Second Attempt: Survey on "POT, YOUR THOUGHTS."

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03-04-2009, 02:17 PM
Ken

Second Attempt: Survey on "POT, YOUR THOUGHTS."

SORRY ABOUT THE FIRST TRY. My POS computer likes to crash a lot lately.

Well, this thread http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=5975 has sure been a lively one.

I presume we have all educated ourselves on the issue of Marijuana and all have our own opinions on the subject of Marijuana - Good v. Bad.

So, my friends, here is an anonymous poll . The results should be interesting.
03-04-2009, 02:40 PM
Pict

My view on this is a little unorthodox. The last thing I would like to see is American Tobacco companies marketing weed. On the other hand if a person wants to grow and use pot on their own property (for personal use not for sale) I don't think it should be anybody's business but their own.

That said I as an employer should have the right not to hire, or to fire anyone who uses whatever drug I don't want to deal with, including alcohol or tobacco, coffee for that matter. As a landlord I should not be forced to rent property to anyone who does drugs.

Insurance companies should be allowed to set the premiums for people who do and don't do drugs. I would love it if my car insurance was less because I can pass a drug screen. I don't drink or do drugs why should I pay increased premiums to cover those who do?

If you want to do drugs, fine, screw yourself up, kill off your own brain cells. Don't ask me to bail you out or carry your sorry load. Drugs come with consequences and I as a non-drug user shouldn't have to share them with you. Mac
03-04-2009, 05:37 PM
sh4d0wm4573ri7

weed has no place in a survival situation nor on a survival site This site is to teach and learn survival not to debate legality of drugs hello!
03-04-2009, 07:40 PM
klkak

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pict

My view on this is a little unorthodox. The last thing I would like to see is American Tobacco companies marketing weed. On the other hand if a person wants to grow and use pot on their own property (for personal use not for sale) I don't think it should be anybody's business but their own.

That said I as an employer should have the right not to hire, or to fire anyone who uses whatever drug I don't want to deal with, including alcohol or tobacco, coffee for that matter. As a landlord I should not be forced to rent property to anyone who does drugs.

Insurance companies should be allowed to set the premiums for people who do and don't do drugs. I would love it if my car insurance was less because I can pass a drug screen. I don't drink or do drugs why should I pay increased premiums to cover those who do?

If you want to do drugs, fine, screw yourself up, kill off your own brain cells. Don't ask me to bail you out or carry your sorry load. Drugs come with consequences and I as a non-drug user shouldn't have to share them with you. Mac

Mac, the way you put words together you should be a preacher.:lol:
03-04-2009, 07:51 PM
klkak

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh4d0wm4573ri7

weed has no place in a survival situation nor on a survival site This site is to teach and learn survival not to debate legality of drugs hello!

I whole heartedly agree with you. Who ever started this nonsense should be force to snort "chicken crap" and drink "elephant poop juice".
03-04-2009, 08:16 PM
Pal334

Quote:

Originally Posted by klkak

I whole heartedly agree with you. Who ever started this nonsense should be force to snort "chicken crap" and drink "elephant poop juice".

May I quote you on that? :thumbup: Well put
03-04-2009, 08:19 PM
crashdive123

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pict

My view on this is a little unorthodox. The last thing I would like to see is American Tobacco companies marketing weed. On the other hand if a person wants to grow and use pot on their own property (for personal use not for sale) I don't think it should be anybody's business but their own.

That said I as an employer should have the right not to hire, or to fire anyone who uses whatever drug I don't want to deal with, including alcohol or tobacco, coffee for that matter. As a landlord I should not be forced to rent property to anyone who does drugs.

Insurance companies should be allowed to set the premiums for people who do and don't do drugs. I would love it if my car insurance was less because I can pass a drug screen. I don't drink or do drugs why should I pay increased premiums to cover those who do?

