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pierre - most definantly!
Gotta go for your cuz Bragg. Matt Serra is a loud mouth idiot.
I hate Matt
So start a thread about what we need to know oh wise one, or lighten upQuote:
Originally Posted by remy
A wise man once said on this forum that he did not distinguish between survival in the wilderness and survival in an urban setting since many of the skill for either location were applicable to both. A UFC match where the cousin of one of the forum members is a participant being posted in "General" where we are encouraged to discuss anything other than politics and religion may be one of the ultimate survival questions. Here we have two predators that are after the same game (title belt). Both are physically capable of reaching their goal. Both have been stalking their target. What now separates one from the other may largely lie above their shoulders. Survival? Not Survival? I wouldn't care to get into their wilderness to find out if I could survive.
well said crash , hoisted on his own pa ;)tard
Not even well armed. We all agree who will probably win but I don't have a pair big enough to tackle the loser. They fight more civilized than I ever did but NO WAY would I even wear those shorts let alone fight in them.
Thanks crash. ;)
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Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot
I was a western canadian arm wrestling champion (light heavy) back in my late teens and early twenties (hence my bad shoulders). Georges younger brother Alfred is going to junior provincial's next month in Ontario and also started training in mixed martial arts. My uncle says Alfred will be the up and coming star in the coming years as he has worked twice as hard at his age with less injuries compared to George. It will be exciting in the next few years to watch him progress and grow in the sport. He is 13 years old, 5'10" and 185lbs.
Even if my shoulders were good, I wouldnt even think of going head to head with this 13 year old kid. Times are certainly changing Coot.
You are correct sir. I will no longer equate well written posts to a persons wisdom, or lack there of.
Remy, not an attack on you or anything but if you were so smart, why would you live in LA? Practicing survival skills?
I suggest you go to a pawn shop and buy two of their three brass balls and try MMA for yourself. I don't think you or any of us could "survive" (there's that word again) long enough to worry about the ref, rules, rounds. I don't know if you get disqualified for climbing the fence but I sure would try. Maybe there is a tad bit of jealousy concerning the average man and the fighters. I couldn't last one min. on my best day with any fighter so any rules, regs wouldn't mean a damn.
That is a good thing, becuse you have not so far. You were the one who made a judgement on the condition the forum had come to becuse of the topic of the tread ,as you judged my post silly...yes. For some one who drones on and on with the physo babble you are mighty judgementel, all I was saying if you don't like the direction things are going start a thread, the oh wise one referes to your condaending manner. If you have something to say do so in less then 1700 words would be nice if you can manage it. And iI would never stay up late waiting for you do say orr do anything. It seems you are already reading Cosmo and watching Oprah with a good sized helping of Dr. Phil.Quote:
Originally Posted by remy
Seems like you wuld rather sit back and snip about the ways things are then do anything about it, "how's that workin for ya" I don't think it would work to well in the woods either.
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Originally Posted by remy
Excellent answer remy.
I was in LA a few years ago and got lost, totally out of my element. Your a tougher man than me. :)
Um, yeah...I think you give most soldiers to much credit as philosophers. If you ask most of them why they're occupying a warzone, you get something along the lines of "Because this is where they told me to go.". Not to abstract and not to many paradoxes there.Quote:
Originally Posted by remy
Sapper you know that and I know that but do we really know that and apparently the garasshopper is up to his old tricks, al lot of words and never an answer.
The Wolves Within
An old Grandfather said to his grandson, who came to him with anger at a friend who had done him an injustice.... "Let me tell you a story. I too, at times, have felt great hate for those who have taken so much, with no sorrow for what they do. But hate wears you down, and does not hurt your enemy. It's like taking poison and wishing your enemy would die.
"I have struggled with these feelings many times.
"It is as if there are two wolves inside me; one is good and does no harm. He lives in harmony with all around him and does not take offense when no offense was intended. He will only fight when it is right to do so, and in the right way. But...the other wolf... ah! The littlest thing will send him into a fit of temper. He fights everyone, all of the time, for no reason. He cannot think because his anger and hate are so great. It is helpless anger, for his anger will change nothing.
"Sometimes it is hard to live with these two wolves inside me, for both of them try to dominate my spirit."
The boy looked intently into his Grandfather's eyes and asked, "Which one wins, Grandfather?"
The Grandfather smiled and quietly said, "The one I feed."
-- A Native American tale told many times around the Sacred Fire
Point taken
Why do we seem to fall on each others throats? Oh yeah because we are humans. I don't follow sports, so I don't know who will win the UFC thing. I hope Braggs man does ok. I think people wind up where they need to be. And sometimes we wind up where the wife wants to live. ;)
You should have been a politician. You find ways to dance around spouting all kinds of rhetoric and never really say anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by remy
I've spent a lot of time with soldiers, being deployed, and most of them didn't wax philosophical about why they were there. They simply understood they were there because they were told to be. Sure, they may have been in the military because of some complex set of issues in their personal life, just about everybody was/is that ever enlisted. And I think that most soldiers have a pretty good understanding of the politics that got them to the warzone if they so choose to inform themselves. Otherwise they just didn't really give a damn.
And I'm not arguing whether war is or is not a paradox, it was more about the "paradoxical nature of the soldiers answer about why he's in a warzone". But whatever. I'm not really feeling another public throwdown in the forums over what essentially amounts to absolutely nothing, ultimately causing the mods to close the thread.
ridge wolf - thanks for the story.
this is a good example of what discusion and differences of opinion and being human engaged in dialog from all diferent walks of life brings. a gem - a nuget whatever you want to call it. stories and sayings that are common place to one that have never been heard of by another. this is just another of several nugetts i will put in my stash to be used with the boys i work with on a regular basis.
does ufc have anything to do with survival? it may or may not, but good information that does still finds its way into the discusion.
rofl. All that pretty rhetoric to call me stupid, or how did you put it, without "a hint of perspicacity"...I have enough "perspicacity" to know that;Quote:
Originally Posted by remy
A: It took you all that to insult me, when most people can suffice with a simple one liner.
