I've missed a lot of posts so if this has been posted on let me know and I'll delete it. This is the very scenario that many of us have criticized Bear for. It was only a matter of time IMHO.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ntain-hut.html
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I've missed a lot of posts so if this has been posted on let me know and I'll delete it. This is the very scenario that many of us have criticized Bear for. It was only a matter of time IMHO.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ntain-hut.html
We all gotta go sometime....was he wrong following his dream?.....I don't think so, at least he did his home work and was equiped, but as we all know "Stuff Happens".
To blame this on Bear, or any one, no matter how silly they may be, is just stupid.........he could have been hit by a bus, leaving his house to cash his welfare check??????
Can't argue that.Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter63
I wouldn't blame it on Bear no more than I would blame Paula Dean for the obesity rate in the US.
However, I do blame the guy himself; dream or no dream, he apparently wasn't prepared enough.
Unfortunately it cost him his life.
Well ya just gotta know your limitations, and he didn't!
Agreeing with BENESSE here! First, every episode of M. v. W. starts off with a disclaimer NOT to try and duplicate what is shown on the program without expert advice! Also he was an adult, had taken some courses, but just wasn't prepared enough unlike B.G.! There was no camera crew to bail him out, no Inn close by, and maybe, just maybe, he ran out of urine to drink! :sneaky2: :innocent: :whistling:Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
On the serious side, this is what I've always feared, somebody thinking that "survival" is a game rather than "life or death!" :cool2:
Is anyone ever "prepared enough"?..........Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
Point is that "stuff happens" you can't protect everybody, they have to be allowed to make mistakes and take consequences for those own actions.
Did bear give him the idea?, probably, did he head out with out enough knowledge?, most likely.......was it Bears fault?....I don't agree at all,.... that on him or his maker.
Or just bad luck?
Just imagine... there are a lot of medical series in the television. But we won't make a surgery on our friend because we saw that on the TV and read the biology book.
Bad luck can happen to anyone, but common sense can stack the odds in your favor. JMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter63
"Reality TV" also reared its ugly head when the Mythbusters fired a cannon ball into a neighbor's home.
Reality starts (IMHO!) when you power down the computer/game console/TV, put down the book and start living in the real world. :)
Yeah, and +1!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kortoso
So how come he didn't have a film crew with him?
There's always a disclaimer at the beginning of every survival show I've watched.
Of all the "survival" show's that I have seen, none have been for more than a week, so they say, and all are trying to get back to the city, not staying away for a year. I just think the young man didn't think this through, it is too bad.
Well, that's what the guy did; had he spent any time on this forum and heeded advice of many a sage members, he would have prepared better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kortoso
Get your learning any way you can, as many different ways you can, then go out and practice what you've learned. Everything has it's place in the big picture. And that's the real world. At least from what I've been able to observe.
The show Man,Woman Wild episode last week was in the Scottish highlands.
Looks like a pretty baron wilderness.They had to use stones for a wind break as there's no trees.Raining and windy almost 90% of the time.
Stupid people emulating stupider people!
Almost right, Imagine frozen tundra but with soggy peat bog. It's desolate. I've been there once and from the warmth and security of the car, I felt cold and depressed!Quote:
Originally Posted by letslearntogether47
People always underestimate their knowledge. It's always true.
That would mean you are underestimating the truth of your statement. So is it actually a fact? One wonders.........
I have done primitve skills there in the Highlands. Just like the survival instructor said in the piece: The landscape has been denuded of trees and it wide open. It;s exposure central. And the Highlands are weird: You can swim in the north Sea comfortably but can see a snow/ice line on top of the mountain peeks, the monroe's- just/only 3000' !
Darwin Award candidate
Yeah, remember that guy that lived with grizzley bears? I think it was in Cananda somewhere, and it was big news when he got eatin by a bear. When I saw the documentary on TV about him, I would have bet my house that he was not long for this earth! Then a year later, it happened!
It is interesting how some people convince themselves that they can get a way with things that most people wouldn't even think about doing!
So I'm heading to eastern Montana everyone to live nude for a month and am bringing a stone knife, 4 toothpicks, and a doo rag. wish me luck. :P
Pic's ior it didn't happen.....oh wait...never mind.....hery good luck...what are the tooth picks for...?
This time o' year in Montana he ain't gonna be wearin that doo rag in the normal place, that fo' shur.
As I said before, I don't believe that Bear Grylls was directly responsible for the young man's death. The fellow was an adult and perfectly capable of deciding things for himself, however, it does prove that the things that Bear does on his show are not on par with real survival training. One case in point that I feel needs to be mentioned again is the "urine drinking." People are quick to point out that Bear was a member of the SAS; well, I've got John "Lofty" Wiseman's book on SAS survival and he states right in there to NEVER drink your own urine.("The SAS Survival Handbook: How to Survive in the Wild, In Any Climate, On Land Or At Sea." Page 42 under the heading: WARNING! Urine And Sea Water!) So where is Bear getting his information? Not from the SAS, that's for sure. I hope this never happens again, but I'm afraid that it will. :cool2:
I think Bear drinks it because it's sterile and he likes the taste.:helpsmilie:
First, a prayer for the young man... Now for putting blame on someone, hard to do. Bear is a adventurist and has challenged himself in many ways that the average person would never be able to do. I believe there is still a primitive desire for man to challenge himself, we see it all the time here on the forum. We all have it or the topic of survival wouldn't be interesting to us. This same desire has lead men to great discoveries as well as tragic losses throughout history. Climbing Mt. Everest, sailing a small boat around the world, walking the Appalachian Trail, and deep sea diving for treasure, are just a few examples of extreme adventures people do today. With the proper preparation all these are considered reasonable adventures, but loss of life is a possibility of all of them. Reasonable preparation is the key, Man's desire to push himself will never change.
We can always blame it on the government for not providing heat in the little shack he sheltered in!
These things always remind me of my Grandfather. No not some imaginary Indian friend, my real grandfather.
He was born when we were still having Indian wars out west, grew up in the Tennessee hills and could find food and stay comfortable when you would have thought it impossible.
When the sky turned dark and the wind came up and the temperature dropped several degrees he had a saying I will always remember as some of his best advice. He would look at the sky and say:
"Kids its getting bad we better get to the house!"
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