Does Anybody Arm Themselves With Glocks? If so what model and why.
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Does Anybody Arm Themselves With Glocks? If so what model and why.
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i use a glock 21 high capacity 45 cant go wrong did some duribility tests my self keeps on shootin combat accuracy is better than most people can shoot i was also in iraq 04-05 and 07-08 where were you out of
The G21 is an excellent choice for the .45 ACP. I own one myself. I was with "Pattons Own" 3rd Army Div. PSD Fort Bragg.
i fell under the 3rd my first deployment
Nice kids! My dad was in the 3rd...... in Korea. As in Korean conflict. I've seen too many A.D.'s with the Glock. Not the Glocks fault, but if you are going to own a firearm, train with it. I prefer a ParaOrdnance, cocked and locked!
I often carry a Glock 19. As far as high cap autos go it was the most size and weight efficient model when I bought it years ago. It is also stone reliable and comfortable to carry. Mac
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Originally Posted by SARKY
I've been training recruits for years and there are way more accidental discharges with the 1911 platform than with Glocks. In fact I won't authoriuzed new recruits to carry a 1911 on their off time. With a Glock even an idiot can learn to keep his finger off the trigger. With the 1911 there are plenty more variables to carry that weapon "ready to go". No offense Sarky but I ain't gonna agree with that. With a similar amount of training, 1911's are NOT as safe as a Glock! If you can handle a revolver safely than you can handle a Glock. The same is NOT true with a 1911. Now, back to reality, Tangofoxtrot, I prefere the Glock 19 or 23 because I feel that there is nothing more simple to train with, holds as many bullets for the size, is as easy to maintain or repair, is as light for the size, or more reliable. Did I mention the Glock has superior corrosion resistace to pretty much anything out there. The Glock is also uglier than any 1911. They really are butt nasty ugly IMO. Those 1911 guys just need to conceed to the fact that there are safer s/d pistols out there period! Again, No offense Sarky. Don't get me wrong, I like the 1911 platform. It is just not a pistol for someone who is not willing to dedicate their life to training. Just preaching what I've witnessed. Best.
Well Glock, I do have to say I disagree (shocking eh :) ) . The 1911 is as close to idiot proof as it gets (how do you think I can handle it). In over 30 years of usage, I have never viewed, heard of or had an accidental discharge with a 1911. Maybe it is the people I have been associated with, but I think not. The lack of bells and whistles makes it simple for a neophyte learn to handle. Not being argumentative. Just preaching what I've done.
EDIT: Out of fairness, I will say if I had "grown up" with the Glock series and had as little trouble as you, I may think differently.
Step up to the XD platform. Even I can carry it safely.
Are you advocating that I adopt this centuries technology? Shocking!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Actually, it was a challenge to those silly Glock folks. Springfield has been through how many wars and Glock has been through...well, I rest my case.
Aaah, you know how kids are:). Besides if they did, would be boring. And you are right, it is a very good "warhorse"Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I think I'll stand back now. I may have yanked that chain a little hard.
Pal and Rick, I do give the 1911 props for being a great warhorse:clap:. I also believe that a Glock is every bit as reliable and more so than a loosly fitted G.I.1911. The last time I checked the Glock was in military service with more than a few countries around the world. I rest my case, also. The manual of arms is more complex with a 1911. Those are the facts guys. I, myself, was present for two accidental discharges in the Detectives Office when we were first authorized to carry 1911's. I also witnessed an A/D on the qualification range when an officer attempted to cock his loaded pistol for "cocked and locked" carry and his thumb slipped off the hammer before it was fully cocked. By the grace of God no body got hurt on any of the above occasions. These were G.I. Gov. surplus series 70 1911's that the Department got on a grant. Drop by sometime and I'll show you the bullet hole in the door frame of the bathroom and one other hole in the ceiling. These were not novice shooters. They were trained well but became careless with their series 70 1911's. Only series 80's are authorized now. The series 70 with a lack of an internal fireing pin safety are not as safe to handle as a Glock or other modern design pistol. If they were as safe as a more modern weapon why would they have changed the design slightly? TO MAKE IT MORE SAFE! :smash: I don't believe that the Springfield XD is a "step up" either. It is a Glock knock off that is a nice weapon in it's own right. I happen to like mine just fine. Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess. Ya'll are right. It would be no fun if we all agreed on everything all the time. Like I said before, "Just preaching what I've witnessed". Stay safe.
Hmmmm....how did he get that round in there, without that thing being cocked?:innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by glockcop
Apparently he lowered the hammer then later wanted to carry it "cocked and locked". Not rocket science here.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit
I carried and used the 1911 and carried cocked & locked. Switched to the Beretta Cougar. I have never tried carrying a Glock, shot a few and went back to the Beretta. Personal choice and I have been carrying for 45yrs, never had a problem with cocked & locked so I guess I must be lucky??
Ole Coot, You are a product of disapline my friend, and maybe a little lucky too :). stay safe brother
May be a generational thing :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot
Maybe so Pal....Maybe so.:wheelchair: Just playing.