B: You need to spout that crap to make yourself feel intelligent to compensate for something else that's lacking in your life.
I'm sorry you're so unfulfilled in the other areas of your life that you need to come on here and try to make yourself feel more intelligent by trying to stuff as many $.50 words into a post as you can.
But since this has nothing to do with Wilderness Survival, I'm done with this conversation. Have a nice life.
most of you do not understand why some of us would choose to enter the cage as with anything in life for us it is because of this one thing
i became an airborne ranger-to challenge myself to see what i was capable of
i became a professional bullrider to challenge myself and to see what i was made of
i have a record of 6-1 in the mma scene because i wished to challenge myself and see what i was made of
i leave society and enter the bush for two weeks with limite supplies because i wish to challenge myself and see what i am made of..
i see myself as a warrior not to cause harm to others but to challenge myself when in these circumstances i do not ask myself why but why not do you not feel alive at this moment i choose not to sit on the front porch when i am 80 and say i wish i had...but rather will have a hot young nurse wheel me out to the front porch and smile in the fact that i have lived.
i hope this clears up for anyof you as to why some of us choose to fight whether in the armed forces or in the cage..
always be prepared-prepare all ways...
perspicous-adj plain to the understanding esp because of clairity and precision of presentation
well that certainly cleared it up
Personally, to me, Ultimate Fighting or MMA matches is not survival in the way I preceive it. Pitting two men in a ring to see which one will come out on top is of no use.
In the Ranger's we didn't pit ourselves against each other, we were professional soldiers, warriors, or whatever you wanna call it. Sure there was friendly competition but it was about doing the right thing and what my country sent me to do.
That being said I am a fight fan, and hope St. Pierre comes out on top. But to me its just entertainment. Having completed my training (boy was that long) I am back now, so I will be here from time to time when not serving warrants. My job has taken a new direction in being on the Sheriff's SRT and a duty day consists of serving high risk warrants and hunting fellon's in our county and backing local cops in townships and the city, as well as raiding drug houses or whatever comes up. The men I work with on SRT are the homefront warriors to me, and hero's all.
If anyone heard about the two Colerain Twp. Firefighters that died in a fire a week ago, I have been gone also for them, they were good friends and fellow emergency personal. But I'm back now!!! Muhhhhhaaaaaa!!!!
now your talking semantics but yes you are quite correct i have always said that riding a bull is mental same as getting in a cage it is not a physical challange but a mental one i have beaten men that were better fighters than me probably all of them but i was able to get in their heads(that and way better cardio)Quote:
Originally Posted by remy
you are missing the point as to why most men get into the cage yes some are there for personal glory some for fame and fortune but most are there for the challenge the cage is just one outlet for it if mma did not exsist they would find other waysQuote:
Originally Posted by Beowulf65
There are other ways to challenge yourself, but I don't disagree with you I just don't see it as a form of survival, but that's just me. Now as far as pitting one fighter against another, I agree there is nothing better than the UFC except maybe for putting them in the street and getting rid of the rules. As I said I am a fight fan.
Or it may be that I challenge myself in other ways... yes that's more to what I meant.
But if that outlet works for them then great, especially cause I'm gonna watch.
but it is a form of survival- survival is 90 percent mental i think we will all agree on that so is riding a bull or fighting if you doubt yourself you are done in any aspect of life..
I think that what George is doing is certainly survival. He started out in martial arts at 5 years old because he needed to protect himself. He was beaten up daily for his lunch money and clothes on his back. Sure it's entertainment now, but at the same time he built he way to the top. Surviving the octogon is survival in my books.
wareagle, if you even got in that ring (win or lose) my hat is off to you and you got some big huevos my friend.
naw not really i just always have talked allot of sh*t but always the first to back it up mean while always asking myself why i talk so much trash first guy to get ink in my company first to go aussie out of a blackhawk butmaybe thats why i do it cuz i forces my self to taes myself although not always the best thing to do gotten me in a few spots before also now tdw just says i'm boring cuz i only go into the bush but i think she also likes the spotlight of being my wife in those situations
I got too pretty a face to get it all lumped up. Yea, thats it. :D
really hmmm see i didn't get that from your pics maybe i need a new moniter
So do YOU think St. Pierre is hungry enough to get it this time?Quote:
Originally Posted by BraggSurvivor
I think so, there should be no excuse this time. There is also a huge incentive to win as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpine_Sapper
St. Pierre would be the highest paid fighter based on his contract (Liddel holds $500K per fight now - win or lose) and win bonuses will double if he wins this fight to regain the title.
Nice thing about MMA though, as we seen before, it only takes one punch. You just never know.
One fool beating another fool for money and caling it sport!Quote:
Originally Posted by remy
Don
Don't begin it if you ain't there to win it. It is a long way of saying give all you have to something ( family, country, religion, what have you) I have found that when I give all I have to something I win either way. But then I'm an ole' jarhead from Mississippi, what do I know.
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Originally Posted by dilligaf2u2
What makes them fools Don? What do you do/did for a living?
you are entitled to your opinions but coming from someone who has competed it is not about that maybe reread my earlier posts, have you ever talked to any competitors to see why they do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by dilligaf2u2