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Came to work early this morning before the lockdown went city wide...... it is a surreal scene in the city. Blackhawks, armored vehicles soldiers everywhere.... I saw like 3 different bomb squads this morning. We ended up getting evacuated out of our jobsite and I'm safe at home about 20 miles outside the city...
What a crazy week it's been, just surreal.
Are any major roads closed?
Crazy week is definitely the right words.
Glad you got out of Beantown.I'm hearing there's 1000s of local law enforcement and Feds all over the place.
The MBT system is shut down.I'm not sure if they started taxi service again.
I left the downtown Crossing area via 93- had no problem... I know you cant get anywhere near watertown and parts of Cambridge.
93 was eerily empty
Honestly, From what I've seen and heard there are over 10,000 Feds, Law Enforcement, and Soldiers
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Originally Posted by NightShade
My son is locked down in Newton.
In all reality,
how does this affect everyone's concept of bug in/bug out, freedom of movement in a crisis situation, how fast TPTB can shut down a major population area and how we prepare for "created" emergencies?
24 hour curview and house to house searches?
I've been thinking about this stuff all day. I have lots of conflicts regarding the door to door searches.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyratshooter
Newton, Belmont, Watertown, Boston, Cambridge, Arlington, Allston-Brighton, Somerville, Brookline, and Waltham all locked down with a shelter order.
Theyre not so much searching houses as they are searching houses for the hostage situation they expect to find. I was in Boston and bugged out. Always gotta be prepared for anything. I parked in a garage right near 93 and Mass Pike interchange... either of which can get me out of the city quickly.
I don't suppose sneaking around with a full Alice rig and EBR woud be good right now....?Quote:
Originally Posted by kyratshooter
.....and shooting small game for food.
LOL Hunter- yea, DEFINETLY wouldnt be wise right now!Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter63
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by hunter63
There's a time to bug out and a time to bug in.
This is an "in"situation.
If you were someone stuck at home though, this WOULD be the perfect time to make sure all your weapons were in functioning order, loaded, and ready for use in case the fugitive tries to make hostages of your family, or in case you happen upon the opportunity to make a citizen's arrest. Just be careful and safe, the police have frayed nerves right now. I hope that this guy gets found soon.
I have a friend in lockdown. She just said "People sheltered in the city for work are now allowed to leave to go home. T still closed, but taxis are running."
I immediately thought about the bug in situation and if I would have been ready. I deem myself totally comfortable for about 4-5 days. Could go longer but would have to ration water.
Then again, we still are covered in snow so I certainly could use some of that.
More from my Boston friend.
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They are bringing full bus loads of police officers in from other towns and states. FULL BUS LOADS!!! The news is showing 15 police officers getting out of a van at once.
I'm attempting to control my suspicious nature but damn it, is it really smart to have so many authorities in ONE freaking area??? Because seriously, if these two guys were not acting alone, this is a brilliant diversion.
They want to get this guy before night fall.
Just more feet on the ground and eyes in the street.
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Originally Posted by GreatUsername
You are dealing with Mass. and the nannystate.
They are doing house to house "inventory", excuse me, search for fugitives.
Put everything away and stash the pistol with its 10 shot limit mag in the desk drawer.
Nothing in plain sight!
You do not want a nervous Mass. LEO walking into your fully armed situation.
Boston PD sure has a bunch of up armored humvees!
That's kind of what I thought. Throw everything you've got at the situation while you still have a chance of catching him. I think she was thinking that this would be a good time for some others to take out a bunch of LEO all at once.Quote:
Originally Posted by letslearntogether47
Where are the wife and kids of the suspect they killed?
They are off the radar completely.
In custory?
The said that the good terrorist (the dead one) has a three year old daughter, but didn't hear any other details.
Quite a few things coming out of this not to my liking.
-Total lockdown and search of houses. Haven't heard if they are just knocking on doors or actually going through houses to make sure no one is coerced. The second makes me uncomfortable.
-The thing about no weapons in sight is good advice. If you aren't holding it, it isn't under your control and they might just arrest you because they can.