Possible but not likely. Same with caliber. The 45 never let me down and whatQuote:
Originally Posted by glockcop
I shot never complained. Wife's friend is a parole officer and carries a Glock 40, recommended by the state for her. She has very intensive training at the State Police Academy and then I show her what works best for her. At 5'3" and around 130 I seriously doubt if she really needs to practice one hand reload with both hands, just know how to Point Shoot with either hand, quickly and with a double tap. The weapon of choice around here is a 12ga and if a Glock will beat one then maybe........then again, NAH. I've already been drafted so
I don't need a high cap handgun. I carry a spare mag mainly to balance out the
walking stick which makes a darn good rest, then again maybe an RPG on each
side of my wheelchair...NAH, can't carry them cocked & locked so I quit. Beware
of old men when you're working youngster.:innocent:
Ole Coot, You "seaoned" gents get my utmost respect :). There is alot to be said for ya'll's life experience. That goes for you too, Pal. Keep on keeping on. I'm not all that far behind yall. Stay safe amigos.
P.S. I really like the .45 acp too. It is a wonderful s/d round. No argument from me on that.
Sorry Rick, Glocks are in military service right now in more than a few countries. It's earned it's badge of honor plus some. There are ALOT more Glocks in harms way worldwide than our vaunted 1911 or the Glock knock off Springfield XD which have been through exactly "0" wars :tongue_smilie:. Not much of a challenge there :). Just research it on Wikipedia. Scroll down to "Users" and check out all those flags. Each one of those countries (36) field the Glock. Challenge officially BUSTED! Nuff said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I've owned a few Glocks including a 17, 23, 22, and 27.
I keep trying to like them, honest I do, but somehow I just can't manage it.
Tools: G-20 & G-35 & Shopping for a G-24
My Glock 23 in .40 S&W, which I own, is my primary duty weapon.
I had a Glock 27 that was a sweet-shooting gun, that I originally got as a backup weapon for the 23. It proved a bit too heavy and bulky for my taste. I eventually sold it to get a Springfield XD Subcompact 9mm, a choice I do not regret.
I still remain a big fan of Glock, though.
I do not personally care for the 1911, I just don't like "cocked-and-locked" carry. Any safety can fail, and the 1911 is just a little too ready-to-fire for my taste.
However, as I say, that is mainly my personal preference, probably influenced by my own training and experienced.
I have never had a bad experience with a Glock, an XD, or a 1911.
I was just being a smart arse. It sounded to me like he was playing with it, and had an oops.:blushing:Quote:
Originally Posted by glockcop
Yep. A big ooops! He now carries a Glock 23 with Mepro Night Sights. Of course I think he made a great choice :clap:. Take care.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit
Now why in the world would I arm myself with a clock. :) Oh you said glock....oops. Nope never had one. I know they are good guns bud I prefer Taurus and Beretta.
To each his own dude. You are none the less well armed. Stay safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by doug1980
I guess I might as well admit that practically every LEO I know carries a Glock because of the simplicity and ease of maintenance that many of them could care less about. If a handgun is a tool in your line of work you should know it inside and out. Glocks are very very low maintenance and I gotta admit I know a lot of folks like the parole officer I mentioned that could care less and will never think about cleaning it. Local LEOs like it for the same reason, and none of them are serious shooters. I won't switch but for the average LEO they seem to work and fill a need. Way back when a S&W 38, 4" bbl was issue I bought a few that had plenty of holster wear but never cleaned, probably never used. Just maybe the Glock will save some idiots life.
You may well be correct, but I never allowed my folks to get lazy. A size 10 steel toe is an excellent motivator. Your gear and equipment gets serviced bfore chow or down time. Like my signature says: ...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot
Some here carry the G-20 for big brown fuzzy thingies. (BIGFOOTS)
You are so right, Pal and Coot. I give Weapon Inspection from time to time on the street to any given officer on whim. I also inspect every weapon on the line before the officer qualifies. Our Patrol Sgt.'s give a bi monthly Weapon Inspection per Department P&P. You are not gonna find any cruddy weapons on our officers. Other Departments I've worked with through the years are a different story. I once pushed a 3" dust bunny out of the barrel of a Beretta 92fs that belonged to an officer from a neighboring department. Needless to say he got not trigger time on my line until it was properly cleaned and lubricated. He is a Reserve Officer and only works detail work at a Hospital. He sheepishly admitted to have not cleaned the gun for at least a year. That tells you how long it had been since he qualified. Jeeezzz, is that pathetic or what?!!! Like everybody at my present Department, their Officers now get to see my face three times yearly just like I require. I have never believed in a yearly qualification. I don't tolerate mediocrity when my officer's lives are on the line. Yall stay safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pal334
Never owned or shot a Glock. I prefer FN 5.7x28 little gun big kaboom.
You do good. Wish more did and yearly qualification is a joke. I never understood how a person could ignore something that may save their or someones life. Keep up the good work maybe it will catch on.:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by glockcop
Ammunition is expensive, and unfortunately often times (especially in this economy) smaller departments simply don't have the budget to give their officers more practice ammo. Officers could buy their own practice ammo, if they can find some (good luck), and if they have the money in their own budget to spend on it. Even after that, it then becomes a matter of finding a place to shoot. Our local privately owned ranges don't do LEO discounts, and our official county range will not allow officers to practice there on their own time without a certified firearms instructor present.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot
Thankfully I have always been a natural marksman. I wish I could say the same for everyone.
Actually, SgtD, I get what your saying. I wonder how many on this forum rely on their weapon for home defense yet haven't been to the range or cleaned their weapon in a year. This is one area where "use it or loose it" can have terrible repercussions.
Well. I carry a 1911 in the Burbs but still prefer a revolver in the sticks.
I did carry a Glock many years ago when my kids were small but had to get rid of it.
It shot well, was pretty well maintenance free and never gave any problems, but if I left the house in a hurry...I often picked up the kid water gun by mistake.:smash: