Congress Approved Health Care Bill

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03-23-2010, 05:42 PM
Justin Case

So ,, everybody say Bon Voage to Rush,, he said he would move to Costa Rica if the bill passed ,, lol,
03-23-2010, 05:51 PM
crashdive123

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Originally Posted by Justin Case

So ,, everybody say Bon Voage to Rush,, he said he would move to Costa Rica if the bill passed ,, lol,

Ya might want to listen to him every now and then. He said no such thing. He said that he would travel to Costa Rica for his medical care. He went on to say that he would never move out of the United States. Media Matters has a little trouble with facts - as do the outlets that use their talking points.
03-23-2010, 05:54 PM
Trabitha

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Originally Posted by Justin Case

So ,, everybody say Bon Voage to Rush,, he said he would move to Costa Rica if the bill passed ,, lol,

No...he said he would go to costa rica for care if the healthcare bill passed here because they would have better care.

With all due respect...I really hate it when people who don't even LISTEN to him pass crap around that's not true. People even went so far as to post an edited YOUTUBE video out there. Funny thing? I listened to the show! LOL!
03-23-2010, 05:55 PM
Trabitha

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

Ya might want to listen to him every now and then. He said no such thing. He said that he would travel to Costa Rica for his medical care. He went on to say that he would never move out of the United States. Media Matters has a little trouble with facts - as do the outlets that use their talking points.

Oh. LOL!! Crash got it before me. LOL!
03-23-2010, 06:42 PM
Sourdough

The way I see it.........this is not going to effect me much. My income is so low I rarely pay taxes. I don't get sick, and when I do I go to a clinic that charges me $16.50 for Very Good service. The waiting room people are mostly drug addicts, but the doctors are good. Maybe if more people were healthy and poor, they would have fewer worries.
I think I'll start a new jingle, "Don't Worry Man, just be Poor, Healthy, and Happy".
03-23-2010, 06:59 PM
2dumb2kwit

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Originally Posted by Sourdough

The way I see it.........this is not going to effect me much. My income is so low I rarely pay taxes. I don't get sick, and when I do I go to a clinic that charges me $16.50 for Very Good service. The waiting room people are mostly drug addicts, but the doctors are good. Maybe if more people were healthy and poor, they would have fewer worries.
I think I'll start a new jingle, "Don't Worry Man, just be Poor, Healthy, and Happy".

People get upset when I say this, but the fastest way to bring down the cost of health care, would be to outlaw health insurance.:innocent:
03-23-2010, 07:02 PM
Rick

Sourdough - I just hope that clinic is still there for you and they will continue to treat you. Actually, I hope you don't get sick, first. Then the rest of the stuff.
03-23-2010, 07:08 PM
BENESSE

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Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit

People get upset when I say this, but the fastest way to bring down the cost of health care, would be to outlaw health insurance.:innocent:

Now here's some of your own reasoning thrown back at ya:
That's like saying the fastest way to cut down on car accidents is to outlaw car insurance.

Am I catching on?
03-23-2010, 07:11 PM
2dumb2kwit

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Originally Posted by BENESSE

Now here's some of your own reasoning thrown back at ya:
That's like saying the fastest way to cut down on car accidents is to outlaw car insurance.

Am I catching on?

That was pretty good.....but I didn't say it would cut down on people getting sick, just that the cost would come down.:tongue_smilie: LOL
03-23-2010, 07:17 PM
BENESSE

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Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit

That was pretty good.....but I didn't say it would cut down on people getting sick, just that the cost would come down.:tongue_smilie: LOL

Exactly!!!!! (thank you baby jesus, point made!)
You always miss the finer points when it's the other way around.
03-23-2010, 07:18 PM
2dumb2kwit

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Originally Posted by BENESSE

Now here's some of your own reasoning thrown back at ya:
That's like saying the fastest way to cut down on car accidents is to outlaw car insurance.

Am I catching on?

I just think that if people paid for health care out of pocket, people would quickly weed out the problems that waste money, and get things under control.
03-23-2010, 07:26 PM
2dumb2kwit

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Originally Posted by BENESSE

Exactly!!!!! (thank you baby jesus, point made!)
You always miss the finer points when it's the other way around.

Actually, the point that was made, is that if you payed closer attention to what I say, you might actually understand.:innocent:

(HeHeHe....love ya, B!)
03-23-2010, 07:28 PM
Rick

You are not going to drive down the cost of pharmaceuticals. You are not going to drive down the cost of malpractice insurance. You are not going to drive down the cost of diagnostic equipment. How would I impact that if I paid for it myself? Folks are self pay today and they haven't touched it.
03-23-2010, 07:31 PM
Rick

He actually said that that Congress should go XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. But I can't print that. I'm surprised he got away with it on the air. What? He did. He did, too say it. Well then he was thinking it.
03-23-2010, 07:33 PM
LostOutrider

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Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit

That's one heck of a job, you did there, Lost. Not only did your second paragraph hit most of the talking points used to try and sell that bill to the public, but it also did exactly what your first paragraph complained about!:clap:

I think you missed my point with that example, brother. I'm seeing this as a happy medium between the two extremes. One part of the broken system is that we don't require folks to be insured but we do require hospitals to care for them. You're paying for that part already. Since I'm personally not cool with turning folks away who aren't insured, then the next step is making sure they are insured.

Besides, this didn't have to be sold to the public. Public hasn't voted on this. That is where the whole representative democracy part comes in. If the vocal minority turns the tide (and history shows it has to turn at some point), then they'll roll it over again. This is going to seriously hurt one party. Time will tell which one.
03-23-2010, 07:39 PM
BENESSE

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Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit

I just think that if people paid for health care out of pocket, people would quickly weed out the problems that waste money, and get things under control.

That's just not based on reality.
What about people who have cancer or kids that with diabetes, or any number of things that take longer to develop but when caught early are quite manageable and less expensive to treat?

Majority of the people delay seeking medical attention until the condition gets acute. THAT'S our problem--lack of interest in preventive medicine & early intervention.
How many people do you know who go for regular check-ups and do most of what they're supposed to do to preserve their health? I don't know that many and I am supposedly in the "aware" crowd.
Let's take a pole on this and at least anecdotally find out?
03-23-2010, 07:43 PM
BENESSE

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Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit

Actually, the point that was made, is that if you payed closer attention to what I say, you might actually understand.:innocent:

(HeHeHe....love ya, B!)

I understand...but it still don't make sense.
It's like idiot without the savant part.
03-23-2010, 07:45 PM
2dumb2kwit

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Originally Posted by Rick

You are not going to drive down the cost of pharmaceuticals. You are not going to drive down the cost of malpractice insurance. You are not going to drive down the cost of diagnostic equipment. How would I impact that if I paid for it myself? Folks are self pay today and they haven't touched it.

My point was that if everyone paid out of pocket, then they would ask why malpractice insurance cost so much. They would not be happy about why, and find a solution to lower the cost of it. Etc., etc....get my point?

Maybe the doctor that would want you to have a $5,000 test, to confirm what he was 99% sure of if ins. was paying for it, might think twice about it, if his patient/friend had to pay for it himself.
03-23-2010, 07:47 PM
BENESSE

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Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit

My point was that if everyone paid out of pocket, then they would ask why malpractice insurance cost so much. They would not be happy about why, and find a solution to lower the cost of it. Etc., etc....get my point?

Maybe the doctor that would want you to have a $5,000 test, to confirm what he was 99% sure of if ins. was paying for it, might think twice about it, if his patient/friend had to pay for it himself.

Cumbaya my lord.
Another problem solved right here.
03-23-2010, 07:48 PM
Rick

I told my Representative, I'm all for health care. But not on top of a mountain of debt. First, let's resolve the deficit issue so we can afford to do the right thing. Next, address real reform. Tackle the core problems that are driving health care costs. Third, stop Medicare and Medicaid abuse. That's $30 billion a year. Once that's complete then we can afford to insure everyone across the board.

I wonder what the cost of abuse with be with this new plan?

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