Going to a Tea Party

The big tax March in DC is going on today. I have a firm policy of NOT going any further north, than Fredricksburg Va.

The Tea Party folks have a feed set up in a restaurant in Richmond, so I'm going there to cover the party for OVN. It looks like the place is anti gun and I'll have to leave mine in the car.

That' going to be the REAL story. WHY WOULD THE ORGANIZERS PROMOTE AN ANTI GUN ESTABLISHMENT.

Oh well, I have my three Canons, a bag of lenses, a digital recorder and a hidden video camera, all packed up. Time to see what happens:innocent:

According to what I just heard on the news this is supposed to be the "Last Stop" on the "TEA Party trail". I find this hard to believe. I just think this thing has got rolling,and isn't going to stop like that. I haven't been to one but they have been everywhere. I just think there will be more to come.
Peter Sorry you can't go armed,especially since it is legal in your state. Be safe.

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Originally Posted by pocomoonskyeyes

According to what I just heard on the news this is supposed to be the "Last Stop" on the "TEA Party trail". I find this hard to believe. I just think this thing has got rolling,and isn't going to stop like that. I haven't been to one but they have been everywhere. I just think there will be more to come.
Peter Sorry you can't go armed,especially since it is legal in your state. Be safe.

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What was meant by that - a caravan that started on the west coast a couple of weeks ago has been stopping at towns all across the country. The stop in DC is the last stop of that trip. There will be many more to come IMO.

After working in DC for 16yrs I personally think the Beltway would make a good place for a fence with guards in VA & MD to keep the nuts IN. Unless you plan on looting & burning and generally raising he!! you're not really newsworthy and won't get anything for your effort. Just from my own observations driving & working during a lot of them.

The solution to most of the problem is really simple.

Except for most of the civil rights and environmental protection laws, pretty much every other federal and state law passed since 1960 should be repealed.

Well.....I've been thrown outta better bars than that

http://news.oldva.org/blogroll/baile...for-criminals/

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Originally Posted by peter nap

Well.....I've been thrown outta better bars than that

http://news.oldva.org/blogroll/baile...for-criminals/

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I was asked to leave a business establishment once. In November of 1988. So I left.

Seems the business didn't have a lease with the landlord. I bought the building 3 weeks later.

Seems the business was also in default on its bank loans. The bank had already been to court and had the authority to move in and take over the business. I bought the bank note the following week for 8.3 cents on the dollar, just days before Christmas.

Anyone wanna' guess what I did next? :innocent:

Ummmmmm......gave everybody Christmas bonuses?

i've been asked to leave plenty of establishments, each one nicer than the last. i'm movin' up in the world.

the only downside is that i can no longer use my favorite like: 'alright, i've been kicked out of better places than this.'

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Originally Posted by Ken

I was asked to leave a business establishment once. In November of 1988. So I left.

Seems the business didn't have a lease with the landlord. I bought the building 3 weeks later.

Seems the business was also in default on its bank loans. The bank had already been to court and had the authority to move in and take over the business. I bought the bank note the following week for 8.3 cents on the dollar, just days before Christmas.

Anyone wanna' guess what I did next? :innocent:

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Sounds like a scene from "Pretty Woman". My guess is you dated Julia Roberts. (I'll PM you where to send my prize money. I did win, didn't I??)

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Originally Posted by Ken

I was asked to leave a business establishment once. In November of 1988. So I left.

Seems the business didn't have a lease with the landlord. I bought the building 3 weeks later.

Seems the business was also in default on its bank loans. The bank had already been to court and had the authority to move in and take over the business. I bought the bank note the following week for 8.3 cents on the dollar, just days before Christmas.

Anyone wanna' guess what I did next? :innocent:

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I'm not sure what you do for a living Ken....but I take my hat off to you!:clap:

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

Ummmmmm......gave everybody Christmas bonuses?

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Not quite.......

Actually, it was one of the owners that asked me to leave. :sneaky2:

The place was a flower shop known as "Gar-Eds." The bank was Shawmut Bank. My friend's wife was a florist, and she was looking to buy her own place.

Ya' know, what's funny? Lot's of folks send flowers around the holidays. FTD, Tele-Flora, all the rest. Back then, they credited the merchant's account 14-21 days after the sale was made. I bought the accounts receivable, AND THE BANK ACCOUNTS, when I bought the business.

So, I went to the shop's bank and temporarily froze all accounts. Then, I just walked in the door of that little flower shop with a sheriff at 4:00 on the 24th. Scooped everything, including the cash in the register. Let everyone go home early, and told the employees that we'd rehire them all the on 26th.

When the accounts receivable "arrived" in the first week of January, the amount was more than double what I paid the bank for the business. Since I'm no florist, I just signed the business over to my friend's wife.

