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So for those who didn't fill out their census forms and return them on time,expect a knock on your door anytime.
However,DO NOT open the door for anyone claiming to be from the census without seeing their I.D.
Here are 2 good reasons why you shouldn't,and the Pekin one happened just a few miles from where I live.
http://www.whas11.com/news/Houston-M...-93326744.html
http://www.whas11.com/news/crimetrac...-93319034.html
Thanks for the heads up. Something like that is easy to take for granted in a small town like this. It's always good to be aware of wooly wolves.
The guy that came to my door the other day showed his i.d. right away...before I got a chance to ask for it. I didnt have to answer any questions I didnt want to (he was okay with that) and the whole visit lasted less than 5 minutes. I would say that if they dont show i.d. right away (based on the guy) then something might be up.
It's always good to be aware of your surroundings, especially when strangers are at your door. Thanks for the reminder Nell.
Thanks for the reminder, it's far too easy to get complacent about "officials" knocking at the door and getting scammed(or worse)
If you sent a completely filled out form, do they come to your home?
No,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, also, I know someone that has been hired to do this, She was given Id AND one of those Orange Vests, just fyi ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Old GI
No official news link yet, but rumor has it (there are advantages to living in a small town) that someone tried to do this very same thing last week down at the lake (there are also disadvantages to living in a small town).
The little old lady was smart to answer her door with a shotgun, and the supposed Census taker was thwarted.
I have made my whole family aware of this situation.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION!! You may have saved many lives with a simple post!!
I must express my frustration with the Rep system once again. I tried to give you some rep Mrs. Nell, but it won't allow me to :(
The thanks of myself and my family will have to suffice.
Thank you!!
I took care of it for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by your_comforting_company
And then there is this,
snip,
Tampa, Florida-- A 65-year old Tampa man is facing an aggravated battery charge, accused of attacking a US Census worker with a pickaxe.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/watercooler...MwOewYhab5w%3D
A lady in one of my computer classes is working for the census. She said they've implemented a new policy of " no refusals". So, if they come knocking and you refuse what do they do? Shoot you? Twist your arm? :)
There has been some debate over whether some of the questions they ask are Constitutional or not. Some people are refusing to answer ALL of the questions. Yes, the Constitution allows for everyone to be "Counted". But some of the questions are "Questionable" (Pun not intended) according to some.
The lady that came for our Census was met down at the Barn. I know she was more scared than we were. I asked her if anyone had challenged her on the "Constitutionality" of some of the questions. She started getting a little huffy with me. If she hadn't been a neighbor(Sorta') I would have told her to take a hike. I don't have to take that kind of behavior from anyone. Especially since I just asked a simple question. We cooperated fully with her questions, but the same could NOT be said for her. I think in 2020 I will give them a real hard time. After all the Geneva Convention only requires Name, Rank, and Serial #. Anything else I will tell them None of your business. You have counted me now leave. Oh No Orange Vest , but she did have the ID. I'm not happy with the treatment I received. I won't be nice next time. Hope it is better for everyone else!!
You'll be in the home next time and someone will be changing your diapers. And don't give them a hard time either. I'll need mine changed too.
The census people used a dirty trick, on me today. The one that showed up at my house today had a badge, and she was friendly, nice looking, had a pretty smile,..........and a smokin' hot body! I was tellin' her stuff, that she hadn't even asked for, trying to keep her there longer.:innocent:
Thanks Nell for bringing this up, you can never be too careful.
Had a Census taker(?), show up at the door of "The Place" our cabin.
I had to shush the dogs, and keep pushing them back inside as I walked out on the pourch to talk to her.
It took while to make her understand that we are "seasonal", that we didn't live there full time........"How may people live here"?.....A lot of the time....none, so what difference does it make?
Seemed odd......?
Might wanna see if a neighbor would swing by every so often and check on the place. Almost sounds like they were scoping out the place for a later date..
Can't help but be suspicious these days.
I agree,, These census takers are just extra help,, Criminals would pay for some info like that .Quote:
Originally Posted by your_comforting_company
Ken probably sent a stripper over trying to yank your chain.:sneaky2:Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit
Thanks for the reminder, I do have the neioghbor lady walk through pretty often, on her "Walks", but still I though of that when she showed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by your_comforting_company
Had the I.D., just a little cutie, young.........And I had thought that she had to have some guts to stop at all the fairly remote cabins and "homesteads" around, by herself.
If you just fill in the five questions on the mailer no one shows up at your door. Just sayin'.
