Pot, your thoughts?

[crashdive123]

In my experiences the people that smoke pot, are the nicest, most helpful people.

...however, in response to a fairly innocent comment you said....

Get off you're high horse.

I really don't care what you do as long as it does not harm anybody else. If that's your thing, then that's your thing. I would however question your comment

good to clear your head every now then

It's also important to remember that when you ask for opinions, that's exactly what you will get. Some will agree, some will not and others still will have no opinion. If you do not like the answer, don't ask the question.

[wildWoman]

I don't see the point in pot, booze, other drugs. I chose to live my life where and how I really enjoy it and would hate to dull or alter my perception of the wilderness that surrounds me for one nanosecond.

Nobody's getting forced into living their lives the way they do, it's purely personal choice for all of us in the western world, provided we have no mental or severe physical illness/handicap.

[Dennis K.]

Bike Rider: We've asked nicely for you to tell us a bit about yourself in the Introduction section. You have not. Kinda like coming into my house, helping yourself to the food and not so much as saying hello.
Farking Rude.

So: here's what I can guess from your wild-*** posts.
You are a pot head looking for someone to tell you it's OK
You think you have a life because you are in a trade school.
You have the maturity of an opinionated child that thinks you can ask for opinions, then insult those that don't agree with you.
You seek to align yourself with the 100,000 "nice people" of Thunder Bay, and we are just supposed to believe you?
You think it's OK to break laws because it "Clears your head." I'm a professional musician. I've worked with guys who smoke pot/drink/shoot up/snort. They say it clears their head and they think they sound great - and they do in their own mind.
Some of those who post here have had their lives in the hands of others and have stated clearly FROM EXPERIENCE how stoners come across to those around them, yet you still want us to pat you on the back and say "Cool, Dude!"
My advice is to take your pipe, shove it in deeply, and smoke your own crap rather than asking a bunch of internet strangers to coddle your poorly thought out and misguided opinions.

[Rick]

Perhaps you should rephrase from "where I come from" to "those I hang around with". I doubt everyone does weed. But I don't know everyone where you live so I'm not an expert.

What I am an expert on is stuff I put in my body. I'm with Hopeak on this one. I don't need to put chemicals in my body unless it's for a specific disease. And yes, that includes alcohol. What's so cool about getting a buzz on? Is there a reason you need to alter your perception or you mood? The same holds true for alcohol in my book, too. Don't understand it. But you keep posting your location and your habit and there's a good chance you might just need Ken's services so you had better be nice to him. That's my opinion.

[klkak]

Originally Posted by BicycleRider
What are your thoughts on pot? How often do you settle in and have a nice relaxing toke?

Originally Posted by Ken
Hmmmm. Interesting that you would ask this question in your first post on the Forum.

However, it's great to have guys like you around. I call it JOB SECURITY!

Originally Posted by klkak
I thought it was "Hella" clever!!!

If you keep making comments like that your time on this forum is short lived! Guaranteed

Originally Posted by Alpine_Sapper
Uh, what? What did he say that was a "violation", missa offissa?

ZOOM
(That was the gest of the conversation passing you in both lanes)

[chiye tanka]

I'm with Ken, you're a client. BTW, in my line of work, I've run into both good and bad potheads. Personally I don't have a problem with pot, it's all the other drugs out there, but pot is still illegal.
You asked the question, so don't get your panties in a wad when you get responses.

[doug1980]

I never used it nor do I ever want too. The sawmill I worked at had a lot of pot heads, smoked it at lunch time every day. Then one day one of the guys who was stoned accidently cut another man with a chainsaw. Not focused on his job. My brother started smoking pot last year and I rarely talk to him now. Also one of my close friends mother has smoked pot all her life, pretty much, and she is a slush. Barely remembers him half the time and has had 3 strokes, she's 49. So you can't tell me it affects people differently we all have the same brain and it destroys them all. But you aint hurting me so keep doing it.

[gryffynklm]

As a survival question.

The bad thing about pot is that munchies creates a problem with your food stores.
If you chew some up and put it on a bee sting or bug bite it will relieve the itching.
They say pot smoke will keep mosquitos away (I don't know if its the smoke that keeps them away or that you don't feel the bite.)

So I hear ahh.... I don't actually know.... Realy

Oh ya, one more. if you are patient you can make rope from the plant if you strip the leaves.

[Ken]

They say pot smoke will keep mosquitos away (I don't know if its the smoke that keeps them away or that you don't feel the bite.)

It keeps 'em away 'cause they get the munchies, too, and they just figure that a bag of chips is better that your ankle at that moment.

[trax]

Bicycle Rider, in my day I've smoked a lot of pot. More than most I would say, and eventually....for most of the reasons mentioned here by others, I gave it up and that was years ago. Whether you smoke or not is entirely up to you and I truly, truly don't give a sh*t, but I CANNOT STAND someone popping in here, asking for people to answer a question and then start whining at the answers. Did you come here to look for a fight with non-smokers? If not, shut the he!! up and accept their opinions. If you did, take it somewhere else it isn't what this forum is for.

[Dennis K.]

I would say that we scared him off, but he's probably too baked to remember to check his email.
Sheesh - and I didn't even get into my opinions on da ganja. . .

[trax]

oh yeah, and sometimes smoking weed makes you forget what you wanted to say

and sometimes smoking weed makes you forget what you wanted to say, too. Oh yeah, and sometimes, ...hey why do people's eyes always glass over when I'm talking to them? (now what was I going to say? Oh yeah!....)

[Sarge47]

Since this thread does not pertain to Wilderness Survival & promotes drug use; plus the fact we have young-uns on here kiss it good-bye! I'm locking it down. Insult any more members & your next, understand?