Everyone was happy, happy, happy!

Except the former owners. :sneaky2:

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Originally Posted by Ken

Not quite.......

Actually, it was one of the owners that asked me to leave. :sneaky2:

The place was a flower shop known as "Gar-Eds." The bank was Shawmut Bank. My friend's wife was a florist, and she was looking to buy her own place.

Ya' know, what's funny? Lot's of folks send flowers around the holidays. FTD, Tele-Flora, all the rest. Back then, they credited the merchant's account 14-21 days after the sale was made. I bought the accounts receivable, AND THE BANK ACCOUNTS, when I bought the business.

So, I went to the shop's bank and temporarily froze all accounts. Then, I just walked in the door of that little flower shop with a sheriff at 4:00 on the 24th. Scooped everything, including the cash in the register. Let everyone go home early, and told the employees that we'd rehire them all the on 26th.

When the accounts receivable "arrived" in the first week of January, the amount was more than double what I paid the bank for the business. Since I'm no florist, I just signed the business over to my friend's wife.

Everyone was happy, happy, happy!

Except the former owners. :sneaky2:

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I like your style :)

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Originally Posted by peter nap

I'm not sure what you do for a living Ken....but I take my hat off to you!:clap:

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He's a dang yankee lawyer......but he still does the right thing, every now and then. LOL:innocent:

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Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit

He's a dang yankee lawyer......but he still does the right thing, every now and then. LOL:innocent:

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That's what happens when I send my mother flowers for Thanksgiving and they get delivered 3/4 dead. All I did was go back to complain, and they treated me nasty, and.........well......... things just got outta' hand after that. :innocent:

Since no one else asked....How the he** do you get thrown out of flower shop?

Round two

http://news.oldva.org/blogroll/is-th...arty-anti-gun/


Is the Tea Party Anti-Gun

Just imagine planning a Civil Rights Rally…and holding it in a Ku Klux Klan Hall.

Boy howdy, think how surprised those folks looking to enforce their rights under God and the United States Constitution, would be, when they’re greeted by a gentleman with a hood on his head and a noose in his hand and a smile on his face. Nothing like good planning.

Today, I briefly attended the off site Washington D.C. Tea Party. It was held at Bailey’s Pub and Grille in Chesterfield.

As most readers know, I am or was, a strong supporter of the Richmond Tea Party. I’ve done photo stories on several of them.

http://photos.oldva.org/albums/userp...phie2small.jpg

The last one was at the Chesterfield Fairgrounds. Great location…except for one little detail. They closed all the Fairground parking lots to everyone but persons actually working there, and the only other parking was at the school across the street.

And you ask, what’s the problem? Well, it’s illegal to bring a firearm onto school property in Virginia. CHP holders may leave the weapon in their vehicle but common folks can’t even do that. Violation is one of those major, gonna get you arrested and thrown in a cell with Big Bubba, kind of laws.

Did the Tea Party Care….Hell no! One can pass over one little error like that as Purdy Stoopid, but forgivable.

Enter today’s faux pas. The off site rally was held at Bailey’s which is so anti gun, it’s foaming at the mouth. See todays story about my adventures in Baileyland.
Bailey’s Pub and Grille.. A Haven for Criminals ?

After my encounter with the Manager at the door, I went back to the Rally and spotting this Gentleman, whom looked important, I aked “Who’s in charge here”? He acknowledged he was.
http://news.oldva.org/wp-content/gal...x240_tea-1.jpg

I asked him why they would choose to promote an anti gun establishment. He said they weren’t anti gun, they just didn’t want any guns in here.

Well hush my mouth…just how in hell does that make any sense? So I asked, “Is that the best answer you can come up with?”

Obviousely busy counting heads, he said “Look Call VCDL”.

I told him I was a VCDL member and as of the last meeting, we still had our guns on.

His reply before he turned and snipped away…”Tell VCDL to pick the place next time”.

Now I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but that boy ain’t right! My conclusion is that the Richmond Tea Party just flat doesn’t give a damn about gun rights. There’s no other explanation!

I invite the Tea Party to explain these two lapses in judgment. I’ll happily print them.

Until then
http://news.oldva.org/wp-content/gal...x240_tea-2.jpg
http://news.oldva.org/wp-content/gal...0x240_tea3.jpg
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Peter - you will find no bigger support of the 2nd Amendment than me. I think you are ending at a conclusion that may not be there. The "guy" that picked the locations may have made an innocent mistake. Possibly not. The organizer for the Richmond Tea Party may be focused so intensely on a single task, that other concerns did not come into his field of view. When you say

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My conclusion is that the Richmond Tea Party just flat doesn’t give a damn about gun rights.

