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Deet, if you want to meet with RiM fine but that's VW's call.
I need to, tomm. get to my truck. I have olive drab green paint, prob. enough for the top of the bus. Don't have it in me today. I have a few shovels, pick, I brought the ax.
I took the battery out of the truck, turned the gas off, and wired the overhead lights to auto. turn on if someone connects a battery. They won't be able to turn them off unless they disc. the battery.
We need to get some chicken wire. Fish and turtle traps.
Guard Duty times revised.
2100 to 2400 Vol-West & Nell
2400 to 0200 FVR & Foggy
0200 to 0500 Wareagle & Marscroft
0500 to 0800 Owl-Girl
0800 to 1100 Lumpy
1100 to 1300 Wareagle
1300 to 1600 FVR
1600 to 1900 Trax
1900 to 2100 Sarge
Sorry so late to reply in the real world I work midnights and sleep all day. Don't take this as arrogance on my part but with all my sniper training I highly doubt you spotted me, however my presence was well known to you when I dropped my peace offering at first light and I made sure that you saw me entering the clearing, don't want the wrong signal to be sent you know. Also my rifle is a FNFAL 308 with custom stock and bipod, it is equipped with a modified 6-24x44mm targeting scope, 200 hundred rounds of ammo. I bring more to the group than hunting and long range hardline diplomacy though. I also know how to trap, skin and tan hides, and am an excellent forager. I also have skills in shelter, and cold weather survival. My camp is on the other side of the ridge if you wish I could be back by 0900 tomorrow with my gear loaded up in my allison. The personal belongings are just some clothes and my three knives as well as a tri hone. I carry a folding shovel and game dressing kit. My first aid kit and compass as well as map of area (hand drawn) and a katydyne water purifier is in my rucksack. I have a tent large enough for two so the woodcutter doesn't have to sleep in the fox hole cursing the cook with the bus anymore;) I also have a compact dynamo powered ham radio which should come in handy. I would like to meet the leader of your clan and discuss whether or not I might join.
please excuse my absence wolf pack, i have found a nice spot to set up a couple hundred yards out, nice observation post although i could use a good spotter any volunteers we will be out of camp more than in just so any other sneaky bast**ds cannot get a true count on us
FVR I can collect acornsQuote:
Originally Posted by FVR
I'm in, i know an excellent secondary position;)Quote:
Originally Posted by wareagle69
RiM, do you have any idea how to draw and post a map of the area from, say, the gas station to the other side of the lake, including the woods where our group is at in between, logging road, etc.? Also can you show why our group is blocking the only way out? :confused: So far we just seem to be coming up with fragmented mental images.
Vol West, can you do the same detailing the camp, and perhaps an idea where everybody is located? I'm going back through the posts and take attendance & inventory along with skills and will post the results later.:rolleyes:
VW, WE, 0730 I'll be dialed in. You know where.
Sarge, dinner was good, you cook good bird pilgrim. Next week, Peking Duck?
How bout some snapper soup?
Tomm. lets finish the latrines, paint and cover Sarge's bus, and stretch some hides.
Sarge's bus just gives me the creeps, something to do with Alexander Supertramp.
We also need to get you a wood stove in that thing. Any suggestions? Maybe a stone one on the outside and we can open up the side a little. Also need to get it up on blocks, why waste those tires.
Deet, thanks for the invite to the tent, but I will be retrieving my one pole tomm. from the truck.
Wake me for my watch.
I don't have any responsibility yet.I'll be happy to help at the observation post.I can dig the latrine,or even bury sarge's bus if need be.
If you bury the bus, leave acess into it! While you guys were thinking "Bug-out Bag and fire-arms", I was thinking "re-building a community". After all, this seems to be TEOTWAWKI, right? What, you think we're gonna hide out in itty-bitty pup-tents for the next 20 years? Oh crap, the venison stew is burning and owl girl is out looking for acorns. (mumble-mumble "got enough NUTS in this camp to tan every animal in North America!" mumble-mumble):rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by lumpy
FVR will the acorns still work if there green?
