Hi folks, I am shopping around for a .22lr semi-auto that is as small or smaller than the Ruger LCP. I am looking for something better than a Jennings or Raven.
-Sam
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Hi folks, I am shopping around for a .22lr semi-auto that is as small or smaller than the Ruger LCP. I am looking for something better than a Jennings or Raven.
-Sam
How compact, Sam? I have Walther P22 and a much smaller Beretta Bobcat. I'm quite pleased with both of them.
Don't have any small .22's but do like the Beretta Bodcat.
BTW - if it doesn't HAVE to be a .22 and you're most concerned about "compact," check out the Seecamp .32ACP-LWS. It's a quality handgun and even smaller than the BOBCAT. I can carry it in my front pocket and forget it's even there.
Thanks for the feedback, I am always glad to get input on these things. I am looking at .22lr pistols for size and ammo price. I can practice more for the price. I used to have an American arms PK22 years ago. Does Walther still make the TPH?
I Googled your question. The info I saw states that the upgraded TPH has been in continuous production since 1968.
Working off my iPhone at the moment. Otherwise, I'd post a link.
Sam, go to the Seecamp website and you'll find a column on the top right entitled, "Size Matters." Click on the link there and you'll go to a PDF file with pics and specs for several firearms, by different manufacturers, of comparable size.
Beretta's Bobcat .22 LR is a quality, small pistol. I know several people who carry them in their pockets.
S.M.
Another vote for the P22. Good value and you can get a silencer for it that makes practice shooting practically inaudible. The downside of it is the grip size. If you wear XL gloves it's a tight fit in your hand.
Goog
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...34898853_n.jpg
Seecamp, Bobcat, and Walther
Sorry about the picture orientation. This is from my i-Phone. My home computer's out for routine maintenance. I'll flip the pic when I get it back. If one of the mods can flip it, be my guest.
Thanks Ken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken
You can get a 45 round drum magazine for the P22.
http://www.spentbrass.com/pistol/wal...azine-drum.php
Out of stock! Never mind.
I would second the Beretta. The wife has had one for years and it has never failed to fire. Easy maintenance as well. Good quality gun that easily fits in a pocket.
Any news for us? I love to see a big kid with a new toy! :scooter:
Nope, can not find the Walther TPH or the Bob Cat in my area. I will keep looking though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken
One small pistol that might fit your needs is one which was actually made by a few different companies and was a small framed model similar to the Walther PPK it was made by American Arms (CX-22), Erma (PX-22)and Iver Johnson (TP-22), I have had one for about 10 yrs now though the sights are tiny and a bit hard to see the little pistol is quite accurate. I keep telling myself that a set of sights like a big dot up front and wide V rear would do the trick for my old eyes , maybe someday LOL Every once in awhile I see a couple show up on sites like Gun Broker. One draw back about these little pistols is trying to find spare mags . Bottom line is they are decent shooters if you can find one.
Ed
I think everyone should own a ruger 22/45 Lite. may not be as small as you are looking for, but I'm sure its as light!
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Originally Posted by chinookpilot77
Not even close.....
Ruger .22 - 23.00 oz. http://www.ruger.com/products/2245Lite/models.html
Beretta Bobcat .22 - 11.50 oz. http://www.berettausa.com/products/model-21-bobcat/
Seecamp .32 - 11.50 oz. http://seecamp.com/SizeWeight.pdf
can any of the other ones shoot a 1" group at 25 yards? lol
I suspect that center mass at 5 yards would be sufficient for the intended purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinookpilot77
The Beretta Bobcat .22 is my choice. Reliable!
the beretta and the Taurus have no extractor, so you are utterly dependent upon the polish of the chamber walls and the power of the rd. While it's SA and has some issues that I"ll post about if you like, $100 for a Used Phoenix Arms HP22 is a helluva good deal, if you testfire it first, of course. Quite accurate with 3" barrel, and match grade with the 5" barrel.
