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    Default 12 day growing season

    what can a person grow in the high desert and
    with a growing season of 12 days?
    we have lots of heat but also the nites drop to cold.
    we have talked with our neighbors but they too are sort of learning
    by trial and error themselves.
    they have green houses.so i know we will be building a green house or
    two in the future.
    i do want to plant sea berry plants.
    has anyone has any experiences with those?
    mostly i figure so far we will be able to grow lettuce.
    lots of lettuce but i want to grow more of a variety of veggies.

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    Sprouts or perhaps radishes.
    so the definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law and you want me to believe that somehow more laws make less criminals?

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    I guess I have to ask....Are you sure you mean 12 days growing season?...Not 102 days?

    Here is one for short season 110 days high altitude.

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    Only 12 frost free nights? Yikes!

    Sea Berries?
    You need a male and a female plant to get berries on only one of them. I'm sure the guys here will love to know that you can have 7 to 10 females for every male plant. It isn't a one to one. And they can be quite aggressive in their growth habit and thornage. A mature tree grows 10' high and 10' wide and can have 1" thorns, usually mixed along with the fruit, which makes picking exciting. I had a pair of these at a former house location. They weren't very happy so I didn't have any trouble with it. But I've seen em get pretty big. I see Raintree Nursery has a few different cultivars and sells them identified as male and female (I buy a lot of things from them.) You might see if they have any suggestions for growing them where you live.
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    12 days.hee hee.
    thanks lowkey for all the info. great info on sea berry trees.

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    ok now i am looking and searching the web more and found this article.
    gardening in snow country.
    it gives a longer growing season for the area we are in.
    But it says its hard to grow vegetable gardens cause it can freeze anytime.
    so now i am seriously starting to see what i can grow there and how.
    http://chiloquin.com/services-organi...ons/gardening/

    s you can see – about 6 weeks between the last hard freeze of spring and the first hard freeze of fall (that’s 27-28 degrees F). Not much time for those heat-loving veggies, but it can be done with a few tricks. One of the biggest problems we face as vegetable gardeners here is that even when it does warm up, the nights stay very cool – usually in the mid-40′s, sometimes dipping into the 30′s and sometimes up into the 50′s. Given that tomatoes do not set fruit if the night-time temperature is below 55 degrees, it’s a miracle that some gardeners here can grow them and get fruit!
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    It looks like you are in zone 6A. Looking at your average temperatures you shouldn't have any problem late June through August. I would think you would have much closer to 100 days than 12. Go to or call your county extension office and talk to them. They can tell you exactly what your growing season is and what plants will do best in your location. The Klamath County Extension Office is supported by Oregon State University. Here's their web page:

    http://oregonstate.edu/dept/kbrec/

    Your county extension office is a great resource. They generally have loads of information on their web site and the Master Garderners are a wealth of information as is the local agent.

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    Lettuces and cabbage should be ok, peas probably.
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    Rick.thanks.
    i always saw the 12 day link.threw me for a loop.
    now i am looking and searching to find more of what i can grow before we make the big move.
    i have even seen this area say we have one month of growing time.so i have been confused on this.
    this is why i posted.to see what others thought or knew.
    mostly i am seeing we shall truly need to make us some green houses.
    it is never 55 degrees ever in the nite time.so the article said tomatoe plants dont set flowers if it does not get up to at least 55 degrees.
    when we were there last week.it was suppose to be 38 degrees some of the morns.
    they were wrong.it went to 40 in the nite the day was so hot.96 degrees.
    soo this is gonna be tricky growings.
    thats a good idea on the oregon extenstion office.i am hoping they have our area in it.
    i am sure they will.i am checking it out.

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    thanks 1stimestar-i think those are probably pretty right.

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    well i think we maybe are zone 5a...

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    You can still grow without a green house. You just need to cover them during frost warnings. Some pvc to make a hoop frame and plastic sheeting that can be throw over easily is quite popular here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1stimestar View Post
    You can still grow without a green house. You just need to cover them during frost warnings. Some pvc to make a hoop frame and plastic sheeting that can be throw over easily is quite popular here.
    hi 1stimestar...yes. that is what the neighbors are doing too.
    i wil have to check them out more.
    dont want to be a pest at our woods with the neighbors.
    one fella took me and hubby thru his garden.it was still early and things were just coming up.
    they had a bit of this and that.sparse.
    this fella was cultivating the currants out there but i did not know if he dug up the bush .he had gathered wild strawberries too and was trying to get berries out of them.
    he had alot of lettuces.
    soo i am getting ideas now.soon we wil be out there.we have a huge meadow.i want to plant fruit trees out there and nut trees.
    i may have to have alot of gardening close by the cabin cause of so many animals wanting to munch on everything.
    some fella out there has been growing some kind of fruit trees for years.one of them i noticed had no leaves.
    they build fences around the trees cause of the deers.
    it will be a whole kind of new gardening.we are in the portland,oregon area now and its easy gardening.
    we have blueberries,raspberries,strawberries,rhubarb,plums ,apples,grapes and a pretty nice veggie garden.
    in our woods.it will be a whole new uncertain learning experience at first.
    fighting the cold that can happen any time.fighting all the wild life.
    it will be interesting.thank u.

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    beets and swiss chard are hardy to the cold
    so the definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law and you want me to believe that somehow more laws make less criminals?

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    I think a green house would work the best for your location
    this way you will have more control over soils, fertilizer, water,
    you can even install lighting, heating........the list goes on & on.............
    Soon the whole world will be silky smooth

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    You can also check for concrete remesh at your local Lowes. You can pick up 3.5X7 feet remesh for less than $8 and form a half circle over your plants. Stick one end in the ground on one side the the other end on the other side of the plant then lay plastic sheeting over it. 3 or 4 of those can do a pretty long row and give you room for taller plants like peppers. That would be a lot cheaper than a green house and give you the same benefits. Of course the longer the remesh the taller your "greenhouse". This is sort of the idea.

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    That's really nice Rick but what do you grow in the gravel?
    so the definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law and you want me to believe that somehow more laws make less criminals?

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    Crabgrass.

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    I've made hoop houses by driving re-bar stakes into the ground. leave a foot or so of re-bar sticking out of the ground. Hammer in two rows and then take a 3/4 inch by 10 foot cpvc pipe and stick one end over the re-bar and pull the other end down and stick it o the other re-bar. Make a row of them and you're all set for covering.
    so the definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law and you want me to believe that somehow more laws make less criminals?

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