I get asked a lot what 3 go to guns I would carry in a SHTF event. Well there are a ton of different opinions on this subject but here's my thoughts on what I would carry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQn6YG_hUYg
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I get asked a lot what 3 go to guns I would carry in a SHTF event. Well there are a ton of different opinions on this subject but here's my thoughts on what I would carry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQn6YG_hUYg
Nice vid. Good that you played it safe and prefaced it with the "big can of worms" and "like pizza toppings." That should squelch a lot of conjecture & rhetoric.
I agree with your main themes. I pick a .22 rifle, a shotty and a defensive handgun.
I'm not entering a caliber debate with my next statment at all. I'm just giving a hunter/gatherer tip to file away for REALLY rainy days:
Nearly ever police vehicle in this nation has at least one box of .40 cal ammo in the back/trunk.
Good input thanks for watching.. Maybe I should by a box of .40 food for thought.. It might even be a good barter item.Quote:
Originally Posted by TresMon
nice vid I agree with 22 shotgun ,I just perfer 357
Good video, love the backdrop,lol.-
What is the justification for a shotgun? I find them heavy, and expensive and heavy ammo. I feel the .22 will do the shotguns job and defer to a centerfire rifle over a shotty. Calling it a streetsweeper is fuel for the enemy of our rights. Please be cautious with comments like that.
I may want a shotgun in urban environments if my field of fire was shorter and more prone to bystanders. I do like your shottys setup, Clean and high volume.
I chose a shot gun because it ends fights and is a great back up weapon.. I have old folks living with me so bugging out is not a option. So I have to dig in and defend the homestead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winter
They really are a great defensive tool.
12 guage for me, in my opinion it is the most versitile weapon available. Good for hunting and defence.
Well if the SHTF, I have it all covered no matter what. But if I had to bug out, it would be a .22 rifle, and my .357 magnum revolver. And if I had a partner we would have my AR to boot!
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Originally Posted by Winter
Exactly. TO a small degree it depends on geographical region you live in, but If I were asked to write a piece on a shotty as the one weapon to have, I could make a really strong case.Quote:
Originally Posted by postman
example: Let's look at an nice ultra light 20 Ga. auto. Say a Benelli m2..... It's REALLY light and it's ammo for a shotty is not heavy either. And with a mild assortment of various shells I can successfully hunt & kill anything from Moose & Grizz all the way down to House sparrows on the wing. People never seem to stop and think that a shotty with heavy bird shot (duck/goose loads) is effective fishing "tackle" for slipping around the banks & shallows in a water born craft or stalking the banks via land. And I can defend myself effectivly with it as well. Having a small assortment of choke tubes makes it all the better.
I'm not saying it's practical, but it is verstile- You can shoot arrows (modern or primitive) out of them too. Folks 'round here are bad to take deer during archery season with a arrow down the pipe of a .410. A modern arrow do'n well over double the FPS of the the latest, hottest compound bows is serious "archery tackle."
What a sneaky way to get around to "if you had onlt 3 guns"......LOL
Good vid BTW.....
.45 acp on the hip , .45-70 lever action and a shotgun with a combo
Easy. 1911, ar with 5.56 and .22 upper, shotty. (ar upper isn't considered a "gun" for this event. :shifty:)
1. Grease gun.
2. Caulking gun.
3. Jerky gun.
:lol:
I was watching the military channel and they did a segment on gear. They showed the ubiquitous flack jacket. They shot one with #7 shot and the jacket stopped it with no trouble. They shot it again with 00 and it went all the way through and out the back of the jacket. I just thought it was an interesting aside to the conversation on shotguns.
So all the years I spent packing that thing around were just for conditioning.:sad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Apparently.
Based on guns available(between me and my dad) I would take the Remington 870 12 gauge, Winchester 94 .22, and a Beretta 9mm... although the two Ruger .44 revolvers are tempting just cus I'd feel like a badass cowboy :P
Bolt .308 with peep sights and if we were allowed .22lr pistol
Oh yea I would also have to consider my Remington 7600 in 30-06. With a 10 round clip and pump action you get a lot of metal flying through the air with plenty of stopping power. I have the carbine 18.5" barrel so it is easier to handle. I really like this gun and it can take down a lot of game... or an assailant if need be.
I've read the 7600 is a 1000 round weapon. After that you start having problems. And accuracy suffers when the barrel gets hot. I like the concept of the 7400 (semi-auto). Have you had any trouble?
So far I haven't had any trouble. Took a few mags to get the pump action rhythm down, but now it shoots very nicely. I still don't have a scope for it so I haven't had much of a chance to do real solid accuracy tests, but I did plenty of research before I bought the gun. The consensus online is that accuracy goes Rem 700, the 7600 a close second, and the 7400 noticeably worse. I believe the 7600 shares the same free float barrel design of the 700 and the 7400 doesn't. So I haven't had 1000 rounds through the gun yet, and still need a scope to give you a good grouping, but I've read again and again that the 7600 can shoot tight groups. 1" groups at 100 yards, 2" groups at 200 yards with a solid rest. Plus they are realllly popular in PA for deer hunting.
Additionally they are insanely customizable. Because they are such a close resemblance to a shotty, they have just about all the same custom features you get with a shotgun. Heres some examples of a 7600 customized for police work. They are also popular prison guard guns and really popular in Australia.
Attachment 7423
Heres a video of a custom 7600 doing a shooting exercise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw2I-mzGZvM
(I have a few pending responses to this thread that are the same and that I thought didn't go through so if the mod could delete one of those posts that would be great)
I took care of them. Until you reach 10 posts any post you make with a link will go to a moderation que. It helps keep spam down. Once you have 10 posts you can post directly with no need for moderation.
Oh ok good to know.
Im surprised there aren't more responses for ARs.
I have come across this as well....Most hunting guns would suffer from being fired continuously over a period of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
They weren't designed for that....they were designed for accurate shots, at game, once or a couple of times a year.
I'm sure the 7400 is in the same boat.
When ever read about old military rifles being used as a SHTF weapon, my line of thinking was "why not just save a little more money and get your self a decent hunting rifle?"......that said I was looking at it as hunting rifle, not a defense/offense rifle...with the ability to keep firing no matter what.
So I guess I have changed my thinking somewhat, and begun to appreciate the merits of the "old soldiers" (or new), and gave me an excuse to add to the collection....and try to stay out of the river with the canoe.
My number one choice is still shot gun 12 ga pump, .357 wheel gun. and .22.....although I have been leaning toward the AR platform.
Hmm an AR would be nice if this "SHTF" scenario turned into a combative situation to deal with looters, organized mobs, etc. Also a "SHTF" scenario could go as far as international relations get sticky and we're dealing with an invasion (China, Iran)... or possibly an internal crisis results in dare i say a revolution(Economic Inequality)?
A pump shotty would handle most of the hunting duties in addition to trapping, foraging, fishing, etc. you are set for food. Plus with buck shot it can take down just about anyone and a slug could do work on any light body armor. So close range combat a shotgun could do a lot of the dirty work.
Having a hand gun would be necessary as a secondary weapon for self defense and a quick back up in a squeeze(no time to reload, primary weapon malfunction).
Then it comes down to hunting rifle vs. AR. IMO I would probably go with the hunting rifle. Not only would it be more effective at taking larger game than trying to take a deer/elk/moose with a shotgun, but a hunting rifle and a sniper rifle are pretty much synonymous. Snipers are some of the most efficient military personnel and can be a major headache for an enemy force. Plus survival skills, primitive hunting skills, etc. all play in very well with the role of a sniper.
All you could ever really need in a SHTF situation is 5 guns. An AR .223, Varmint gun .223, a .22 rifle, a 12 gauge shotgun, and an autoloading pistol like a Glock. Of course I have way more than this, but I'm saying that would easily keep you ready for almost any situation.
For a good rounded gun, I would chose an AR in .308. Great for all game in my neck of the woods, effective on persons even with a fair amount of armour, and with a scope you can still take long distance kills. Do I own one? Nope. But I sure wish I did!
For a shotty, a pump 12 or 20 would be my choice. Effective and reliable for everything in 100yds and versatile just by varying your ammo selection.
Pistol, I would go with a semi-auto such as a Glock, Ruger, S&W, etc in either 9mm or .40. They are reliable, the rounds work, and the ammo is popular so acquiring more in a pinch is a bit more than feasable.
Being prepared means you always have one gun with you at all times though and the best one is the one you have til you get to the rest.
No one has mentioned the savage over and under. for a survival gun I think their single shot .222 on top and .20 guage shotgun on the bottom is a great gun. I've used mine on outings for 2o plus years. I'' thinking along the lines of food more than self protection. I'd also carry a handgun for that. I've taken deer and grouse with my little gun.
.222 and a .20 guage would be sweet! I miss my old .22cal .410 over and under I used to hunt with when I was a kid.Quote:
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