- Never before has a city in the US been so shut down because of one man. It looks more like a police exercise than a manhunt. And if they don't find the kid in the last 30% of the Watertown cordon left to search before dark, they are gonna look mighty foolish. 10,000 men can't find 1?
- The entire city is shut down. The news was reporting that al Queda websites were dancing with glee that even if these guys aren't muslim extremists, they are claiming they are and that it is costing Boston hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars in a lost day's revenue and in the paid manpower and equipment out there. Seriously. Armed humvees? One kid on foot, even if he has a belt of explosives, only rates one humvee. Maybe 2.
Meanwhile, in other news, The President is writing or has written an EO on rolling back HIPPA to make states comply with NICS data entry. How far back? who knows? That's the only one I heard today. Are there others? What part about "The people said NO" doesn't he get?
From my friend in Boston.
Although I did see another person say they were not storming in if invited...Quote:
1) they're going house to house in Watertown, storming in to every home with guns drawn, looking in every corner of the house for ONE MAN.
2) they're posting make, model, license plate of cars they are searching for, believing that THIS SAME MAN has hijacked these cars and then dumped them.
What's wrong here?
You should be able to turn them away. Not a choice if the choice is "inviting" or "storming."
The entire city is not shut down. Watertown and surrounding areas are shut down. I as many others expected this guy caught some time this am. It would make absolutely no sense for law enforcement to crash into homes in that area the state.
That is the bastion of a certain party that has a grip on the state. Why PO people there?
The real shock is this guy is still on the lose.
This is what was shut down today:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/19/us/mas...ston-closures/
I'd call that pretty much the entire city.
BTW, they meant Newton, not Newtown.
Never before has one man had the potential capacity to destroy so much. They obviously had bombs in the care with them I just wonder how many this goof ball took with him. I wondered if they intended to plant bombs at MIT and got interrupted by the slain officer.
They're getting him right now... Shootout happening as I type
Reports that a "SUSPECT IS DOWN."
In custody and alive.:smash:
That's what I was thinking,MIT was the next target.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Take notes people. That is what martial law looks like.
Storming peoples homes without reasonable cause and no warrant? WTF happened to due process?
A mark of a just person or government is not how they act when everything is hunky dory, when things go bad, the bad rears its head.
Storming peoples homes?
Interesting,the news must get skewed by the time it reaches the west coast.
Great, now, unless he dies of his wounds, we get to feed him and coddle him and pat him on the head and tell him how misunderstood he is, spend millions of dollars on a trial that will be televised and give this punk more notoriety than the 6 feet deep he should have gotten. The next one will just do something worse. Escalation is the price we pay for giving them after-the-fact fame.
I just hope this kid wasn't licensed.
You have it right and just a warning of what to come in time.It is not what they wanted us to see can be done but they use it to see if they really can do it.That is how i see it.Also for you who dose live there know what the laws are really are and how it is really around there ,not what the media say and some say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winter
I think that the expression "storming homes" is way off base - at least from reports. It that had happened I think it would be all over every conservative, liberal and libertarian site out there.
I guess if I were in my home with a gun to my head and this guy threatening to kill me I might actually want someone to storm my home. That aside, I've seen nothing on social media or the news that the police did anything improper or anything other than go door to door. Quite the opposite. Everyone, even the neighbors in Watertown, are praising them for the job they did. And that's at all levels of LEO. I am a little concerned over the suspension of his Constitutional rights for the sake of "security". This guy apparently became a U.S. citizen in November last year so the Constitution applies to him. If he were still a Russian national then I would not have quiet the concern. I'd still like to hack him up but after he was Marandized and he told us what his agenda was. :devil:
The dead older brother wasn't a US citizen and there was "heads up" about him 2 years ago when the authorities became aware of his Islamic radical rantings on line. I heard (in passing) that the Russians or the Chechens warned the US about him, but there was no follow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I'm sure more will come out.
As far as the younger scumbag in the hospital is concerned, I hope we do everything by the book--can't afford to let him slip by on a technicality.
This is just a reminder about that Patriot Act exception to the Constitution where even an American Citizen can apparently be held indefinitely, or perhaps even executed, without due process in the name of 'security'. Unacceptable. Even for scum like this.