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you are assigning that to those that attended as well as the individual that you spoke to. Having been to a few tea parties in the past, it is my belief that the vast majority of all participants were supporters of the entire Constitution.

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Originally Posted by Rick

Since no one else asked....How the he** do you get thrown out of flower shop?

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That's one up one me. I've never been thrown out of a flower shop before. Guess I best get with it before I get too old to be a threat to the posies:sneaky2:

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Originally Posted by Rick

Since no one else asked....How the he** do you get thrown out of flower shop?

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The flowers were mostly DOA or dead within an hour after arrival. They had probably been allowed to freeze before Mom got 'em. I asked the clown to replace them, and he refused to take responsibility for the fact they were dead. We're talking about a $40.00 arrangement here. I asked him if it was worth spending a day in court over since I was gonna' be there anyway. THEN, he called me a bad name and told me to get the **** out.

On Christmas Eve, he could't quite place my face. I reminded him. :)

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

Peter - you will find no bigger support of the 2nd Amendment than me. I think you are ending at a conclusion that may not be there. The "guy" that picked the locations may have made an innocent mistake. Possibly not. The organizer for the Richmond Tea Party may be focused so intensely on a single task, that other concerns did not come into his field of view. When you say you are assigning that to those that attended as well as the individual that you spoke to. Having been to a few tea parties in the past, it is my belief that the vast majority of all participants were supporters of the entire Constitution.

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Not really. The Richmond Tea Party is well aware of the problem. After the Chesterfield incident, I had a private and pointed conversation with them.
They are a very arrogant bunch, While I support the Tea Party movement, I have a zero tolerance policy concerning guns. There is no middle ground.

We have speakers that were in the DC March and scheduled for future TP Events. Regardless, I added this today.

http://photos.oldva.org/albums/userpics/rtp.jpg

If RTP wants to give their side of it, they have an open invitation.

I doubt I would have considered CCW if I had picked out the school parking lot. Just wouldn't have thought of it I don't think. I'll bet no one else was thinking about CCW when they put the plans together either.

Instead of taking a hard stance with them why not offer to meet with them and present a well thought out and civil discourse for future meetings? One that could include CCW as part of the overall planning? Taking a hard stance and alienating them places you and CCW overall in jeopardy of not being taken seriously. Just my thoughts.

Along the same lines that Rick posted with, and since they apparently made the offer to you for picking the next location - why not work with them. If you get involved, and you pick the location, you know it will be gun friendly. If not, then there is nobody to blame except you. Now - if the offer they made to you was not sincere, and they refuse to let you get involved and pick the next location - you may be on to something.

I'm not sure what there is to talk about. If they have their events in places that do not allow guns...my position stands.

Somethings going on today though. The traffic is so heavy, I had to pull the server offline..

The organizers probably just weren't really thinking of concealed carry when they picked the place, I doubt they are anti gun.

If you just brought it to their attention rather than immediately run off to write a nasty article about it, they would probably understand and take it into consideration next time.

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Originally Posted by peter nap

I'm not sure what there is to talk about. If they have their events in places that do not allow guns...my position stands.

Somethings going on today though. The traffic is so heavy, I had to pull the server offline..

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Peter - you may not have been responding to my post. If not, my apologies in advance. Earlier you said:

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His reply before he turned and snipped away…”Tell VCDL to pick the place next time”.

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I am suggesting that you take him up on that offer. Bringing in more and more like minded folks will be a benefit for both groups.

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

Peter - you may not have been responding to my post. If not, my apologies in advance. Earlier you said: I am suggesting that you take him up on that offer. Bringing in more and more like minded folks will be a benefit for both groups.

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I understand what you're saying Crash...and I agree. Frankly, I've been amazed by what the Tea Parties have done. Haven't had this much fun since the 60's.
They do have THEIR agenda though and that's taxes, not guns.

Now the problem is that in Virginia, if they lose the gun lobby, they've lost 60% of their support base and they know it.

I don't want to be the one to split the vote though. I've worked too hard to get EVERYONE on one playing field.

As it is, I caused a terrible stir and there were a lot of behind the scenes discussions...that of course I don't know about:innocent:

I think the issue has been resolved now and I'm willing to let it die down and see how well they select the next location.

Oh, Crash, I was responding to Rick's post and Rick, CCW isn't the issue. Open carry i the only thing that concerns me. I really don't conceal. My goal is to have Virginia get away from the CHP 's all together. I want an Alakan style law. We don't need any kind of permit in Va to open carry and I like to remind people of that. It's getting so I see Open Carriers, everywhere I go now.

Gotcha. Thanks.

CCW in Indiana is for both concealed and open. Our law doesn't specify which it has to be.

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