I'll go with owl_girl to collect the acorns,she doesnt need to be out alone.Also,I can help sarge clean any small game you guys bring in. Did I hear wild turkey last night or was I dreaming??Quote:
Originally Posted by owl_girl
Has anyone noticed an area that might do well as a garden spot for next spring??I have some seed for that purpose,also have some thick clear plastic sheeting that I can use to start tomato seed ,a makeshift greenhouse until its warm enough to transplant.
saw some wild asparagus along the treeline that will be good when spring returns also.
Thanks for the gun trax,feel safer knowing it is within easy reach if I need it.i also have a sewing kit and can work on the furs for blankets or clothing.
Thanks nell. We still need to find out if the acorns will work if there green. If its still August I don’t think they’ll be fully ripe yetQuote:
Originally Posted by nell67
Hey,I don't have anything against the bus.I would prefer sleeping in the bus over a tent or foxhole,especially long term.Our latest intel seems to point to a very long term ****uation.Who's in charge here? VW is the one who mentioned burying it.Is he in charge?Do we have any kind of command structure?
I'm not a carpenter,but I've had interest in cordwood masonry for some time.I believe I could build us a decent dwelling with nothing more than firewood and mud and some extra help.Some scavenged windows with sceens would be a nice addition.
I would ever show up!Quote:
Originally Posted by wareagle69
What? (A B C D E etc... more letters... post not big enough to be deemed important)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
If I ever DID build a pungi pit that IS something I would say!Quote:
Originally Posted by volwest
No pits for me, unless we have some sort of cave that we can winter in. But thats dangerous if there is only one way out.
btw I would probably be in pretty bad shape if I managed to make it alone to where you guys would meet unless it was within 300 miles or so of where I'm at. Be ready with the hospital bus and have a partition ready for the weary wanderer. But maybe VW picked me up on his way who knows.
Welcome in SM, you weren't weighing in so I did it for you. You mentioned earlier that you wanted something on group survival so here it is! Jump right in! NOTE: Did you bring a knife?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by spiritman
Owl Girl,
Green is fine. We will store them and peel them when we get the chance. Once we peel them, I will take stock of the brains and see if we have enough. Most feel that a critters brains is just enough for that hide, I disagree as I like to treat them two maybe three times.
The acorns that we do not use, we can then boil twice, drain and then pound. We will have a starchy paste that can be used to make biscuts.
If ya'll need another pee shooter, let me know. You can have the 357, I prefer the 308 and a knife.
Bury a bus? Buses are pretty big. My truck has shovels but is not equiped with a dozer. LOL.
Lumpy, I've cut plenty of wood, help yourself to the wood that is still has the bark on it.
Yeah been away from internet access so thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
Of course i brought a knife, 4 actually.
Also some more of my own equipment:
Large capacity pack
Small capacity day pack with 2L water reservoir
Hatchet
Sleeping bag and Gortex Bivoac no tent though
Small emergency kit
A three gallon soft plastic water jug (easy to fill)
1 pot around 4 qts
A .22 cal rifle open sight 500 rnds. It's all i could get a hold of.
300 ft paracord
Out of food though... but I have been eating here and there so I'm not doing bad.
I definitely have the fishing gear covered as well. and we can use those larger tin cans of yours for some tickling in the creek.
Me and Marcraft will go out and set some traps in the morning if he hasn't set enough up already, something he could definitely help me out with.
ok deet saddle up since you also have sniper trianing it makes sense unless volwest wants to send out two, two man teams, also we need to have a counsil is this where we have decided to stay put or are we just riding out the winter?
Check with FVR, Trax, WE, and even VW before going out so that you can co-ordinate with them. An accidental kill would be bad! :eek: BTW, I'm truly impressed with your gear list. What make is your .2 rifle?Quote:
Originally Posted by spiritman
Of course I will coordinate with the guys, I already had a chat with VW anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
I have no idea what make it is, I'll get back to you on that if i get the chance. It's not a usual item on my list but this is an extreme situation so I figured it would be good to keep handy.
