Moccasins

where do u primitive guys buy your moccasins if u do buy them

Just a hunch, but I'd imagine that the "primitive" guys make their own or trade for hand made moccasins.

If you're interested in making them, we have a thread on that.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ccasin+pattern

i was gonna buy a pair but i didnt know where to find some good quality ones

on my to-do list this summer

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I have made a couple of pair, but DW and I mostly wear moc's made by Carl Dyer.

http://www.carldyers.com/

As one of the "primitive" guys, I make my own from bark-tanned deer leather for the soles and braintan buckskin for the uppers. There's a thread around here somewhere about "buckskin wardrobe" that has pics of the wraps I made.

i am kinda worried about making a pair for the first time i was gonna buy a pair and then use them as sort of a reference point

A second for Carl Dyer.

I plan on making a pair when I find time using the buckskin ycc sent me, and my veg tan hide. There are lots of cut and paste designs on the net for them.

Let your own foot be the pattern, and your imagination guide your needle. For a first time, I would refrain from being too elaborate. Just make basic footwear. They don't have to be elegant to be functional.
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for about a decade now ive been using tabi. and not just cause they make me look like a ninja. tabi are more form fitting then mocs, generaly are made of higher quality material (mine are calfskin leather, not the rawhide used in most moccasins) and last longer. they are easier to water proof ( i use a salve of bear grease in which fireweed flowers have been boiled and i add alum as a mordant just before application) and clean as well. i get mine from http://www.leathertabi.net they typicaly last me 2 years, depending on how cacti rich the area i'm operating in is.

A little bird whispered to me that I may be getting a handmade pair for Christmas. Made by an old Mescalero Apache warrior (USMC sniper in VN). In addition to being excited about just receiving such a gift, I am humbled and honored. Oh, I'm eagerly awaiting Christmas this year for receiving in addition to giving, it's been a lot of years.

Look up PackRatLeather...she's in Utah...I have an excellent ppppair...Knee high, laces on the inside, elk skin, soft ,,,custom made, including shipping for $100, can't beat that.

God Bless

Lee

Hey man, i saw you're post an' i was in the same perdicament you're in now, this is a pair i would suggest, i have a pair an' i LOVE them, very comfortable. almost like you're not wearing anything

http://sodhoppers.com/html/styles.html

Does anyone have any experience with the minnetonka brand mocs?

I have had two pairs of Navaho Moccasins. They last forever, almost, with the rawhide sole. Kaibab Moccasins, Tuscon, Arizonia. I visited their shop the last time I purchased a pair for my wife and I. They are authentic made by the Navaho. Google them.

Sorry for not participating lately,(got a message from the forum), I have been up in Georgia on the forest fires. Georgia and Florida have a serious problem.

YCC, I know you are into primitive but those moccs are soo badddd!

As official mocc maker for an extended family of reenactors, that are still having grouth spurts, I make a couple dozen pair each year. The best insturctions on the internet are here.

http://www.nativetech.org/seminole/moccasins/index.php

If you follow the instructions you will have a very usable pair of moccs in a couple of hours. You can add soles or reinforcement where you wish. Often the best way to add protection to the sole is a simple insole.

I would make a trial run using canvas first, get the pattern and sewing technique down and then switch to leather. I generally use elkhide for the uppers and boar hide for the soles. I have tender feet so I use 2-3 layers of the pigskin.

This site is supported by the University of FL and the materials are historically documented for the time period.

Even though these are listed as Creek Seminole they are a universal pattern and can be modified to suit your needs.

Well since you don't like them I guess he won't be loanin' em to you. You can just go barefoot.

I think they are pretty slick looking. I like them.