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Sorry Rick, I know you were hoping for more.
Chic isn't derogatory ? sorry , didnt mean to offend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trabitha
I can tell you from my experience as a lineman that you cant keep media away from a scene when it is on public property. Unless LEO will shut the area down for you, they have the right (pesky first amendment) to talk to you. They will walk past our signs and cones right into the work zone and ask about how much longer, etc. BP might own the mess but not the beach.
Yes, 100% correct,,,, Thank you.
Wow! Did you see that? He was flat of his back and still threw a punch.
That's what we call spunk, Rick.
Indeed! Now let's see if Trabitha counters...
Are You Trying to cause problems ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I think Rick is trying to fill in for Ken, sense he's been so busy, lately.:innocent:LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Justin Case
Or, there's nothing good on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit
Or, his many BOBs are done and updated.
Or, Mrs. Rick is away and off his back regarding house chores.
Or......:)
Slow night.
Before people get carried away, wanting to destroy BP....they need to follow the money.
Who benifits from what action?:innocent:
I do if you send it to me. Is that what you meant?
Yeah....that's it. Why don't you go stand by the mailbox, and wait for the check.:innocent: LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Rick
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Originally Posted by Trabitha
Not taking his side Trabitha,but it looks like you did:winkiss:Quote:
Originally Posted by Trabitha
Don't know...:innocent:...let's bankrupt them and find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit
(If we don't then their lawyers will for sure.)
If you're talking about BP, you're looking in the wrong direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
...and why would you want to bankrupt them? Do you understand how many people you're talking about destroying, financially, that had nothing to do with the spill???
Did y'all know???
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Federal law has also hampered the assistance. The Jones Act, the maritime law that requires all goods be carried in U.S. waters by U.S.-flagged ships, has prevented Dutch ships with spill-fighting equipment from entering U.S. coastal areas.
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Three days after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon in the Gulf of Mexico, the Dutch government offered to help.
It was willing to provide ships outfitted with oil-skimming booms, and it proposed a plan for building sand barriers to protect sensitive marshlands.
The response from the Obama administration and BP, which are coordinating the cleanup: “The embassy got a nice letter from the administration that said, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,'” said Geert Visser, consul general for the Netherlands in Houston.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...y/7043272.html
That's how it always works, doesn't it? Innocent people get screwed no matter what.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit
The same argument was used to justify bailing out Wall St. and a bunch of people went apoplectic over it. Hey, everyone has the right to be hypocritical at will but it does dilute the argument.
Apples and oranges.Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
I didn't say give them a pass. Hold them responsible for the bill. If that breaks them, then so be it. Just plain wanting to break them is not going to help anyone. Think about it....if you break them, who gets stuck with the bill???
I wonder if BP had insurance for this ?
Actually, in western cowboy and hunting guide culture, "dude" is very derogatory. A dude, is a city slicker, who pays money to experience a water downed version of what a cowboy or guide does for a living. If a co-worker calls you "dude"...it could lead to blows!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trabitha
example- in reference to someone who may own a 5 acre ranchette, have a horse and always wears a giant 10-gallon cowboy hat..."that dude is all hat and no cattle"...its basically calling someone a poser, or greenhorn
And before we get too hung up on words - he said chic, not chick.
From Wiki:Quote:
Chic (pronounced /ˈʃiːk/ "sheek"), meaning 'stylish' or 'smart', is an element of fashion and the counterpart of posh.
Meanwhile the oil keeps flowing into the gulf. Is anybody focused on the problem?
Yeah Thats what i meant :innocent: and Trabitha probably meant to say "Dud" :innocent: :) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
No, not even those who are supposed to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Survivalist
Yeah,, BP will fix iT :innocent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPnFV...layer_embedded
this is sad but true.
BP just agreed to allocate 20 Billion for those who are affected by the spill. Does anyone remember that 20 Billion was their expected profit this year?
