I've been looking for an economical heavy duty, hard wearing, fast drying cargo pocket pants.
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I've been looking for an economical heavy duty, hard wearing, fast drying cargo pocket pants.
I prefer a 100% nylon pant like Columbia convertible pants. You can pick them up for $30-$40 depending on product style and where you purchase them. The obvious benefit in summer is you can convert them to short pants. That can be a plus in winter, too, if the legs get wet you can remove them and still have a pair of drawers on while the legs dry. Although nylon dries pretty quickly. They aren't as quiet as wool but they aren't as heavy either.
They may not be the best choice for you in the "far north" but for my temperatures I can generally count on them and a nice pair of wool long johns to keep me warm.
I prefer military BDU pants.
SJJ,
I am setting here in my new 5.11 pants as I read your post. Second time I've worn them, and I have to agree they are very comfey. They are the brushed nylon type. I got them new with tags still on them at my local Goodwill for $6. They were bought with canoe / kayaking in mind. Your question has been on my mind a lot as of late. BDU's have always been my drawers of choice. These 5.11 pants will surely get some field trials.
I've been looking at something called Firehose pants from Duluth Trading Company.
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/c...cessor=content
Sorry, don't want to sound like an advertisement but, every thing I've bought from them is Rock Solid. The Guaranty on these makes them very interesting!
But I'm on the fence, I've heard others remark on the trouble with wet canvas.
I guess I may have to order up a pair and give a review.
On the subject of wool, I've been wearing a set of Columbia wool camo cargo pants for hunting this year. Just like pajamas in the woods.:)
I didn't overheat as much as one might think.
I'm with Crash on this one, I don't wear shorts...ever! It should be against the law for men to wear shorts after a certain age! :innocent: BTW, I get my BDU's at yard sales really cheap: anywhere from fifty cents up to a few dollars. If they're good enough for our boys in the military, they're good enough for me. I also 2nd Mcguyver on The Duluth Trading Company! There stuff looks about as rugged as you can get! :cool2:Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Canvass, Cotton Ripstop, Cotton Twill, and Poly/Cotton blends are all made of ... cotton. Are ya'll comfortable with wearing it the winter given the problem with wet cotton clothing?
those duluth trading company pants are made of 10 or 12 oz duck cotton which is heavy and takes forever to dry i like carhartts got some on now
I have been wearing a Duluth Fire Hose vest for a few years now. Fall, Winter, Spring. It has held up very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgyver
Carharts are cotton duck as well. I wore Carharts every winter I worked outside and loved them. The coat and hood were just great, too. But I don't think I'd wear them to the woods.
Every day I get up and put on a pair of Pants. If I my still alive at bedtime which is 8:45 PM, then said pants "were" my survival pants. I don't own any special survival pants. I guess maybe a snow machine suit is the closest thing I have to special "Survival" Panties. Real men (in the north woods) wear 100% cotton 14 oz. Carhartt "Logger" pants. And when you get wet, well......you just man-up and deal with. Girlie-men might have special panties, for when they "play" pretend survival camping, with their new survival trinkets. Real-men get up and go to work, outdoors, everyday, for real, not pretend. Everyday is about survival. O'yea there are two "T"s in Carhartt. :):):) OK....so I girlie-up and wear flannel lined Carhartt's in the winter, you got a problem with that......?:innocent::innocent::innocent:
Can't go wrong with these:
http://www.us.depend.com/male/
I've head hey can save your life. (or at least face)
I am for my winters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Benesse, Around here the "Whole" world is my urinal.
No wonder you're dragging your feet on the outhouse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sourdough
The Navy uniforms pants (my only experience) have the Woodland camo hot weather - 50% Nylon, 50% Cotton Riplon. The Woodland camo cold weather pants 50% Nylon, 50% Cotton Twill. The Desert camo 50% Cotton, 50% Nylon Ripstop Poplin. Not sure about the off brands and look alikes. The only link I use is to the Navy Exchange Uniform Shop - I believe (not sure) only active duty and retirees can access it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sjj
The "best" choice of survival pant (or shirt or any other garment) is largely going to depend on where you are and what part of the year it is.
