No, "Nimrod" is a "Tenderfoot", "NUMPTY" is "UK" for "Idiot!":eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridge Wolf
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No, "Nimrod" is a "Tenderfoot", "NUMPTY" is "UK" for "Idiot!":eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridge Wolf
I just went to their web site. I truly hope no one of inexperience takes that site seriously. The information is incomplete and often unclear. I'm sure they may have some experience in recreational hunting and camping, but I think it ends there.
That's why they're in the NUMPTY thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahyo
Oh... ok. glad I'm not either one.... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
Was this information on their website? I have a hard time trying to navigate that site... I don't think it was posted here..:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by nell67
Oh... duhhhh.. reader scrolling across banner... didn't notice that.
So, they survived for 13 out a planned 30 days.. does that mean they aren't surviving anymore.. kind of like the blairwitch project? Login huh?? Premium membership??? BULL!!!
No that was from news erports on them.
I think I may have mentioned about 8 pages or so back on this thread that I was done with it, yet here I am, and here's why. Here it is. I can't believe those guys have wound up with a 13 pages thread dedicated to them and their misadventures. I suppose its a good thing for new members to sort of get a sense of what we're about or for newbies to the outdoors to get a sense of how not to behave, but...Yikes, 13 pages and me running off at the mouth about it.
Think of them as a problem child at work. You know the kind. 10% of the employees require 90% of the attention.
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Originally Posted by trax
In a sense, something like this is occasionally useful when you have the appropriate responses pointing out the "error of one's ways" as it has in this thread.
that is so true.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Ive actually learned quite a bit from these two like how NOT to plan a trip
Shhhhhh. They may send you a bill for their expertise.:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Excalibur
I would just refer them to trax's story about the tax man lol
Well, it certainly turns out that they are controversial... and in that, they are good businessmen... and business is apparently what they wanted to generate... So, good business tip.... Controversy sells!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by trax
unless you need SAR or a bodybag
Hey guys. Im looking for a bit of advice.
My friend and I (Ages 16 and 17) will be going to live in the Northern Ontario Wilderness (around the timmons area) for about a week in Late june, just after school ends. It may be more depending on how well we do.
We both own air rifles and are frequent fishermen. We are planning on surviving mainly off of fish and most likely small game like squirrels. We want to plan everything out perfectly before we go.
Any advice at all would be helpful.
Thanks, Shifty.
Well Shifty, looks like you picked the right thread to ask your question. Before I, and others answer, how about going here http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14 to introduce yourself. Tell us a bit about your experience in the wilds, hobbies, ya know that sort of thing. Nothing too personal. This will give us a better idea on what advice to give you.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...9738#post39738
K i made a little somehting about myself. Not much, but it shows a bit where i am coming from.
A course in survival would not be an option for me at this point, for various reasons. So instead i am trying to gather as much information about survival in northern ontario as i can.
any help would be great!
thanks. Shifty
Shifty, based on the information you have provided, I would recommend against going out into the wilds to test yourself for a week or more. IMO the best way to test yourself and your skills is to go camping with all of your gear. If you want to start fire using only primitive methods fine. But at least you will have your gear with you if you need it. Build your own shelter - go for it. The tent is your back-up. Want to eat off the land - sure why not. A little rice and beans or some camp food will be there if you need it. There is absolutely no good reason to put yourself in a potential life and death situation on purpose. What you are suggesting is dangerous and I don't recommend it. Take a look at the blogs. Sarge, one of the moderators has posted some useful information there (as have others) but some of his stuff is targeted toward what you are trying to do.
Stay with the forums, ask questions, learn. Do not get upset if you don't always get the answer you want.....sometimes it's the answer that you need.
Shifty,
Read this entire forum to start with. There is tons of good advice here and at the top of the list, the best advice starts with Crash's initial advice to you.
What Crash told you is wise and true. I have a little bush time behind me and I still take back ups for my back up. Do not go off on a triip to test youself without everything you would need , leave it in your pack if you want to but DO NOT put yourself in harms way for some macho idea of testing yourself.
I'm reserving any answer until yo reveal if you're a "Numpty", Nimrod", or serious student. Your answers will tell.:cool:
Thx guys.
I'm smart, and won't put myself into any situation which I don't believe I can handle.
I am going to bring with me plenty of extra food, as a backup for the first day or so, and emergency. If it gets dangerous at all we will be leaving immidiatly. We are planning to bring a tent, (so it basically is camping), because it will be our first time.
I am planning many backups just to add more safety (lighters, food, gps. etc)just incase we cant start fire using primative skills etc.
What do you guys think?
Good deal. Here's an idea that might help you. Start out with some short trips before you graduate. Ya know - weekend stuff. That way you guys can practice your skills, figure out where you need the most work, and then go on your longer trip with the confidence that you will succeed, be safe, and have fun.
Sounds like you are thinking wisely Shifty. Like the saying goes, "Better to have it and not need it than to not have it and need it."
If you do regular camping trips and practice certain things each time, you'll get better at things as well as find the things that you are not good at and either work on those weaknesses or figure an alternate way of doing it.
