Omid - was that school suspension for playing with fireworks?
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Omid - was that school suspension for playing with fireworks?
flint n steel always does me right beowulf how come you import flint ? there is alot to be had just walking down trails.Ihave a 5 gal. bucket full.it so easy to find
Was up in the Sant Fe wilderness this past week. Tried out the Walmart Magnesium Firestarter in semi-wet conditions.
Used only my multitool for striking & scraping. 1st - this seems like a great way to wreck a blade. 2nd - getting the spark to land on the pile of shavings was difficult. Solution: I used a pile of dried moss to build a little shelter around the magnesium shavings. It caught the spark, & lit quickly.
I won't say it works like a charm, but it does work.
Dennis K - two tricks you may want to try. Put a little piece of hacksaw blade on the little key ring that came with the magnesium block, or use the back of your knife instead of the blade - the squared back should work fine for scraping the block. Another tip is - while holding your stricker and flint next to your pile of shavings and tinder, move the flint toward you rather than the stricker toward the pile. This way you won't hit the pile and scatter it around.
Thanks, crash - excellent idea about the hacksaw blade. Those things sure do have a lot of uses.
why can't you carry amag bar in your pocket they aren't that big .I like the real deal better but emg. mag bars work great.use your pocket knife not you fixed blade you always want you fixed blade in good shape.
what also woks is if you get cotton balls with vasaline. how to do it
1. get the cotton ball (balls)
2. get a little bit of vasaline put it on ball and just start pulling appart the cotton ball until it is mixed fully
I've posted this before, but what works great is a good flint (not all flints are equal), a striker, and lint from the dryer, especially the lint from the towel load. The Vaseline (on cotton balls or lint) gives you a longer burn time.
not all flint is equal but if you find one good piece there will most of the time be more around . one piece of flint will last a long long time
little amish girls would get a fire going with a long piece of corduroy cloth, that they held at each end after looping it over a branch, then pulling each end alternately, quickly, making massive friction and heat.
I hope that was cotton corduroy. Wool corduroy might take a while but it would make sweet music while you wait. Zoom Zoom Zoom Zoom........
heh heh. i forgot to mention the best part, that you don't need charred cloth to go with it, because, well, it BECOMES charred cloth lol.
Why make it so hard? In a survival situation, I'll pass on the whole flint,sticks, and glass for cheap Butane Lighter anyday. Or even a 15 dollar butane torch.
Because we're purist, Ziggie. We make fire the old fashioned way. We earn it. Then when we fail we use a lighter.
since I learned to use flint and steel Ihave not used A LIGHTER TO START A FIRE it more fun with flint n steel and more rewarding .
How about a fire from a chocolate bar and a soda can?
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I didn't believe / understand it until I saw it but, once you see the trick you understand.
You might try the Search function. We've discussed it. It's even mentioned in this thread.
With flint i think the best tinder is cotton balls, lint, or birch bark. Flint is a lot easier than friction fires.
And char cloth.
Flint and steel is good to know and practice often, but I often use the bow drill method it seems to work better for me.. this pic a good example of of thehttp://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...6&pictureid=70 firebow
Let me get this straight. You think working your fingers bloody to get a spark is easier than 1) strike 2) blow 3) fire?
Uh, no. Flints, flints, flints....come on, repeat after me....flints.....
The wood that i use sparks rapidly.and also the drill is comfortable to hold and use,shaped for the hand. i use cotton or jute for tinder. it works ok for me.
Well, as one of our most noble members would say, "If it works for you then it works for me." (thank you, Crash)
Its not like my most favorite way to build fires, though i often use this method. weather conditions wreak havoc the "FIRE" bow. there may be more reliable ways. i normaly always carry a magnesium flint stick and a ZIPPO.
Ah yes, back-ups. You can never have too many.
Thats right, I dont like not being able to build a fire. multiple aproaches to getting one lit
is a good notion observe
Yea and when I'm dreaming about building a fire I put some tender in the palm of one hand. Slap my hands together sharply then rub them together vigorously for a couple seconds. then cup my hand and gently blow on the tender and a flame springs to life. However when I'm out in the bush or the back yard and need to start a fire I use a ferro rod and a cotton ball soaked in paraffin or some birch bark or both...,
Didnt stan laurel used to do that too?
I prefer flint n steel or blastmatch ,strike force and cotton however I like a challenge so heres a bad vid of me using a bow n drill and igniting just ceder shavings
http://s230.photobucket.com/albums/e...t=Video009.flv
Looked like you had it going for a bit....
Yea normally I make a nest of jute and ceder shavings however on this occasion my oldest son was here and we made a bet, I said I could get a flame with just the ceder shavings and he bet me a 20 I couldn't lol thx son
I carry a small aluminum tube (about the size of a drinking straw) in my fire kit. It really helps to direct your breath when blowing on a fire. It makes for a hotter fire than just using your lips. You could use 1/4 inch copper tubing or anything along those lines. The aluminum is rugged enough that it doesn't get damaged in the pack.
good tip thx rick
I carry surgical tubing that will act as a flexible straw and like the above aluminum tube will also redirect air to the fire. Plus all kinds of other uses, repair a sling shot, possible tourniquet, lure body etc...
Oh, I forgot to mention...and this is important.....it's blow, don't suck.
I'm a big fan of having back-ups and multiple options...so when the need for fire arises...
For Spark and Ignition:
BlastMatch
Magnesium bar with hacksaw blade
FireSteel
Matches (in waterproof container)
Magnifying glass
For Tinder:
Esbit fuel blocks
Spark-lite wet tinder
dryer lint
cotton balls w/ vaseline (in waterproof container)
This all fits nicely in the MOLLE pouch which is part of my main emergency pack (not what I would go hiking with...i use a much smaller pack for that)
Please tell me this was not learned by trial and error :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Its Rick your talking about here Dennis :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dennis K.
Now he tells me.
http://dataisdelicio.us/img/fire_eater.jpg
Ok lets make that plan c on our fire starting attempts list.