Here in the Rocky Mountain West I really like those convertible Columbia pants mentioned by Rick during the late Spring, Summer, and early Fall. Mine are from their "Titanium" line. For the rest of the year I am very partial to wool. LL Bean, Army/Navy Surplus, and Columbia have all proven excellent in conditions from 80*F to -20*F. I'm certainly glad I'm not in sjj's position of not being able to wear wool. I have found no synthetic materials that even come close to matching wool's performance.
I do also sometimes wear cotton, but only when I'm pretty sure I'm not going to get wet or when a quick change of clothes is immediately available if I do.
Try BDUs from Propper
Ha!.... What a pansy....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sourdough
Just playin...... I like 'em too
Other then Carharts the pants I wear the most are Wrangler "Riggs Work Wear" (Ranger Pants).
They have roomy side cargo pockets with flaps and concealed snaps. Reinforced knees with bottom vent. Right side hammer loop. 1000 Denier Cordura® lined back pockets. Patented leather tape measure reinforcement on right front pocket. 13-inch deep front pockets. Constructed from 10 oz. 100% cotton ripstop fabric with our exclusive room2move™ fit: Improved fit in seat, thigh, knee and bottom opening. Action gusset.
You can get them lined or unlined and in 3 or 4 different colors. Best of all they around $40.00 a pair. I order mine from Cabelas.
In summer, these or my old BDU/DCU pants are my knock around the woods/house pants. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c....aspx?a=467732 I like these Greman pants better for the woods though. they are a bit thicker so the briers/blackberries don't tear me up to much when I'm hunting birds.
In the winter/wet weather these are my knock about the woods pants.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c....aspx?a=580522
No cargo pockets though.
I wish I could find wool bib overals with cargo pockets that cost less than a few hundred dollars.
Nylon and cotton are too flamable and cotton has the negative bonus of being absorbent and slow drying. Western wilderness EMTs call synthetic materials "shrink wrap."
Ouch! Well, that made me rethink my nylon pants. Thanks for pointing out something I hadn't considered. I have some wool pants but find them heavy. I can't imagine how much they'd weigh wet. I'll have to look into those that aflineman posted. They looked pretty good.
5.11 pants are great. I wear them almost daily when not in court. They are good for the office or the woods and very comfortable. Sort of the "Swiss Army Knife" of pants. You can dress them up a bit or dress them down. They DO NOT hold up as long as BDU pants but alot longer than nearly anything else. If you carry a bunch of stuff in the cargo pockets daily, the bottom of the pocket at the pleet will start to get a hole from my tobacco can. Also the edge of the pant leg at the bottom will start to fray with alot of use from rubbing on my Rocky boots. It takes a good while to happen but it does happen. Like I said I have a bunch of them and wear mine almost daily though. They do in fact dry much faster than mil spec BDU pants. I'll continue to wear them until they stop making them. Stay safe.
On further reflection I remembered that the EMTs said that about polypro longjohns. But nylon is indeed very flamable. Nomex is indeed fire resistant. Trouble is that just make coveralls, boots, gloves and hats. I've never seen pants made from it, except firefighter pants and those are very heavy.Quote:
Originally Posted by hoosierarcher
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Originally Posted by Nativedude
Not in the Florida summer it doesn't!!!!!!
COTTON KILLS!!!!!
It may be the MANLY thing to wear cotton, but how MANLY you gonna be DEAD???!!! :dead: :dead: :dead:
Personally, I don't wear cotton. I wear wool. I have lightweight wool shorts for the summer and light and heavyweight wool pants for the winter. Yes I said "wool shorts!" I made them from some wool cargo pants I picked up at the surplus store in Washington. Had them for ten+ years now. They wear like iron and show no signs of wear or wearing out. Unlike cotton jeans or the duck cotton shorts/pants.
And the legs that I cut off the pants I made into leggings and arm gauntlets for wearing in the winter. They work G-R-E-A-T!!!!!
One of the major down sides to nylon (nylon blends) is that they will burn and/or melt and can, and have melted to peoples skin, causing severe burns. Remember, nylon is a petroleum based product!
No Crash it doesn't, but I was directing that statement to all the "NORTHERNERS" that state they wear cotton "NO MATTER WHAT!"Quote:
Crashdive123 wrote:"Not in the Florida summer it doesn't!!!!!!"
I know - just giving you a hard time. I never wore cotton when I was dealing with the cold.
A pair of bermuda shorts black socks and sandals
Mine are 65 / 35 blend also. Don't worry. They hold up great. I am just hard on pants. Stay safe, Brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by sjj
HK - You can wear Bermuda shorts on the Introduction page, too.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=7813
Well...uh.....you.....I mean......Quote:
Originally Posted by sjj
They do make light weight wool fabrics that are suitable for warmer temps short of the dog days of Summer.
I looked at 511s and preferred Tru-Spec 24/7 pants.
Staying cool in South Florida's humidity is a special task. LOL
I bought these because the had great pocket management. I carry my wallet and iPhone in one pocket. Got a job gun in the pocket above that. I carry a second phone (work) in the left cargo and a digital camera in the same pocket. Keys and a SOG PEII in the left pocket. I also carry a waved Spyderco Endura in my right back pocket.
I would like the pants for work cause they dry quick. The ONLY problem is that they have some kinda coating for stains that can make you sweat on a still day.
We hunt in knee deep water in 98 degree temps. I usually wear BDU, have some really airy camos and then Bug Tamers. I wear the bug tamers with nothing but my boxers. But, bug tamers ain't got the pockets.
I meant to link the pants.
http://www.botachtactical.com/t247.html
Also the Waved Endura will not fit the knife pockets. I can slide the SOG in on my weak side. But, I prefer the index of a EDC so I carry pens., pencils and markers in the knife pockets.
Just thought I would toss my two cents in. Personally, i don't use cotton at all when in the backcountry from bad experiences that are easily remedied by using different material...sure I use Carhartt when I was working in excavation or carpentry, or logging. It is rugged, even though I have had some blow out on me. The difference is I was always near a vehicle or building in case of emergency. I prefer wool base layers as opposed to synthetic(having used both). However when i am in the backcountry in winter, I use my mountaineering gear which is some sort of synthetic blends. (Outdoor Research, Eddie Bauer First Ascent) For fall and spring I love to use my Rail Riders Weatherpants. If you are not aware of Railriders I would give them a look. Also, Cragghoppers are similar to rail riders, and they are based out of the UK, I think. Carhartt now makes synthetic versions of their clothing line, as well. My carhartt extreme winter bibs are all synthetic. (cordura..) They are really warm. I live in upstate NY, a very moist environment. Ice storms, etc... so often times you are wet. I can't afford to wear cotton in this climate. However I know plenty of people who wear jeans and a t-shirt to hike in the summer.. and I have as well..I have many times myself. But, I prefer not to , because I sweat a lot.. and cotton is not comfortable when soak, enter chafing.
Hunter63 saying Hey and Welcome.....
Maybe head on over to the intro section, as you are referring to your location and other details that have no frame of reference....
Thanks.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...-Introductions
Cabellas has really good sales fairly frequently.
I bought a $60 pair if guide pants for $15, plus a litle shipping, earlier this year.
Always good to check if you're looking for something.
very good point jfeather! also the various hiking outdoor stores have sales... Like EMS which is a local store for us REI, sierra trading post has insane sales all the time, when i lived in Cody, WY i loved going to that store.. the only problem was things go fast , so what they have in stock can vary..
My next set of ourdoor pants are some dark green carpenter pants. Ive seen Dickies at WalMart and Gravel Gear at Northern Tool.
Andrew