Anyone have a Walther P22 with safety issues?? My son bought one last year (nib) and has since had a little issue with $$ and was going to take it back to the Gun store and sell it back, however I know that he would have gotten less half what he paid. So, having part of my Financial aid in safe keeping ( long story, involves having to save 1/3 to cover summer semester since they changed up the program schedule to run straight through with no summer break) I offered to "buy" the gun from them until they get their taxes done. If they decide they no longer want it when they get taxes,then it will be mine for $240.
However now that I have it in hand...the safety does not work. it will fire a round no matter what position the safety is in, I am truely thankful that this is no longer in the house with my grandkids. I really like the gun, but it is gonna be in the shop soon, the boyfriend is going to have the safety fixed. I have no idea how long the safety has been non-functional. Anyone else have this issue with a P22?
Never had that problem with my P-22. I like mine so much that I just bought one for my son.
I have the Walther P22 and love it. Not too big, not too small, and I can hit center mass on human (paper) targets at 50yds.
Nell, I have not had such a problem. Smith and Wesson now owns Walther. If you can find a S&W armorer in your area (or other reputable gun smith), I'm sure they can fix it without too much of an issue.
No. I think I've only tried it once. Just use my finger.Quote:
Originally Posted by nell67
You know what they say about safeties, they'll get you killed.
Okay guys, I called my son and told him that I would be taking the gun to have it repaired. He said mom, the safety is fine,it has a "drop" safety that when the safety switch is on,and you pull the trigger,it stops the firing pin from being able to strike the round.. Sometime today, I will load the mag, and give it a try and see if this is indeed the case.
What I know right now is that even with the safety on, the hammer is activated, and what I know about guns is that equated to firing.
When they brought the gun over they did not bring the manual,box,holster,just the gun. I won't take my sons word for it ( although he has awards for his weapons skills while in the service) I and my boyfriend will give it a try today. It is also supposed to have a key that locks the trigger ( this is what I thought the "safety" was supposed to do) they did not bring that either.
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Originally Posted by nell67
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...usa_Manual.pdf
If the hammer is back and the safety is on, you can pull the trigger and the hammer WILL drop but it will not fire until you take the safety off. With the safety off and the hammer down, your first trigger pull will be heavier until it fires, at which point will leave the hammer back for subsequent shots making the pull lighter.
Hope that helps.
With a drop safety, the firing pin is either rotated away or the firing pin gets blocked. Either way, the hammer drops, but the firing pin is not struck to fire the round.Quote:
Originally Posted by nell67
Yep, sure does. My "paranoia" has been calmed, (thanks for the link to the manual also Ken!) If they had simply brought the manual with them than I would have figured this out. I have never had a gun that works this way, always if the safety was on, you could not pull the trigger at all. Old dog learning new tricks. Oh and trying to fire it confirmed all this info as well!Quote:
Originally Posted by natertot
Thanks guys.
Oh in I did find a post on Youtube where a guy had a catastrophic failure of his P22, when firing it, the slide flew off and backwards striking the shooter in the face. No injuries, but a good reminder why you should wear safety goggles when firing a weapon.
Glad all is well and you didn't have to see a smith.
Just a side note for future reference: Many gun manuals can be found on the manufacture's website. If it is not there, contact the manufacturer and they will send you one free or really close to it. For manufacturers no longer in business, I've had good luck purchasing downloaded manuals from amazon, eBay, gun auction sites or other places that my search engine led me too. I think the most I paid for one was $8. For military guns, check out www.surplusrifle.com for complete disassembly and assembly instructions with color pictures. They can even be printed for free.
Stevespages.com also has a ton of manuals.
http://stevespages.com/page7b.htm
Reading this I was thinking how the hell do you screw up the safety on a P22? Glad you got it figured out.
I chose the P22 when I bought a .22 handgun. Though I would buy a Ruger Single Nine Convertible or a Single Ten if I bought another .22 handgun.
That is a new one to me!!! I now have that one bookmarked too! Thanks, man!Quote:
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