There is another thread posted somewhere regarding "Weaknesses". Quite a few of us weren't so embarrassed to mention what we were not so good at.
i also find that in general it's no fun go end up in a situation requiring the execution of tasks, skills, etc. that you know you can do but find that you're not in a rhythm for pulling them together all at once, or in non-ideal circumstances.
I think you're a bright young man. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed reading this last post, it shows me that you're not a "Numpty", but a novice. If it were me I'd take Crashdive's advice and plan a series of short outings 1st, gradually working my way up to the bigger, then biggest one. I'd keep a log/record of each activity at each site & trip detailing what we did, how it went, and what we coulda/shoulda done to make things smoother. Here's a good example. Say my 1st campout was going to involve "fire-making". Stashed away in my backpack is my waterproof match container & Butane lighter, flint & Steel, 4000 Steel Wool, etc. My log reads something like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shifty
"Day one: Reached campsite around 3pm in the afternoon. Had camp set up by 3:45 and we set about to find our fire-making materials: Tinder; Kindling: & Fuel. Steve wanted to try his fire drill but gave up after 30 minutes, we'll try that again tommorrow but for now have made a fire the modern way...matches, and did it by using only one match, Boy Scout style. Supper consists of____________________, and I'm the designated cook so it's my job to feed all of us hungry outdoorsmen."
"Day Two: Woke up to an awful mess, we had a regular "Gully-washer" last night and the fire got washed out as well. The guys & me are trying to figure out how to start another one out of wet wood. NOTE: When back home study up on how to start a fire under WET conditions!" You get the idea. Every trip is another classroom experience undertaken as safely as possible but with a direct purpose. I'd write down a planned organized list of each proposed outing, where it's going to be, who's going, what each person's duties will be, what the back-up precautions are. and finally, the rating of how each trip went. Ok, good, great, bogus, etc.. Good luck, have fun, and keep us all posted. Oh...BTW, welcome to the "Wolf-Pack"!
Shifty, if you are going off the beaten path, make sure you and your friend have a first aid course and a first aid kit with each of you, as a bare minimun. Sounds like ti will be a great time, good luck.
Thx for all the tips!
I am definatly bringing a first-aid kit, and I have been interested in a course for a while now. Im going to take your advice and practice some skills up at a friends cottage when it starts getting a bit warmer out. I also just rented a book from the library on edible wild plants in Ontario, although i do not intend to eat a lot of plants on the trip (at least not on the first one, because you can never be too sure) Any more information i could get would be great!
P.S Would a .177 cal 495fps airgun be alright for hunting squirrels for food?
Thanks everyone for the advice! I am eager to hear more!
Shifty.
A pellet or BB gun can take small game. Don't know what the laws are in your area regarding their use and hunting. Worth checking into.
Shifty if your interested in First Aid i can hook up with some great Army first Aid manuals and take at home course to get threw basic first aid. However nothing beats hands on practice with first aid skills. Also you said u planning practicing your skill up at a friends cottage when it gets a lot warmer for some skills all u need is your back yard. When ever i get new hiking gear or before i go on extended trips i always spend some time in my backyard practicing. I am sure my neighbors wonder y i am out back using a fire plow to light my barbeque or y i am setting tents up in the pouring rain but it helps to sharpen skills before u really need them.
Great point I trained my nephews out in the fields at the farm before they ever got to go into the woods with me. My wife gets "classes" in the back yard almost every weekend. She likes little campfires and sitting and watchingthe fire sometimes, now instead of asking me to make one she goes out and starts gathering wood and starts it herself, she learned to set up the tents the same way. You don't have to be in the middle of nowhere to hone your skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGTD00m
I was taught in Sunday School many moons ago that Nimrod meant "master hunter" and that there was some ruler named Nimrod who was the grandson of Noah. I don't remember much from those classes, but since I was always sitting there dreaming of hunting and fishing that kinda stuck in the ol' memory bank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
Hey, Montana - Right on the money. I had to look it up and it's just as you say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod_(king))
I guess I'll have to change that to "novice" then, huh?:rolleyes:
Hey, that's between you and the lightening bolts.:D
Hi everyone firstly id like to say that this is a great forum and i ve learned alot from reading it.
I am shifty's friend who will be accompaning him on the trip. We have done alot of research and practice and i think we are starting to get on the right track as far as our survival skills go, (trapping, plant identification, first aid etc) We have taken Crashdive 123's advice and we are going on a short trip one weekend in may to test our skills.
Thanks for all the great advice
Deadfall
BTW i chose the name because i was practising making deadfalls in my backyard b4 i made my account:)
im back after 2 weeks living in the sandilands wilderness and i already hate suburbia again might just go back tomorrow if the weather clears up (it was -13 last night) i actually made a prety nice shelter considering id only been there 14 days, sorta like an enormous lean to with 3 1/2 walls. after 2 days straight of rain i had to abandon it >_<.
You can't just say that! We need details and pictures, if you got 'em.Quote:
Originally Posted by marcraft
-13C?
Your posts are sounding like Spam and you sound like a Troll! Please quit playing around & follow the rules which, BTW, include properly introducing yourself on the "intro" page or risk getting banned and your posts deleted!:mad:`Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieh