hey exploding earth

[trax]

If you did this already and I missed it, my bad, tell me where it's posted and I'll look.

But, I'm thinking after reading your posts....give us a list of what you've been using so far, and describe the environment you're going out into. I'm sure you can get a lot more clear advice from those of us on board with that information. Your tenacity speaks volumes to me, but at times, so does your bullheadedness...flip side of the same coin.

Get some good information by giving some good information before you go out. Your knife question for instance, what's a good knife depends on what you're primarily using it for, a good general purpose knife doesn't always make a good skinner for instance. Then you have to look at your own budget, how much knife can you afford

The same is true for your shelter, bedding etc. What I need in November in Manitoba is a far cry from what you need in Florida, but if we know what you're heading out for, into and for how long , we can help you out better. And never give up, dude, you're getting there. I'm reading more positive stuff in all of your posts.

[Beo]

Yeah, what he said, come on tenderfoot give us more info.
(A tenderfoot is a term that came from mountainmen to describe someone that's new to the mountains and wilderness and never lived off the land before. It can be applied to anyone who is inexperienced.) This is not an insult as we were all new to this before, my son is a semi-tenderfoot as you are. But you are doing this alone and my hats off to you.

[explodingearth]

what ive been using? lol nothing really i been practicing my fires. i got a lighter, a plastic cord. a pot. a tent. a back pack. dry foods 2 crappy kitchen knives. a steel baton. my old equipt list is in my first post on colorado i am in the process of revising it and doing clothes shopping though. i think today i will make a list of all NON clothes equipt and post it up. but maybe as i order my clothes {they are verry expensive} i can make a post for each item (head, glove, pant, jacket) and you guys can give me your advice on which one is probably the best for the money. that will come later though there are SO many pieces of clothes between like 3 suppliers i have to go through... equipt list comes next. as for my terrain? pretty much all of western colorado will eventually be my ground. its gonna be SNOWY up there i am looking for high quality insulated dead grassy colored hunting clothes. insulated camo light weight boots. insulated long pants with good pockets pants and jacket must be durable of course. durable insulated jacket same color and a wool hat and a camo face mask. insulated rugged gloves that i can fire my bow with too. i will start "camping" the weekend in unmarked western mountain territory and eventually when im ready i will stay close to my car. as i survive longer i will move further and further out until eventually i am totally lost in the mountains living in seclusion its not really a planned trip out for fun. i want to live in the mountains

[explodingearth]

this is pretty much everything. what dont i need? what am i missing? (clothes come later, not included in this list)

550 para cord
cooking pot
cup
binocular
baton
alice pack
magnesium OR steel and flint... which is best?
compass
thin metal survival blanket... possible uses?
microfiber towel (bathing, drying, blanket roofing etc.)
magnifying glass
spoon, fork, knife
utility knife (kabar i have in mind)
wool beanie
sniper veil
any warm undies i should know of?
long bow
(what kind of arrows, heads should i use?)
boot push blade
machete
tarp (does it come with strings?)
(should i carry a lightweight hatchet?)
sharpening stone (any suggestions? i dont know much about them)
fishing line (i will need the knowledge to make my own supplies sooner or later)
(should i have a mutlitool?)

[Beo]

You forgot the pack mule... lol...

[explodingearth]

yay im a tendOrfoot!

[explodingearth]

all that crap will fit in my pack my tarp and wool blanket i forgot will roll up tied to the top or botton of my bag or wherever. weapons will hang on me

[Beo]

550 para cord
cooking pot - WHY
cup
binocular - WHY
baton - NO NEED
alive pack - WTF IS THAT
magensium OR steel and flint... which is best? STEEL & FLINT
compass
thin metal survival blanket... possible uses? - NOPE
microfiber towwl (bathing, drying, blanket roofing etc.)
magnifying glass - NOPE
spoon, fork, knife - GET A MILITARY MESS KIT YOU CAN COOK IN THIS
utility knife (kabar i have in mind)
wool beanie - WHAT'S THE TEMP.
sniper veil - NOPE
any warm undies i should know of? - YEAH THERMAL
long bow - GREAT CHOICE
(what kind of arrows, heads should i use?) CEDAR ARROWS AND ZWIKI BROADHEADS
boot push blade - NOPE
machete - NOPE (HATCHET)
tarp (does it come with strings?) - 7'X'7 SEW IN LEATHER STRAPS
(should i carry a lightweight hatchet?) COVERED IT
sharpening stone (any suggestions? i dont know much about them)
fishing line (i will need the knowledge to make my own supplies sooner or later)
(should i have a mutlitool?) YES ALWAYS GOOD FOR STARTING OUT

