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No worries. We know what has to be done.
How much time is left on her enlistment?
She extended to come up here so I believe it is in July 2011, so 13 months.
It's like buying a home. You know what you are signing. So, be responsible and do what you signed on for. Sorry.
If she goes Chase doesn't that double her commitment? I know she'll be in reserves and she can probably get in a unit here in Indiana but wouldn't she be looking at 26 months?
You may not like too hear this but i feel that she agreed to extend and should live up to that agreement.Quote:
Originally Posted by doug1980
That is the norm and that would be ok. It's not like she wants to skate out of her commitment but our lives have changed and it's either she gets out or gets kicked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I guess your other option would be to talk to Separations and see if the Air Force is offering any special programs. You service is over objective on recruitments isn't it? They might be offering something.
It's the Airforce! How bad could it be?
@ Rebel - You don't have a cause do you?
No. Just trying to understand. I'm not getting the full picture. There is some omitted info.
Rebel without a cause. Get it? (snap, snap) Try to keep up, will ya?
Yea. I'll shut-up. I need to check the garden.
Doug - What's the Air Force designation? AFSC? Can she change AFSC if that's the problem?
Doug - I've got pretty strong feelings about military folks that voluntarily enlist (and then extend to get something they want) honoring their commitment. Probably not what you're looking to hear, but the Air Force held up their end of the bargain.
There is still that "Don't ask, Don't tell" thing.
It's a long story mostly the new mom thing. Just looking at options to see what's possible and whats not. Most likely she will finish strong like we both want her to. It's just a lot of BS that is not needed and not her fault. Thanks for the info and the understanding.
Doug - She may well be going through some postpartum depression. It's pretty common. Have her talk to her OB. If this just came up after the baby then that may be what you're looking at.
Yeah maybe. I don't know in three days she has been chewed out 3 times and given paperwork. She got paperwork for misplacing her ID on her first day back. She got paperwork for not being able to come in at 0600 on her second day because the only babysitter we have opens at 0700. And today she got paperwork because she had to pick the baby up from the babysitter instead of doing PT, which she did 10 minutes later. The Military is full of paperwork happy morons who have no idea how to supervise these days. And I have the pleasure of seeing it every single day and it pains me. She was Airman of the Year and got Airman Below the Zone but here she is view as a dirt bag Airman for no reason.
And you think civilian life would be any better?
I have a friend that was "written up" for rolling her eyes while a supervisor was talking to her group. This is a 57 year old nurse with 35 years on the job. Another friend lost a $15,000 bonus for being late twice in one year. My wife was once charged $50 for a new ID as a fine for losing hers.
My two stepsons reciently exited the Marine Corps. It has been the most tramatic experience in their lives! After two tours in Iraq and attaining Sgt rank they are now just the new guy, making 1/3 what they were a year ago, and lucky to have a job at all.
If she is late or has no ID she's going to get repremended. That is life in or out of the service.
I personally don't think it's postpartem. I think it's what we down here in the south call "new mom" syndrome. It's complicated, but when a baby is born, the mother's brain goes through a chemical wash and get's reprogrammed. It is a baby bonding "rewiring" if you will. I personally think that 1 year will fulfill her commitment, and while it might be tough, the rewards at the end will far outweigh the struggle now.
With the dwindling economy, lack of jobs, etc. I would have to finish out my commitment, just for the job security. New babies can be VERY expensive medically, and if anything were to go wrong (God, forbid) at least you would have the very best medical attention you could get.
Talk about it, and even though you and she might not really WANT to finish it out, I think it is in your families best interest to do so. At 30 years old with 3 kids, I can tell you that doctors are NOT cheap, nor are medicines.
I'm not the military type, myself. I have a bit of a problem with authority figures calling me a pathetic maggot, etc. It could be worse though.. you could be stuck being a roofer.
Thanks for that. Makes perfect sense and is exactly what I think we should do. She'll come around I'm sure just takes time like you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by your_comforting_company
Sorry to hear she's not too happy right now. But, it's only a year and it will go fast. Maybe she just needs to get back in the swing of things. You are working towards a goal. Also, if you focus on the negative things always look worse. Also, if you are at work and dwelling on how much you hate being at work you will probably make a lot of mistakes, then you get in trouble, then you hate your job even more. :(
I don't know what you do for work but what are you doing at 6am? Could you drop the baby off at the sitter so she can get where she needs to be on time?
Doug - I've got to ask, and I hope I'm not out of line - in many of your posts since you have joined the forum you have indicated that you couldn't wait to get out of Alaska and down to the lower 48 again. Some (only some) of your statements indicated to me that you were having a miserable time. Could it be that some of your attitude about not wanting to be there has influenced her behavior? If so, I think you may control the answer to the problem.
Quite the contrary actually. She is more miserable here than I am. She absolutely hates being here. I think the baby being born, coupled with everything that is going on, finally came to a head. But it's no worries now she will finish her last year of her enlistment and everything will be fine. Luckily I was able to get my boss to let me come in at 0730 instead of my usual 0600 so I can take baby to the sitter. I'll have to work late but it is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Long, dark winters take thier toll on people. This last one was getting to me too and I have lived here all my life. Cabin fever is real thing that needs to recogonized and dealt with. It affects everybody to different degrees and being around others that can't handle makes it worse. I would think long stays on a submarine would have similar affects. Was this addressed in your training?Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Believe me - I know what it is like to go for long periods without seeing the sun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Survivalist
Yeah, but you guys had all those wilderness skills schools like knapping and fire starting to keep you occupied in the sub.
That and Weapons Systems Readiness Tests (launching the nuclear wessels).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
From a NCOs view point, I would say stick it out and make it work. In order for the military to fuction as it does they have to stick to the rules whether she has received some commendations or not, the rules do not change. I personally had to chapter out a decorated soldier who served in Kosovo and the Army for 15 years for misconduct. My soldiers do not get extra time to take their children to the sitter or be allowed to miss PT. A soldier who does not have children has as much responsibility to the military as one who does. I would suggest she dig in and prove her supperiors wrong, that should stop the problems. That or extend again and request to be transfered someplace else. I wish you and her luck :)
And the same is true in the civilian world. Absenteeism, for any reason, had to be below 3% or disciplinary action was started.
I can vouch for the civilian world. I have been a single Dad for a long time. What it means is I make arrangements and get no breaks for being a Dad and Mom. Just try harder make it work...it is what I do.
I'm proud of you for doing that. Good Job brother!Quote:
Originally Posted by doug1980
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