If you want to do drugs, fine, screw yourself up, kill off your own brain cells. Don't ask me to bail you out or carry your sorry load. Drugs come with consequences and I as a non-drug user shouldn't have to share them with you. Mac

Yep, what Mac said.
03-04-2009, 09:10 PM
doug1980

Well I voted no, however I feel like this Country needs a new source of revenue instead of taxing us more and more. We need new money coming in versus the same money being taken from "here" and placed over "there" and pot would be a huge source of revenue. But I still think it's bad.
03-04-2009, 09:15 PM
crashdive123

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug1980

Well I voted no, however I feel like this Country needs a new source of revenue instead of taxing us more and more. We need new money coming in versus the same money being taken from "here" and placed over "there" and pot would be a huge source of revenue. But I still think it's bad.

IMO there is a plan out there that would create an economic boom. Not only here, but anywhere it is done. It involves politics so I won't post a link here, but if you're interested I'll send it to you via PM.
03-04-2009, 09:34 PM
doug1980

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashdive123

IMO there is a plan out there that would create an economic boom. Not only here, but anywhere it is done. It involves politics so I won't post a link here, but if you're interested I'll send it to you via PM.

Sure I wanna see this plan. Thanks crash
03-04-2009, 09:39 PM
Ken

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashdive123

IMO there is a plan out there that would create an economic boom. Not only here, but anywhere it is done. It involves politics so I won't post a link here, but if you're interested I'll send it to you via PM.

So what are you waiting for already???? PM me, Crash. Thanks.
03-04-2009, 09:42 PM
crashdive123

Doug and Ken - PM sent.
03-04-2009, 09:45 PM
laughing beetle

Send me the plan too, Crash. I am curious.
03-04-2009, 09:51 PM
Chris

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pict

My view on this is a little unorthodox. The last thing I would like to see is American Tobacco companies marketing weed. On the other hand if a person wants to grow and use pot on their own property (for personal use not for sale) I don't think it should be anybody's business but their own.

That said I as an employer should have the right not to hire, or to fire anyone who uses whatever drug I don't want to deal with, including alcohol or tobacco, coffee for that matter. As a landlord I should not be forced to rent property to anyone who does drugs.

Insurance companies should be allowed to set the premiums for people who do and don't do drugs. I would love it if my car insurance was less because I can pass a drug screen. I don't drink or do drugs why should I pay increased premiums to cover those who do?

If you want to do drugs, fine, screw yourself up, kill off your own brain cells. Don't ask me to bail you out or carry your sorry load. Drugs come with consequences and I as a non-drug user shouldn't have to share them with you. Mac

Absolutely... except, the home grower thing doesn't work.

A big reason to legalize pot is to reduce the violence. Allowing some people to home grow doesn't fix that, it just makes criminals target homes for theivery. The best solution is large commercial scale farming and distribution such as tobacco.

But all the rest is right, any business owner should have the right to fire or not hire on that issue, or many other issues, and I think most insurances also already ask about this, as well they should. And they should for things like physical fitness/obesity, etc too. Any and all habits.
03-04-2009, 10:50 PM
DOGMAN

Legalize it, and tax it. IMHO Its not the governments job to police consciousness
03-04-2009, 11:18 PM
wildography

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh4d0wm4573ri7

weed has no place in a survival situation nor on a survival site This site is to teach and learn survival not to debate legality of drugs hello!

Hmmm... I dunno about that... what if TSHTF, resulting in TEOTWAWKI ? If you have a couple of pounds of pot... you could always sell, or trade, some of it... then wait till your buyers get so stoned that they can't stop you and go into their camp and steal everything that they've got? Teach 'em a lesson for smoking pot when its TEOTWAWKI!

Hmmm... nah, never mind, bad idea... then again, as a barter item, when its TEOTWAWKI might not be such a bad idea... grow your own, turn a nice lil profit...
03-05-2009, 05:14 PM
tonester

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh4d0wm4573ri7

weed has no place in a survival situation nor on a survival site This site is to teach and learn survival not to debate legality of drugs hello!

i agree! im sure there are other forums where pot heads can talk about weed or any other drug they want.
03-05-2009, 07:40 PM
swampmouse

Cannot beat them, tax them.
03-05-2009, 08:46 PM
last one standing

I'm with the whole barter thing i started a home brew and starting to get better at it i think. Weed makes me unmotivated and some how i kept forgetting where i put stuff not good in a survival situation but as a product to trade it might be up there with food and gasoline.
03-05-2009, 10:30 PM
klkak

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pal334

May I quote you on that? :thumbup: Well put

Please feel free to quote me on this statement.:lol:
03-08-2009, 03:54 AM
sgtdraino

I'm in law enforcement. I've never done drugs, nor would I ever consider doing drugs. That said...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pict

if a person wants to grow and use pot on their own property (for personal use not for sale) I don't think it should be anybody's business but their own.

That said I as an employer should have the right not to hire, or to fire anyone who uses whatever drug I don't want to deal with, including alcohol or tobacco, coffee for that matter. As a landlord I should not be forced to rent property to anyone who does drugs.

Insurance companies should be allowed to set the premiums for people who do and don't do drugs. I would love it if my car insurance was less because I can pass a drug screen. I don't drink or do drugs why should I pay increased premiums to cover those who do?

If you want to do drugs, fine, screw yourself up, kill off your own brain cells. Don't ask me to bail you out or carry your sorry load. Drugs come with consequences and I as a non-drug user shouldn't have to share them with you. Mac

I agree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

Allowing some people to home grow doesn't fix that, it just makes criminals target homes for theivery. The best solution is large commercial scale farming and distribution such as tobacco.

I agree with this too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason_Montana

Legalize it, and tax it. IMHO Its not the governments job to police consciousness

And I also agree with this.

The "war on drugs" has accomplished little more than to fund gang activity, by driving up black market prices. We need to learn the lessons from Prohibition. If people want to get effed up, they will find a way. The government's job is to protect you from other people, not to protect you from yourself.

Some people don't want to legalize drugs for health reasons. News flash: You can get effed up on various legal chemicals you can purchase at your local grocery store very, very cheaply, which have much more potentially dangerous side-effects. You don't see the government making paint or glue illegal, do you? Those are far more dangerous "drugs" than the reefer.

Legalize, legislate, and tax the hell out of it.
03-08-2009, 10:40 AM
Rick

Everyone bored to tears over these threads raise your hand. One, two, three, four....that's what I figured.

Here's something I'm sure most of us CAN agree on:

http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/.../survival-guns
03-08-2009, 11:07 AM
Ken

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Everyone bored to tears over these threads raise your hand. One, two, three, four....that's what I figured.

:wavey::yawn::crash::wavey::wavey::wavey:
03-08-2009, 12:32 PM
red lake

If I get caught smoking a little weed, I am no longer allowed in to the USA. I have been a habitual user of tobacco, alcohol and marijuana and I no longer smoke anything for many many years now.

Booze should be illegal before pot. You don't hear of the problem of toking and driving, or somebody taking a toke and beating his wife. There are many more social problems associated with alcohol than pot.

However, it is still a drug and does impair the user. And for that reason it still needs to be illegal. But illegal like speeding, not illegal like murder.

Decriminalize, or make tobacco and alcohol illegal the same way.
03-08-2009, 04:46 PM
Nativedude

WILDERNESS SURVIVAL Forums NOT pot smoking forums!

Quote:

sh4d0wm4573ri7 Wrote:"weed Has No Place In A Survival Situation Nor On A Survival Site This Site Is To Teach And Learn Survival Not To Debate Legality Of Drugs Hello!"

Bingo Ringo!!
03-09-2009, 02:14 PM
MCBushbaby

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh4d0wm4573ri7

weed has no place in a survival situation nor on a survival site This site is to teach and learn survival not to debate legality of drugs hello!

True. Perhaps the OP should rephrase the question such as to relate:

"Should we legalize pot [to tax and gain funds for our struggling economy as to avoid a SHTF crisis]?"

And then follow that with "Would you grow and sell pot during hard times to make ends meet? Like bootlegging back when?"
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