Ok back with 2 gal. bucket of acorns (climbed a few trees) and some thistle roots for Sarge to cook up, or they can be eaten raw. Sarge you can put them in the stew if you like.
Do you need more acorns FVR? I wasn’t sure how much to get.
Nell thanks for getting acorns with me.:D
Owl Girl,
2 gal is fine. Set them to the side.
I will make up two fleshing beams tomm. and we can get to work.
Sarge, save me a few deer thigh bones, need to make flesh scrapers.
Please do not salt the hides, waste of salt.
Guard Duty times revised. Again.
2100 to 2400 Vol-West & Nell
2400 to 0200 FVR & Foggy
0200 to 0500 Wareagle & Marscroft
0500 to 0800 Owl-Girl
0800 to 1100 Lumpy
1100 to 1300 Deet
1300 to 1600 Spiritman
1600 to 1900 Trax
1900 to 2100 Sarge
Notify if any changes.
Everyone stands once in a 24 hour period.
Sounds good, I'm cool with no watch duty if you don't need me to.Quote:
Originally Posted by FVR
i guess while i am in camp i will need to debrief the newcomers or has someone already taken care of that? VW or FVR.
hey fvr notice your standing back in the shadows not to close to the fire wise move any how i noticed the cat tracks also the ones i found seemed to be a couple of days old personally i don't think we will have a problem with him probably went deep bush when the a/o started getting crowded but the bears are another thing. it was a pretty dry summer not much for berries and such. hopefully our food doesn't attract but there are enough ppl here just might deter them, how bout another shot before we both head out, little bit chilly tonight, clear skies might get a bit of frost.
I think we are going to have to have a sit down.
Hunters / trappers (growing subgroup), ya'll need a squad leader to keep track of hunters out, times out, and areas hunting. Nothing worse than having a kill missed by a buddy's intrusion.
Hunters not out can help with the latrine, the bus, the root cellar, and misc. camp duties.
We need to find an area with good trees to fell for a few structures. I suggest that we do not cut them down from around our camp as that will open us up.
WE or I can do a scout for the trees. Most already downed trees around camp have been taken care of. We have a total of 6 cords of dried, debarked hardwood. We also have about 4.5 cords of debarked hardwood, that need a month or two to be complete, and 2 cords of green barked hardwood.
We will also have another cord of almost seasoned, with bark on that will be available once I move into my tepee. My foxhole is more like a little bomb shelter, LOL. May just want to keep it for storage.
Sarge, tomm., let's get a cord down by your cooking area. I just hate seeing you hobble up and down this 60 yards carrying wood.
must be a type-o SM i'm sure he means you and not survivorman
Got your cup? When the Crown is gone, have some Turkey for ya.
Corrected.
I know, just playin. But i thought I saw a mention of SMII or something somewhere, but that may not have been this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by wareagle69
Lets head over to those abandoned trucks I need to collect some parts to make my still. That's right sports fans I know how to build and run a still (I am from West Virginia you know:cool: )
Bus+ Dirt = root cellar
I was figureing on bus and dirt equals bomb shelter. Front door, back door, but you won't find me in it.
Have this little thing about closed spaces underground, my foxhole is just fine but a tin can, no way.
Deet, you speak'n of RiM's trucks? I would not mess with them, don't need no fueding.
Hey, ask them if you see them that if they can locate some chicken wire I will make them and us a few turtle and fish traps.
It's both at the same time, a stocked bomb shelter. And if we did it thoroughly it would fit everybody.Quote:
Originally Posted by FVR
Everybody, but me.
I'm hitting the woods hoss.
If we get bombed? We aren't a big enough group YET
THANKS about the trucks. and you do not need chicken wire. got some empty cofee cans? let me show you.....
Sounds good. I think we can dig up some coffee cans, hell the way we are going through it over here. I think Sarge has a couple dozen in his tin cave.