go on gun sites.

See, the goal would be for you to be able to stay here. More traffic for this site, more interest, and while true, you could get a different type of people registering, it would never be the site's main topic anymore than gardening is, and in the end it'd allow you to discuss guns with the types of people here, rather than the types of people at an exclusive gun forum.

In the end, people are talking about guns here anyways, this just organizes it.

[Beans]

If someone comes and asks what is the best gun to kill a zombie you have my permission to mess with them. Preferably by suggesting non-existant weapons.

IMHO a sub-forum for guns and ammo would attract the zombie killers/hunters and would/could change the climate of this site.

One of the things that attracted my intrest to this site was not the repetitive questions of : 40 S&W vs .45 Acp Vs 9mm vs .22 LR , which ammo is best for "zombies", would my magic elephant gun work if there were no elephants?

but the posted subjects that contained information that could be used to survive a catastrophe event that could happen to any one of us on a day to day basics.

in the end it'd allow you to discuss guns with the types of people here, rather than the types of people at an exclusive gun forum.

we do that now, but it is not a main topic it enhances our knowledge but doesn't overwhelm it.

IMHO the guns and ammo sub topic forum would attract the

'types of people at an exclusive gun forum'

where I have seen that they post the same questions on several gun forum hoping to get the answer they want and then going back to the other gun forums. posting that answer just to stir the pot.

I haven't seen that here YET.

The trolls seem to be well regulated on this site

Stepping down off my soap box.

[trax]

I'm leaning toward Remy and Beans with this, it's a tough call. I've been to gun specific forums as well and after a while, the zombie hunters show up, seem to get an awful lot of 'how to cure everything that's wrong with the republic in .38 caliber or greater' types and the "how could you possibly use less than a .300 magnum on moose, and blah blah blah...People now are quite specific about why guns are being brought up, what they're using them for etc. People with gun questions that can't get them answered here can move along to a gun specific forum, no? "With zombies, should I use the multi-stage plasma blaster or am I better off with a photon grenade launcher?" Answer: "move along sir, you're blocking traffic".

...and given some of the past postings here, I'd recommend a disclaimer anyway, too many on explosives and kill 'em all let God sort 'em out type postings have happened already

[tennecedar]

I wouldn't mind reading the gun threads in one place. I won't however post in any. I never talk specifics of what i may or may not have. ( Everything I say can and will be used against me in a court of law...) But that's just me. The information is very useful. I do hope to avoid any mall ninjas on this forum tho. my $.02