Originally Posted by Rick
Yup... I've done that too! Except mine was on black ice on a sidewalk... damn... I fell so hard that I couldn't even get up real quick to make sure no one saw me... yup... a little ol' lady stopped her car to make sure I was OK... sigh... wish I could move that fast on PURPOSE!
from trax...
"HA! Polite? You been readin the other threads around here brother? What makes you special?? PO-LITE..hmmph "
(wildography: LMAO)
A recurve bow around 45lbs is more accurate and penetrates deeper than a .38. But, it's a rare archer that can snap shoot with much accuracy and he still can't realistically get a second shot off even if he is quick. Make sure the tip of the limbs don't hit door frames or something else that would throw the arrow wild. You'd have to walk around the house a pull the bow back in different areas and positions. You have to know how to thread the bow and feet between certain obstacles just like you should do each time in a familiar blind or in a tree. That's a normal mistake for traditional archers who need the deer to be close. Like others have said, you have to practice. And like others have said, there's not much that's scarier than the racking of a pump shotgun.
Self defense is indeed a major area of concern today. I believe its never too late to familiarize yourself with the latest techniques and equipments. There are numerous resources out there I found defendingusa.com particularly useful.
Smith.ross - you are correct. It is also never too late to head over to the Introduction section and tell us a bit about yourself. Thanks.
Here's the deal on self-defense for me, anyone comes at me and I just say "Wait! Ol WV Coot is my DAD!" and they stop in their tracks, humbly apologize and run away as quickly as they can.
some fella confronted me the other day and asked "What's your problem?" So I told him, "I don't have a problem I am a problem"
Or they're so busy rolling on the ground laughing at you that you have time to just walk away...
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
Dogs are not my whole life, but they make my life whole.
You need to be very aware of your backstop if you want to use a bow for self defense. I.E., make sure your wife or child isn't behind the person you're shooting.
8-10 inches on a muscly deer might not seem like a lot, but 8-10 inches on a person could go right through. And I don't really know about the stopping power of an arrow if it hits in the arm or stomach, in other words if you miss, which you might. Then you have to factor in how quickly you can renock and shoot. Can you get another arrow off faster than someone that wants to kill you can close a 20ft distance?
Statistically, and these are statistics based not only on stopping power, number of rounds fired, and rounds that fully penetrate and exit, the 9mm jacketed hollowpoint is the safest round to use for home and self defense. I said, SAFEST, guys, not best. You all have opinions on what the individual best rounds are.
The 9mm jacketed hollow has the least number of complete pass-throughs with stopping power comparable to a .40 hardball. Rounds are inexpensive and you can sure fire multiple shots much quicker than you can with arrows, if your opponent decides he doesn't want to go down because he's taken PCP or is high on meth.
I would definitely suggest the 9mm over a bow and arrow based solely on safety and your ability to fire several shots within a very short period time with minimal manipulation of your weapon. Incidents requiring handgun actions happen VERY fast, I would definitely bank on them happening much faster than would make a bow and arrow effective. You could empty an entire clip in about the time you could pick up your bow, get an arrow nocked, draw, aim and release.
Another thing to consider is the legal aspect. If you had enough time to get your bow, get your arrow set, draw, etc... how come you didn't have enough time to escape? How come you didn't have time enough to call the police? And you can guarantee that is what a lawyer will be asking you when you go to court.
Hard times don't last -- Hard people do.
Careful there pine_sap, he didn't get hold by accident....
some fella confronted me the other day and asked "What's your problem?" So I told him, "I don't have a problem I am a problem"
That ought to work, but if everyone used it, the BG's would start thinking justHere's the deal on self-defense for me, anyone comes at me and I just say "Wait! Ol WV Coot is my DAD!" and they stop in their tracks, humbly apologize and run away as quickly as they can.
"how many Kids does that Ol Coot have"
Surivial is just an unplanned adventure when you are prepared
obviously he never got hold, or he'd be missing a hand.
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
Dogs are not my whole life, but they make my life whole.
While your advice on knowing your backstop is sound, I don't think Jericho is too worried about his wife and kids....he's 15.
That's just like you Remy....getting all optimistic and stuff.
Nope
I ain't missing nothing, you kids should know better. You just won't learn that age and treachery go good together and not giving a hoot helps.obviously he never got hold, or he'd be missing a hand.
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he's too old
to fight... he'll just kill you.
Duly noted, hoss.
Apologies to Jericho.
Hard times don't last -- Hard people do.
If you want a reality check on self defense and how screwed up our politicians are, watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis
I know what hunts you.
Im with Crash on this one, prevention is your best bet. Also if your mom is of the same mind set maybe you all could take weapons training together. I am in a profession where it is necesary to clear houses, and a shot gun wins every time. However like Crash said there are things that you can do to not make your home so appealing to intruders. I like your mindset its great that you are looking after your family.
Get a big dog and a pump shotgun loaded with 00 or 000 buck shot. It WILL put a man down. Point in the genral direction and fire.... As far as a knife attack, if your weapon is not drawn I will bet a motivated person, and it is not his first rodeo, can cover 20 feet with a kinife and do serious harm before you can draw, aim, and fire a handgun.
I have a [ahem] a troublesome problem when I am out and about, trying to be quiet. My stomach growls loudly.
Now after all of you stop laughing; this has been going on for years. I have tried every home remedy, Dr. exams, and eating while out in the hunt.
I have lost deer shots, had people react with astonishment to the sound.
What do the military folks do to quiet themselves?
The Doc's tell me that it is not uncommon. Does anyone here have this problem, and what do you do for it?
There's an over the counter med that may help called Gas-X.I have a [ahem] a troublesome problem when I am out and about, trying to be quiet. My stomach growls loudly.
Now after all of you stop laughing; this has been going on for years. I have tried every home remedy, Dr. exams, and eating while out in the hunt.
I have lost deer shots, had people react with astonishment to the sound.
What do the military folks do to quiet themselves?
The Doc's tell me that it is not uncommon. Does anyone here have this problem, and what do you do for it?
Thanks for the comeback; but I have tried Gas-X. No luck.
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