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Broadcast/o...ry?id=10927625
Don't get me started. :sneaky2: Oh wait, I think I already have. So...yes, I do remember that which means what, they just won't make any profit this year but other than that everything is copacetic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Regulation and oversight is needed but beyond damages no punitive measures are useful. "Evil Corporations" are invested in by stock holders like individuals and pension funds. The money will come out of ordinary peoples pensions and besides the price of doing business is just added to the price you pay at the pump. I consider myself an environmentalist and I think the size of these projects should be limited in size to limit size of catastrophy.
You bring up a point, that I have been wondering about. I'm sure that they are regulated to death, but I haven't heard much about Federal inspections, and checking to see that they were operating within compliance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Survivalist
Also, you don't hear much about where the drilling rigs and people who work on them, are going, now that no new drilling is being allowed, in U.S. waters. (And who stands to gain financially, from this.)
No punitive damages for the worst environmental disaster in US history?! What would it take to warrant that in your mind, AS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Survivalist
1st. No money will come out of pensions. It doesn't work that way. They cut their dividend in order to preserve their cash flow.
2nd. There is no such thing as "Evil Corporations". There are unethical executives that steer a corporation the wrong direction. But a corporation is neither evil nor good. Point the finger at the real cause of this tragedy. Carl-Henric Svanberg is the Chairman of BP. However, Tony Hayward is the CEO and is ultimately responsible for the mess.
As to the inspection, the U.S. Energy and Commerce Committee has asked the DOI for the actual inspection documents to determine if any culpability exists with regard to the inspections. BP's position has been that key safety checks were completed just hours before the disaster. However, an attorney representing some of the survivors says that isn't true. So who knows?
Re: the drilling ban. Some of the drilling companies have sued the DOI in an effort to resume drilling. I can't imagine this ban lasting very long. The petroleum lobby is pressing hard to have it lifted as are lawmakers. Imagine if you were the governor of Louisiana. You have Gulf Coast folks loosing revenue from fishing and recreation as well as all the associated companies for those two industries and now all the gas and oil employees are out of work. I'd bet the ban gets lifted pronto.
This just in: breaking news!!
B.P. has stopped the oil leak in the gulf.
They put a wedding band on it and it stopped putting out.
I just read the details in the 20B compensation fund. It will be paid out over 4 years. So...They're 20B profit will take a hit of $5B this year. The tax write off for expenses associated with the spill should more than offset that. Add to that the fact they cut this quarter's dividend to shareholders. They should be in the pink or black as it were...literally.
Not very far for 2D to follow the money.:sneaky2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Not to mention that the administration made a point of saying that this agreement is not a cap. I fully expect them to go back to BP often and push an increase. The only question will be...how far will BP get pushed before they say no-more?
Considering our government turned down help from 15 nations and never asked other oil companies to help out...I see them going after BP for everything they can get and then trying to force it in the court system. But that's just my opinion.
:sneaky2: Hey now...Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit
The knowledge that it would effectively change the way things are done which can be done without us paying more at the pump. Who is really at fault? I know they have the deep pockets and stood to profit but some guy some where did not do his job and I bet he does not have 20 billion dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
hahaha! this is KILLING me! brilliant!Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit
don't let them fool you. a wedding ring is the world's smallest handcuff!
Rick, where do you get your information and how do you have such a well-rounded point of view?
There are consequences for everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Survivalist
With whomever the buck stops (and it usually stops somewhere with someone) is the one responsible. That's how it works.
The Europeans are paying at least $6 a gallon and that's what we'll have to wrap or minds around. I don't have a car so I don't care. I've given up a lot to be in this position (compromised a great deal) so if someone else has to compromise too, well...welcome to my world.
There's no free lunch--big corporations, or just you and me. But then you know that already, AS.
It's not just driving cars. Food production depends on oil from pesticides to fertilizer to shipping and the plastic bags it is put in. The money systems are so connected we pay for it all. It may make you feel good but you will only be sueing yourself and handing more authority over to the government. We are being played. Countries around the world offered to help that have the equipment and expertise to fix this and were denied. This is another power grab and could have been stopped immediately. The powers that be don't care but they know we do and are manipulating the situation for political gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE