Like my cousin I carry a GB axe, the small forest ax, easy to carry and very sharp with a thiner blade profile.
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Like my cousin I carry a GB axe, the small forest ax, easy to carry and very sharp with a thiner blade profile.
Those of you with the Fiskars/Gerber hatchets, what if anything do you store in the hollow handle?
I've got the Fiskars mid sized axe. I don't store anything in the handle. It is stored in my truck, which holds everything else I need to store.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazito
I have Gerber in my truck and don't store anything in the handle.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
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I carry a Gerber axe, and a buckmaster 184.
I just love it when folks stop by to spam. I'd think no one loved me if we didn't have 300 of them a day.
the fiskars 14 hatchet is awesome
Those are pretty nice, under a pound, If i was in the market for another hatchet I would have it high on the list....close to the Eastwing (little heavier) over a pound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Survival123
http://www.campmor.com/estwing-leath...&ci_gpa=pla&ci
Currently using a Bullseye:
http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CF8Q8wIwAQ#
Oh come on. You're in the market for another anything. Hatchet, muzzle loader, canteen, whatever.
I've just finished reading all the posts in this thread. What a blast from the past!
Yeah, well, remember he who has the most gear when he dies.....WINS!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I bought a hawk from a blacksmith at a rendezvous near Ft Atkinson Iowa many years ago for I think $15.(should tell ya how long I've had it) Keep thinking I should replace it but then I use it again and decide it's still going good and no need to spend the money. To bad the handles don't last that long. :>)
Oldtrap
LOL, especially when you are throwing 'handle matches".......I always have 6 or 7 spares.......Quote:
Originally Posted by oldtrap59
I carry a small Wetterlings, fisker or a small cold steel hatchet depends on trip duration expected need etc.
I don't store anything in mine I do have the handle wrapped in 550 though
Some good choices here.
For me, I carry a pair of tools as my "kernel gear" - the tools that matches my skill sets that will get me out indefinitely;
A short machete or long knife, and a long (22" - 32") tomahawk with a lightweight head.
I don't have any problems with the long handles on the proper hawks (a proper hawk is one that has certain weight and balance characteristics - usually with a Center of Mass where the middle third meets the last third by the head, and about one ounce of weight per inch of length, so a 24 inch proper hawk will only weigh about 24 ounces), as some have mentioned here - you just can't treat a proper hawk like a hatchet or an axe of some sort if you want to really benefit from them besides saving carry weight, etc. - hawks require different techniques - otherwise it's kinda like thinking a cheetah will act like a greyhound because they are about the same size and shape.
That example probably doesn't illustrate my point too well, but it's all I got. LOL.
:yes:
I like a lot of saws for bushcrafting, but I don't consider them a long term survival item, because they are hard to maintain compared to a simple long blade or hawk. - I carry various saws in my walkabout gear as well as my BOB-type stuff, but I consider the saws snivel gear compared to the hawk and long blade, due to the saws' vulnerabilities.
Along with the hawk, long blade and saw, I tend to carry a small chisel and a multiplier and/or SAK as my grab-and-go preference.
vec
here's a photo of a little hatchet that I carry. I've had it for many years and have others but keep coming back to this one.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...lee/001-15.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...tlee/005-7.jpg
Axes are sexy. They get all the nostalgia and glory and I like them. However they are not as efficient as a saw. A saw "slits" a log in two. Think of how much more wood is removed to chop a log into two. I carry a folding pruning saw form Lowe's with about a 14" blade. It really eats the woods. For me I carry a Cold Steel Recon Tanto (7" knife) and my pruning saw. As an option I carry my Gerber/Friskars hatchet too and I love it. When I have the saw and an ax I look at the cutting job. If I figure I can make the cut in 3-4 chops- I grab my Ax. Otherwise I saw it. But often the Hatchet stays home, but the saw never does. It's just generally more calorically efficient.
With all the axes, hatches, hawks, saws I have......yesterday I did some pruning for a deer blind with the saw blade on my SAK....still my most used tool.
My favorite axe to carry is a roofers hatchet blade on one side and hammer on the other with a wooden handle. Got it at Home Depot for about 20 bucks. I also carry a folding saw, and a medium sized belt knife.
i keep a timberline alaskan bush pilot hatchet whal its light and small it puts in the work i need it to however i dont have a saw or big ax
i always have my timberline alaskan bush pilots hatchet in my pack its good for it intended use
I am all for the axe! I carry three cutting tools, a Mora Bushcraft Force, Buck multi tool and a beautiful Gransfore Burks small forest axe. I have never had a issue when carrying these three. The only way I would carry a saw is if I could carry my 30" Bahco bow saw, that thing cut fast but is way to big to carry. I did carry a small Bahco folding saw for a shot while years ago but did not like it. The small size of the wood a folding saw can cut takes is no time to cut through with the razor sharp Burks and in the winter time in eastern canada you need the axe for the large amount of fire wood in the winters. However, some love the folding saw and if they work for you thats great. It is all about personal perference right?
I do carry a folding saw in my pack, but bought me a Cold Steel Kukuri Machete which is a nice item to have. I modified the sheeth to accomodate my flint and survival bag so i made it a sort of all in one.
I have many axes and hatchets, but the ones that see the most use are my Estwings. I have the large blue campers axe that I carry in my Explorer along with my Timberline pilots hatchet. I have Estwings scattered in various sheds and places around the place here. Also have some Norlunds and other brands of that ilk. I do use them a lot when I am out and about in the woods. I also have an Opinel folding saw, which is like a wood razor! I found that it fits in those small leather sheaths you buy at the hardware store or lumber yard for a utility knife. I picked up a bunch of sheaths on clearance one time and just happened to have them in sight when I brought the Opinel home. I oiled the sheath up and put the saw in it and it fit like it grew there. I don't use this a whole lot though, it is usually in my backpack. I also have several small folding saws that came in pack with pruning shears. They are very sharp and come in handy a lot too. Made by the China knife and tool company of course!
One thing that I have found to be of extreme use and handiness is the short tool box hand saws from the hardware store. They are about 14-16" or so, and cut both on the pull and push stroke. Stanley and Irwin are two names that come to mind. I have a Craftsman one too. I use one of them a LOT during the summer when I am working in the woods here. Always wanted to make a nice leather sheath for it, but just haven't had the time. The saw is light. cuts like a demon, ans stays sharp a long time. Like any saw, and their one big weakness, they have to be kept pitch free and they are not the easiest to sharpen if they get dulled. The sharpening aspect is the one thing that puts an axe/hatchet above a saw. Not everyone can sharpen a saw. Not everyone can sharpen an axe either though, but there is more forgiveness in a dull axe than in a dull saw!
Either way, having a cutting thing is a must!
For a regular ax, I usually go with a plumb or one of the axes I found at a flea market and stuck a new handle on.
As for hatchets, I have an EstWing Carpenter at the moment and it doesn't give me any problems:
http://www.amazon.com/EstWing-Solid-...stwing+hatchet
I have a cold steel tomahawk for trekking in the bush, (If you need to make a fire it is a lot quicker with less energy than a knife). In the home survival two small hatchets, two machetes' and two pole axes with a bow saw, and a folding saw. I looked at the hand chain saw, but it seemed like a lot of effort for the result.
I carry a small Wetterlings axe. I do think a small folding saw is great, but for a multi-function tool, you can't beat a small to medium size axe. I usually have it stuck through a loop on the outside of my pack. The thing people think about these days is the weight. But if you pack everything else properly, you should be able to carry an axe without getting too heavy.
i took the head off of a swiss army hatchet 1 lb 11 oz and put it on a 36 " hickory axe handle. I use it for a walking stick as well as a axe. under 3 lb total wgt. plan on adding a rubber walking stick tip as soon as i can find parts :)
Great to hear the thoughts and experiences on this. I've been considering adding a folding saw to my kit for a while now.
My current blade set up is as follows... a small folding knife in my pocket, a robust 4 inch blade bushcraft/survival knife (currently an ESEE 4) on my hip, a mora in my pack as a back up blade, a multi tool in my pack, and a Grans Fors Bruks small forest axe strapped to the outside of my pack. This system of blades works pretty well for me and gives me enough redundancy to feel comfortable.
But it does seem like some common wood cutting chores may be done more efficiently with a saw. My only problem is I'm already pushing the weight threshold with my kit and I'm not sure what blade I would take out to replace with the saw...
Saws are actually pretty light weight. I've carried the same Gerber Sportsman's saw for several years now. It's a whopping 3.4 ounces and works really well.
Thanks for the feedback.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Do you also carry an axe? If you were me would you consider replacing my axe with a saw? Or just adding the saw to my kit. I realize I'll have to get out there and try it to know for sure but I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. What are some of the typical tasks that you find become much easier with a saw?
I actually carry a tomahawk. It's lighter weight than an axe. I tried an Estwing camp hatchet but it was just too heavy. I don't plan to fell any trees so my needs are smaller. I have a bit larger hatchet I use to car camp. Crash made it and I won it at one of the jamborees.
Rick,
Thanks for the feedback. I'm heading out for a BOB test trip next weekend. I think I'll throw a folding saw in and see how useful it comes in for me.
Never used a tomahawk, but some of them sure do look cool.
Ive carried mine for a few years now on hikes. Its pretty much indestructable.
Hunter63 saying Hey there, wayne, and Welcome.
I'm a Tomahawk guy. I don't use hatchets or hand axes. I use a hawk, and I've got plenty of them!
The SOG Tactical Tomahawk is the tomahawks of tomahawks. It has the power to cut through small trees and shrubs in no time. It holds a blade, and I've used it to break up rocks, bricks and other kinds of rubble. It's light weight, easy to handle and absorbs impact like no other tomahawk I have ever used. It is, in my opinion, the best of the best.
The SOG Fasthawk Tactical Tomahawk is a variant of the SOG Tactical Tomhawk, the Fasthawk is slightly smaller and lighter. I don't like it as much, because without the weight, it doesn't have the power of the original in my opinion. Other then that, it stands up to the same vigorous testing.
The Cold Steel Trench Hawk is a good hunting Tomahawk. If I'm down in the Louisiana swampland hunting wild boar, I usually got this sucker in tow. I can wield it with one hand like a hatchet, or if I need to do some serious chopping, wield it like an axe with two. I love this tomahawk so much, I have one in my pickup truck and one stashed away in my hunting/camping gear. It's also a good alternative to the more expensive SOG hawks, if your in an area where its easy to lose equipment.
The Cold Steel Frontier Hawk is a one handed tomahawk fit for small places and light to medium jobs and last awhile. I bought one for a hunting buddy of mine that's 4'11 and 98 pounds soaking wet, because it was light and easy to use. It keeps a blade rather nicely, and the handle can be easily fitted with a parachord grip. Good for small people and kids.
The Estwing Tomahawk looked like it had great potential, but fell flat for my needs. I needed something I could carry into the woods, or the swamps or the mountains. It is however good for those in need of good tomahawk for a construction site, the home or similar work. I sold mine off after I picked up my Cold Steel and SOG hawks.