Gun Sights/ Weapon Of choice

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08-19-2010, 08:37 PM
Justin Case

Gun Sights/ Weapon Of choice

Do you have a Favorite ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_sight

Personally, I use the point and shoot method with regard to handguns, seldom use the sights,
I think hunting with a scope on a rifle is cheating, My Rifle of choice for Hiking/hunting and all around carry in your truck, Is a Winchester model 94, 30/30.

My second Rifle choice for hiking/camping would have to be an M1 carbine,

my Handgun of choice is my Colt Combat Commander series 70 45 acp. (The only gun I refused to sell to make ends meet after being laid off 2 years ago)
08-19-2010, 09:07 PM
Rick

Well, whichever one is with me. I'm getting to the age that a scope is pretty much required equipment for anything over...oh....10 feet.
08-19-2010, 09:10 PM
Beo

WOW great topic,
As far as a handgun for me, I like my Glock 21 in .45 and mostly for me it's point shooting too, although for shots twenty five feet and further (no further than 75 feet) I use the sights and mine have the tritium-illuminated night sights with a laser on the bottom front of the trigger guard.
As far as hunting when camping and hiking or plinking (yeah I go plinking it's great for snap shooting) I use a Smith & Wesson MP15-22. Although before getting this weapon I used a Rugger 10/22. The MP15-22 sights are the adjustable Folding Battle Sights and I mounted a EOTech 512 Holosight Reflex/Red Dot Sight on it. (I also have one in 5.56 and I love it too) Now I'm an AR man so this is just me, there are some great rifles out there for plinking and hiking, camping, small game hunting.
On my Rugger 10/22 I had a typical Tasco 4x power scope.
Now for long stays in wild, for a rifle I have a heavy barreled Remington 700 chambered in the Winchester .300 magnum. Love this rifle, I topped it off with a Redfield Accutrac Scope that reads your range and windage for you printing it on the screen (scope lens), (before anyone says anything the scope is only around $300 to $350 bucks but to me it's worth it.
As far as scopes being cheating... not sure, my Remington 700 didn't even have iron sights but then again its for big game anyway. On my .22s... hmmm yeah on the S&W it maybe cheating since it had iron sights but I wanna make sure I make a fair clean kill with no pain to the animal I'm hunting regardless if its a fur bearer or fowl or bird of some sorts or heck even a big azz carp sunning on the waters surface.
Just my opinion
Beo,

Again great thread. Thanks I wanna see what the others use and say.
08-19-2010, 09:38 PM
klickitat

There is no such thing as cheating when it comes to shooting. I shoot to kill weather that is for food or to protect. I always use the very best sighting system I can and I use the sights ALWAYS!

The first accurate shot wins.

I shoot a CZ75 9mm and can take 1 gallon jugs of water out to 80 yrds all day long every day. I routinely win bowling pin matches with my stock CZ75 against Grand Masters using Wilson race .45's. I win because I use my sights and I do not shoot till I am on target. I am steady and consistent. The guys who point shoot tend to spray and pray until all the pins are scared.

As for rifles, well that all depend on the terrain that I am working.

West side over clear cuts: Rem. 700 30-06 with a 3-9 Nikon or PSL in 7.62x54r with 6-18 Nikon

West side jack firs: Rem. 1889 Side by Side 12g with slugs on the right and bird shot on the left

West side brush coyote/bobcats AR15 with a red dot for daylight and a Yukon night vision scope for night time.

East side big game .30-06

East side coyote/bobcats AR15 with a red dot for daylight and a Yukon night vision scope for night time.

East side coyotes on the open plains Ruger M77 in 25-06 topped with a 6-18 Nikon

Birds of all types and on both sides I use a Crescent side by side in 16 g. and adjust the shot size for the game. Open bead. hehehe
08-19-2010, 09:41 PM
SARKY

For point and shoot Ruger MKII and MKIII, Beretta 92SB, Tokarev, and HK-4
For long guns Ruger 44 Carbine, M-77 in 7.62x39, 10-22 and Marlin lever gun in .41 Mag.
As to your .30 Carbine,......depending on the bullet type, it is a poor choice of cartridge.
As to scopes, cheating?????!!!! I think NOT!!!! Take every advantage you can!
08-19-2010, 09:50 PM
Beo

Ohhhhhhhhhh yeah well said on the "Scopes are Cheating" my friends. Great posts wish I could've put that into words... but I was thinking it... lol
Beo,
08-19-2010, 10:14 PM
Justin Case

I guess i am just old fashioned, I hate having a scope to worry about hanging up in brush etc,, If I cant get close enough to shoot it with a 30/30 then I will not shoot it,, JMHO :)

also, an M1 carbine in my opinion is a perfect hiking/camping rifle, Light weight, 30 rnds,,, I had an Iver Johnson and carried it on many trips,, LOVED it :)
08-19-2010, 10:29 PM
klickitat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Case

I guess i am just old fashioned, I hate having a scope to worry about hanging uo it brush etc,, If I cant get close enough to shoot it with a 30/30 then I will not shoot it,, JMHO :)

Learn to shoot irons then keep them as a back up, but always use what give you the advantage. Learn to stalk your prey, but the further away you can kill it from, the better your success rate.

it's good to learn all the primitive skills so that you have a good foundation and skills to fall back on. Now take the very best in technology and instead of surviving you are thriving.