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION BUT I ALWAYS PACK LIGHT, LOOK AT WEEKENDS COMING TO SEE WHAT I'M TAKNG FOR A THREE DAY OVERNIGHT CAMPING TRIP THIS WEEKEND (GUNS FOR HUNTING)

[explodingearth]

you shouldnt kill for fun. rice and oats are your friend

[explodingearth]

what chance would i have against a bear or pshyco without being properlly armed? i could seriously **** up a bear with a large baton and machete. without them i will get OWNED

[Beo]

The bear will own your a** don't even think about it, the baton is waste, go to Weekends Coming" thread in Primitive section and look at my load out.

[owl_girl]

Mag glasses make awesome fire starters on a sunny day.
Magnesium is slightly easier to start a fire with but if you live where there’s a lot of natural flint laying around I’d go with natural flint and steel but if not I’d go with Magnesium, you could always take both since there small. I personally think a cooking pot is a good idea. A machete is not proper defense from a bear. Those are my thoughts.

[Beo]

Hey Bearbait, can I film the batle of Explodingearth vs. Bear and play it on wilderness battles by Beowulf65 lol... lol...

[explodingearth]

dude i could bash a grizzlies skull in with one full force whack. how is that a waste?? you might choose to be defenseless but i dont. also they are to quickly kill my prey. arrows, boom concussion and head chop. dead with minimal pain

[trax]

ease up on him bro, he's trying Serioulsy, double e, we've had this conversation how many times I don't know, your chances of winning ANY fight with a bear are pretty much nil.

A fine diamond sharpening stone or combination hard and soft Arkansas stones are good choices. You don't need a snipers veil, I'm not a bowhunter, but if you go to the guys that sell that stuff, they'll give you good advice. That little tiny "metal" survival blanket...spread it out on the floor of your tent, shiniest side up. Lose the baton and keep plenty of the 550 paracord, when you have to cut lengths, make sure you cut lengths that are re-usable, it'll be all the string/rope you'll need. Fishing line----take some hooks too.

About your clothes....camouflage only matters to human, worry more about the insulation capabilities than the color. Hatchet or machete, not both, my vote's with the hatchet.

Boot push blade...totally unnecessary. Clothes don't have to be really expensive, a few layers of cheap clothes are going to keep you warmer than one layer of some really high end name brand stuff. Layer up, natural materials (wool, cotton) pretty much work the best. You never mentioned what you're wearing for boots, waterproof and insulated is essential in bad weather anywhere in North America and keep plenty of thick wool socks handy.

I agree with owl_girl on the magnifying glass

[explodingearth]

push blade would be quick defense for a human if needed. cool trax, im still working on my clothes list :P

[Beo]

Awe okay I'll ease up... I was only joking round wit him Anyway those are all good choices made by Trax... hmmm, sounds familiar to what I said. EE listen I'm only kidding with you cause I know ya can take my joking (always have) without getting mad, dude ya have come so far since your first post and it warms my lil ole heart to know that maybe some of banter and info might have helped ya. I just don't want ya carrying anything into the bush ya don't need as it adds the weight.
WHAT IS THE ENVIRONMENT your heading into this time.

[Beo]

EE, question are there bears in your region where you camp? If your in the swamps of Florida aren't your worries gators and snakes? Just asking as I'm not sure of your surroundings.

[explodingearth]

for now just woods around my home. but i alrady said its the western colorado mountains

[trax]

Double e....if you really really really really are threatened by a bear--shoot it. Lose the baton dude, and as for wild psycho rapist killers from hell invading your campsite, you're armed and have knives! Lose the boot blade dude, trust Uncle Trax on this stuff.

Beo, of course our advice was similar..two geniuses...one room...go figure.

LOLOLOLOL.