Garlic and onions

Okay, ANY root veggie ALWAYS gives me a hard time, but these two I really, really want to have in my garden more. I ALWAYS fail. Lord knows why, because I HEAR Garlic is supposed to be easy as pie. :sneaky2:
Anyone here have any luck with these two and would care to give me some pointers that have worked for them?

I haven't done well with either yet. I missed my onions in a matter of days due to heat! I planted "sets" which grew to maturaty quickly and died quickly. By the time I thought to pull one up I had mushy onions.

I'm no authority but on the onions keep the dirt pulled back from the bulb so it is free to grow. If it attempts to seed then break the top down so the seed pod doesn't form. That's assuming you don't want seeds. Onion will be fine over wintering in the garden and come right back up next year. So if you have small onions or you don't have room for all that's in the garden just leave them, they'll be fine. At least they have been here in Indiana. They might freeze out in Michigan and maybe in NE, Pa.

I've actually never had any problems at all with garlic. They grow a lot like onions except you want the top bulb since that's where the garlic is on most versions. They will also over winter around here. I have some garlic in the garden now that will be 3 years old this year. I really don't do anything to the garlic except water it and pick it. The variety I have looks just like grass when it sprouts so it would be easy to pull it thinking it's a weed if you weren't careful.

I know that's not much info. but I don't have much trouble with them.

My onions and garlic do just fine. I think the key is to establish them in a place that is NOT the garden. Ours grow wild in the yard and they are there every year. Have been for as long as I can remember. I dig one or two at a time and make sure to leave enough to go to seed for next year. I'm fairly sure these are not domesticated varieties, tho.

not sure if it helps, but the pH of my soil is around 6.5

I've had good success with onions. I don't really do anything special - plant - water - eat.

For onions and garlic check your soil. All roots grow better in loamy, rock free ground. [that said, they will grow anywhere]. O & G have bunch roots that will grow as long as a foot in depth. They need growing medium to this point. A spot all by itself, with well aged manure. Plant garlic in mid to late Sept. Place the cloves flat circle down, [the spot where it was attached to the mother clove] cover so the top of the planted clove is 1/4" under the ground. Let grow for 15 or so days. Cover with mulch before the first frost.

Onions, [depending on type] plant in spring. Onion seed should be covered with a very fine cover, not very deep. Keep constantly moist....most critical, as they swell, and break the seed coat. More onions die this way, not kept moist.
Also onion seed is fickle. It doesn't like to sprout past 2 to 3 years old. Have fun gardening.

I've had trouble growing Garlic, it always seems to die off before it gets to maturity. I do have great success with Shallots and this year I have onions growing from seed, so we'll see how they go. But I echo what everyone else has said. the allium family don't like being buried. If you really can't grow onions and Garlic, how about Garlic Chives and Welsh onions. Both are perennials and may be worth a try.

Some great advice from all! Seems I've got a lot of problems to deal with. I have a lot of rocks and clay in PA...so that will need to be addressed. Maybe I'll just put them in my herb garden, as they are in raised rock wall beds with ALL amended soil. Because they stand about 3.5" tall or so...that should be a decent buffer. I also think I buried them too deep. I'll give them more space. ;)

I shared these pics somewhere else, but thought this might be a good place for them too. These are the little pearl onions. They grow under pecan trees in the ditch. They aren't sprouting right now, but I should start seeing them next month.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...s/DSCN3931.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...s/DSCN3934.jpg

Thank you! Those pictures are great! So, my goal now is to get some to take and I will never have to deal with it again. LOL!

I trie and experiment last year that an older man told me he puts leave mulch in his onion bed about 2 inches deep and puts the sets just barley at the top of the ground when thay grow nothing to restrict them but if you have a very wet year they will rot away

If you think about it, plants in the wild, including wild onion and wild garlic, just drop their seeds on the ground. Nothing special about that. Small seeds like onion, spinach and lettuce I just scatter on the ground. Onion sets I poke a whole in the ground just deep enough to for the plant to sit in. That's usually about 1/2 inch or so. Generally the first knuckle on my index finger.

I've never had much success with onion bulbs or garlic either.

Green onions I can grow like crazy, but the biggest bulb I've ever gotten is like an inch and a half. I leave them as a perennial and just harvest the greens.

My onions and garlics are sprouting all over the place. Spring is in the air!! I'll try to get some pictures this evening if I get home before dark:30

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