[Chris]

I'm surprised at this discussion, you're all focusing on lifestyle. Lifestyle is beside the point. Lets talk about marijuana and hemp shall we?

They're harmless, yes, harmless, herbs. The "200 times more dangerous" than cigarettes line is propaganda. Cannabis smoke is not inherently more dangerous than tobacco smoke, smoke is smoke. That pack of cigs you buy though has been treated and made in such a way to help remove some of the bad junk. That joint you roll has not. If marijuana was made legal, the problem of there being no filtered-joints in existence would evaporate. Additionally, people smoke 2 packs of cigs a day, as opposed to say 2 joints. Big difference in volume. And there are other ways to use the drug than just smoking.

It is a very mild drug medically speaking, there is not a single medically documented case of anyone ever in the history of mankind overdosing on it. In fact, nicotine is far more toxic and an overdose threat than THC. Nicotine actually, gram for gram, is one of the most toxic things out there.

Marijuana is not chemically addictive. People can claim you get addicted to the lifestyle, but science tells us that our brains do not develop a chemical dependency to THC. Unlike alcohol, or nicotine, or caffeine, or sleeping pills, etc etc etc. No risk of chemical dependency.

No one gets high and beats their wife, or gets high and drives 90 miles an hour on the freeway. They might get high and screw their wife, or get high and drive 30 miles an hour on the freeway. Contrast that with alcohol, which is legal and a factor in 50% of all crimes/accidents/etc.

There was a study showing that marijuana did not impede the judgement center of the brain, nor reaction times to a large degree. I do not recall which or where it was though.

Marijuana does not cause brain damage, it prevents it. Two drugs, marinol and cannibidiol are given to stroke patients and others at risk of brain damage to protect their brains. Both are made from marijuana. The "study" showing it causes brain damage was done on monkeys in the 70s, was not peer reviewed, and no one has been able to repeat the results.

Marijuana is a gateway drug because you have to go to a drug dealer to buy it. If you could buy it at Rite-aid, it'd be a gateway to chips and soda.

Marijuana is a billion dollar industry, most of which is not taxed, or regulated, and that cash keeps violent criminal gangs afloat. I'd rather that cash go to fund education, enforcement of real crimes, and farmers. Not to gangs, smugglers, and drug cartels. How about you?

The illegalization of marijuana was mostly originally done out of political need, the tobacco and cotton lobbies had more money. Yes, cotton, what does cotton have to do with anything?

Hemp is also illegal to grow, hemp is a superior fiber for almost any product, the hemp plant is renewable, grows quickly, and produces one of the longest (Read strongest) fibers in the plant kingdom. You can buy hemp rope here, but farmers aren't allowed to grow it really. King Cotton said no. Hemp is better than cotton, better than most woods for many applications, and can be grown with less of an environmental impact.

Meanwhile the DEA spends tens of millions of dollars (I've heard as high as 300m) yearly flying around spotting and destroying naturally growing and unnaturally growing hemp and marijuana plants in the wilderness. What a waste of cash.

Marijuana is really healthy when eaten, having more vitamin E than garlic for instance. Very very high in antioxidants. Also, it has been used as a medicine for thousands of years, just think maybe new drugs could be unlocked if any scientist could study it, and not just one that jumps through myriad federal hoops.

So yes, legalize it. Regulate it, tax it. Take money away from criminals, give it to farmers. Free up law enforcement resources to go after real crimes and real drugs. Let farmers grow hemp.

[Sarge47]

Since Chris doesn't seem to have a problem with this thread I've re-opened it.
For the record I've smoked weed back in my younger days but preferred alcohol...lots an' lots of alcohol. Now-a-days I don't use either. I don't do any illeagal drugs at all, but know people who do;:cocain: we don't get along to good I guess.

[Chris]

Ya, the discussion does belong. Much of this site is herblore and primitive skills, and marijuana fits both those. Native americans used the cannibis plant for a myriad of uses.

[Dennis K.]

No one gets high and beats their wife, or gets high and drives 90 miles an hour on the freeway. They might get high and screw their wife, or get high and drive 30 miles an hour on the freeway. Contrast that with alcohol, which is legal and a factor in 50% of all crimes/accidents/etc.

I wonder what the Law Enforcement guys on here have to say about that. The ones that I know tend to say that it really doesn't make any difference what the smoked/drank when it comes to picking up body parts off the highway.

Methinks you've been reading too much propaganda.

[Sarge47]

Ya, the discussion does belong. Much of this site is herblore and primitive skills, and marijuana fits both those. Native americans used the cannibis plant for a myriad of uses.

I believe they also used Peyote.

[Dennis K.]

Medicinal use for cancer patients is a whole 'nuther story. I'm all for it.

[ride_gnu]

This is a very interesting subject, with many interesting responses, so far I feel "Chris" has taken the cake. The information most people have about pot is horribly wrong. I have smoked pot for the last 10 years, as much as once a day in some cases. I am also a 3rd year engineering student who already has a degree of technology in Civil Engineering. I do other drugs as well. However at the same time, I do not drink alcohol or caffeine, do not eat food that is bad for me, and I do not waste time sitting on my couch and watching tv.

In my opinion pot is a drug, so is Macdonalds, Acid, TV, Cocaine, caffeine, MDMA, Nicotine, and the list goes on forever. If you can kick all of those well than you my friend are free. Oh and don't forget MONEY!!!!!!!

In the end your choice is what you choose to do, and I from personal experince I would much rather hang out with the kid on pot, mushrooms, acid, or anything, who would rather listen to the forest than sit in Macdonalds and eat a big mac.