The % of success directly correlates to the % of survival.
08-19-2010, 10:30 PM
sthrnstrong

Open sights work best for the area I live. Most shots are within a 100 yrds and usually within thick brush. A scope on my Marlin 336 .35 Remington would be kind of silly in the terrain that I hunt, hike, fish, and camp. My sights and weapon of choice for my area are perfect for me.
08-20-2010, 12:00 AM
hunter63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Case

Do you have a Favorite ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_sight

Personally, I use the point and shoot method with regard to handguns, seldom use the sights,
I think hunting with a scope on a rifle is cheating, My Rifle of choice for Hiking/hunting and all around carry in your truck, Is a Winchester model 94, 30/30.

My second Rifle choice for hiking/camping would have to be an M1 carbine,

my Handgun of choice is my Colt Combat Commander series 70 45 acp. (The only gun I refused to sell to make ends meet after being laid off 2 years ago)

Spoken like a young man....Tell me again in say 20 years........

When I went to the eye Dr and he says, "Well you used to be able to see the eagle in the tree a mile away?"
"I says yeah."
Then he says "Well you can't any more because your eyes are getting bad....use a scope"
So I said "OK"

Then "Honey need a bunch of scopes..............."

I could really use "Night vision" on my BYB pellet gun, getting hard to see on a moon less nite.......Lazer does light up the eyeball though.
08-20-2010, 04:08 AM
SARKY

Just what are you using the .30 carbine for and what kind of ammo are you using????
I reload , so I load the Horady .30 cal XTP bullets in it, and while those might be OK for the dog sized deer here in CA. I sure wouldn't use it on the whitetails I hunted in Maine.
I have an Iver Johnson Ferret (a .30 carbine barreled to .256mag) It shoots pretty flat out to 150 yards and so it is scoped. My other .30 carbines I consider 50 yard guns. It's a matter of energy, bullet construction and inherit accuracy of the round and gun.
08-20-2010, 07:19 AM
Justin Case

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunter63

Spoken like a young man....Tell me again in say 20 years........

When I went to the eye Dr and he says, "Well you used to be able to see the eagle in the tree a mile away?"
"I says yeah."
Then he says "Well you can't any more because your eyes are getting bad....use a scope"
So I said "OK"

Then "Honey need a bunch of scopes..............."

I could really use "Night vision" on my BYB pellet gun, getting hard to see on a moon less nite.......Lazer does light up the eyeball though.

LOL, Well I cant argue with that logic :)
08-20-2010, 07:20 AM
Justin Case

Quote:

Originally Posted by SARKY

Just what are you using the .30 carbine for and what kind of ammo are you using????
I reload , so I load the Horady .30 cal XTP bullets in it, and while those might be OK for the dog sized deer here in CA. I sure wouldn't use it on the whitetails I hunted in Maine.
I have an Iver Johnson Ferret (a .30 carbine barreled to .256mag) It shoots pretty flat out to 150 yards and so it is scoped. My other .30 carbines I consider 50 yard guns. It's a matter of energy, bullet construction and inherit accuracy of the round and gun.

Hiking and camping gun ,,,,,,,,,,,, whatever was cheap.
08-20-2010, 08:36 AM
Pal334

Like Rick said, I probably do need some sort of scope , but I just won't admit it for now.

My choices, plain Jane 1911 (I bet that suprised some of you :) ) and a double barrel 12guage. Not perfect, but I am comfortable with it.
08-20-2010, 12:50 PM
kyratshooter

I had catarac surgery in January in the right eye. I can see like a kid again.

For sights, I say to each his own. I was half blind long enough to have scopes on everything, including a couple of revolvers that would make good Star Wars props.

My 1911 has a melted micro and a shotgun bead.

My home defense shotgun has a strip of florescent tape up the rib.

I have one 20ga pump set up with an LER scope.

Various rifles have various devices for their intended purpose. I may be hunting over a soybean field one day and in the deep bush the next.

The first thing I did after the eye surgery was take the scope off my '94. It did not carry right or balance properly. It was the old model with the side mount. It now has a firefly front bead and a Willians Guide ghost ring rear.

The old thing about "if it is farther away I will not shoot at it" is fine when you have a freezer full of food back home. I have taken some shots I probably should not have taken because I knew there was no meat in the freezer back home.

Due to that situation I can attest to the fact that a 12 ga, low base load of #6 shot will kill a deer at 10-12 yards. He jumped in front of me and that was what I had in my hands. That was 30 years ago so I hope the statute of limitations is out on it. Besides, that deer attacked me and the wife and kids ate the evidence.
08-20-2010, 01:09 PM
Justin Case

I do not hunt to put meat in the freezer, I would only hunt in a survival situation, i honestly believe I can go to the store and buy Prime beef/pork a lot cheaper than the overall cost of a hunting trip,,, just my opinion,
08-20-2010, 01:46 PM
rebel

Peep sights still work for me. I put a set on a Marlin lever gun. I like it better than a scope for hunting in brush.
08-20-2010, 02:20 PM
hunter63

I do like iron sights, always have.

By age 12, I had already worn out several Daisy BB guns, rifles and pistols, got pretty good at throwing up and shooting, including old bottles out of the air.
I guess you could say instinctive shooting.

Then things started getting harder to see.

But when I saw an old shooter shooting his ML at the range, rear sight had been dove-tailed forward a couple of times making it closer to the front sight, I asked him about it.

He said that with his glasses, he could see the rear sight, or the front sight, but had a problem seeing both together, as well as the target.
Then he laughed and said that when the rear sight touches the front sight, it's time to put it away..............

I had to teach my self to pick up a target through the scope.
Seemed like the scope compressed the trees/bushes and made it hard for me.
Really helps to shoot with both eyes open

So, so far it's been scopes for me, haven't got into the red dot, lasers and such as they are considered "shinning" for game, (illegal) so haven't taken them serious.
08-20-2010, 03:55 PM
Sourdough

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebel

Peep sights still work for me. I put a set on a Marlin lever gun. I like it better than a scope for hunting in brush.

Ditto: Times 2 too the second power.......:):):)
08-20-2010, 03:55 PM
kyratshooter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Case

I do not hunt to put meat in the freezer, I would only hunt in a survival situation, i honestly believe I can go to the store and buy Prime beef/pork a lot cheaper than the overall cost of a hunting trip,,, just my opinion,

OK, this is a good one.

When you are broke, the freezer is empty, there are two kids about to get real hungry and a deer is standing in front of you, it IS survival hunting! It does not matter if your neighbor is making $100,000, the economy is fantastic and the "Great Goomba" has not declared SHTF, if you are in a rough patch it is survival.

This is the diference between the urban and rural survivalist. Urbanites GO HUNTING, rural people go out the back door and shoot food on the way to the outhouse. All of life is a search for the necessities.

In that particular situation I had not gone out the door looking for a deer, I was cutting firewood. The deer made its presence known, it was harvested like any other crop. I know a lot of folk that do most of their deer shooting while feeding the prime beef you buy at the store. Deer come out of the woods to eat with the cattle and the farmers harvest them, usually with pistols. Head shots off the hay wagon. You sell cattle, you eat deer.

My license costs me $35. That covers Bow, muzzle loader, regular gun. We do not even check them in any more, we call them in. After my first 5 I have to dial up the phone and get a number allowing me to shoot the next, then the next. After 5 they charge me $2 each for the numbers. I can not buy prime beef for $2-3/100 lb.

It is just a matter of where we live. KY is a great place. Legal open carry and if you do not hunt you are the strange one.
08-20-2010, 04:28 PM
2dumb2kwit

I like open, squared off sights. Does that make any sense? I mean I like a square groove in the rear sight, and a squared off front sight. I don't shoot as well with a bead/rounded type front sight. (Even though that's what is on my marlin lever gun, and that is probably my go to gun. That or a shotgun (Rem 870) which also has a bead front sight.) LOL

I'm not really a handgun kind of guy. If I want easy carry and some capacity, I'd probably grab the CZ-82. If I want knock down power, I'd grab the S+W 44 mag.
08-20-2010, 04:41 PM
2dumb2kwit

...Oh...I should add, that my eyes are getting to the point of needing a scope, for alot more than I used to. LOL

All in all, I say use the right tool for the job.
08-20-2010, 06:15 PM
Batch

Depends on the gun. My .30-30 doesn't have a scope. But, my .30-06 does. If I can gain an advantage I'll take it.

Cheatins eatin. :innocent:
08-20-2010, 06:36 PM
Winter

Favorite for what purpose?
08-20-2010, 07:50 PM
Ole WV Coot

I use and practice point shooting with my defensive 45. It is plenty accurate for self defense and after 50+yrs I do believe I can hit what I want up to a reasonable distance. I use anything to give me an advantage but this area open sights are enough. It's whatever works for you, mainly for a fast, clean kill. Don't knock point shooting, it's like pointing your finger if you are very familiar with handguns. I kinda learned to take a BB gun and hit another BB in the air back in the mid '60s and it wasn't spray and pray with a rifle and forget sights, you didn't have the luxury of seeing them. I don't hunt much but shoot often so use everything you can afford to help you make a clean kill or hit on a target.
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