If you fill out the first two questions they won't stop by either. The house next to mine is a rental property where the tenant just moved out. The Census worker showed up to collect information. I explained that it was a rental property and that the tenant had just moved out. He said "Well I gotta ask these questions". I said the house is empty. He said he'd come back. Before he left I asked "what about the house next door?" (mine). He said "They're good" (I only answered questions 1 & 2).
Thanks, Nell! Good post.
I found this link that I posted for my Facebook friends. It basically says what the workers can/cannot ask people. Of course, it does not mention that people are not required to answer all questions, but it's good info for people who may have someone show up at their door.
http://hamptonroads.com/2010/04/cens...-neighborhoods
Just make up some weird crazy language when you open the door,,
English would work in some areas.:innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin Case
Yo No Hablo Ingles
Here is a good example of a problem with allowing Census Takers in (a limited but real problem)
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local...#axzz0oKHq6Vp4
Mother recognizes Census worker as sex offender
By Darran Simon
Inquirer Staff Writer
Amy Schmalbach doesn't answer her door when she's home alone with her toddler son. But she opened it for a U.S. Census Bureau worker on May 4.
"I figured this is a government worker, I'm safe," said Schmalbach, 33, who had misplaced her survey and got a visit from a worker.
Schmalbach spoke briefly to the man, who said his name was Jamie, on the porch of her Pennsauken home. He looked familiar, wore a badge, and carried a dark bag with the census logo. He asked for names and birthdates, and whether Schmalbach and her husband rented or owned.
Toward the end of the interview, she recognized him: She had seen his face on the state's sex-offender Internet registry. She remembered his many aliases - including some outrageous ones - such as Phanton Flam, Toot Flynn, and Jamie Shepard.
Schmalbach checked the sex-offender registry site after he left, found the man, and told her neighbors and Pennsauken police. The next day, officers arrested Frank J. Kuni, a registered sex offender in Pennsauken, who had used the alias Jamie Shepard to get a job as a census worker, Pennsauken police said.
Kuni, 47, was being held Monday in the Camden County Jail on charges of false representation and impersonating a public official, authorities said.
"If I had not recognized who this person was, none of my neighbors would have, and I believe he would have continued to go door to door," Schmalbach said.
Police credited a quick-thinking resident concerned about Kuni with helping the investigation.
A census official said someone named Jamie Shepard working in the Camden area passed a name check but failed a fingerprint check. He had been hired in late April, completed four days of training April 30, and was terminated May 5. Kuni had visited more than one Pennsauken home, police said.
The census official confirmed Shepard failed the background check but could not say why.
A sex-crime arrest or conviction would preclude someone from working as a census worker, said Fernando E. Armstrong, director for the Philadelphia region.
Kuni had served about four years in prison for endangering the welfare of a child in November 1996, burglary, and other crimes. He assaulted one victim and had inappropriate contact with two other victims he knew, according to a state website.
There are 3,168 registered sex offenders listed on the state's Internet registry. Camden County has 324, Burlington has 130, and Gloucester has 70.
Armstrong said workers are fingerprinted at the start of the four-day training. The checks usually flag arrests or convictions in training or shortly afterward.
The census hired some 600,000 workers in the last week of April for the home visits, which started on May 1, Armstrong said.
"When you are looking at 600,000 people going through this check, you can understand that it doesn't always work the way it should," he said.
Here is the how the hiring process works:
Applicants must pass a written test and a check of their Social Security number and date of birth, among other things.
Then, new hires take an oath and get fingerprinted on the first day of training. Fingerprints are sent within a day to an Indiana census center.
If the background check finds something, regional offices get electronic messages that someone should be removed, but not the details.
The order trickles down to a field supervisor.
But Schmalbach wants the census to clear workers before they receive any materials and credentials, which happens on the last day of training.
"I know that they're not going to catch every bad guy even by doing the fingerprinting," she said this week. "But I think a great amount of people, who have bad intentions or want to do some harm, would be precluded from doing so if these background checks are done before they give out the materials."
So, if a census taker mysteriously comes up m issing while out and about do they get counted or subtracted?
Now that right there is funny I don't care who you are!
Don't laugh, it happened about 50 miles down the road from me.
The body was found hung from a tree in the Daniel Boone National Forest.
They "mutilated" him and carved the word FED in his chest.
It is suspected that he knocked on the door of a meth lab.
That census take committed suicide in an effort to collect insurance money. According to the news anyway.
http://www.kentucky.com/2009/11/25/1...ade-death.html
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