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08-20-2007, 01:59 PM
spiritman

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Originally Posted by Sarge47

You're using what's known as "compartmental thinking." You're just looking at the trip as a "great adventure". even if the trip is successful, so what? To be successful only means that they come back alive. Next what happens? Do they do it for 6 months? A year? What about people like you who might think this is cool and go out and have problems? Why do you think all the older, more experienced hands on this are against it?:confused: Did you see the movie titled "Shackleton?" In around 1917 Ernest Shackleton set off for the South Pole, He dropped off some people at a winter camp at one point and then continued on getting his ship stuck in the ice where it was later crushed as the ice closed in. Shackleton was hailed a hero for getting all of his people from the ship back safely, though some did have toes amputated. What the movie didn't mention was the 1st team he left at the 1st camp suffered tremendous loss of life. You need to see the whole picture.

So what are you looking at this trip as then Sarge?

I haven't bothered asking them what happens next, but I doubt that they will be going again for any longer that this trip, and I bet they will actually listen to our advice and take some more vital gear.

And despite the fact that I think this is cool, I'm not going anywhere with just a knife, I bring a little extra gear, look at the minimalist survival thread. I'm also not the only one to do it! I don't go for a month either.

They are against the way they are going about it, and it's not the actual fact that they are going for a month, but that they are only bringing knives. And look at RickSAR's post, I think you might have given him the wrong impression about how long they would be gone when you asked him for his input, because he said to "TRY IT OUT FOR A MONTH"
08-20-2007, 02:04 PM
spiritman

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Originally Posted by Sarge47

People make their own luck, Spiritman.:cool:

that's my point sarge, I'm glad you said it.
08-20-2007, 02:05 PM
spiritman

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Originally Posted by owl_girl

Luck isn’t a very reliable lady friend, she may treat you good one day and crush you the next, would you rely on a girl like that?

Look at what sarge said
08-20-2007, 02:08 PM
spiritman

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Originally Posted by volwest

What is not reliable in this process is not luck itself, but the way we pay attention to it, or to everything for that matter.

This was what I was looking for Volwest, thanks.

g2g but I'll be back to finish this thought tonight
08-20-2007, 02:46 PM
trax

Ten-hut

Sarge,

I for one think you were just one hard hearted, hard headed SOB who should have offered those poor fellas advice like: "well, you'll be fine as long as you keep your underwear clean" and "don't pick the posies because you know...flowers have feelings too" or maybe "gee fellas, I'm sure the warm feeling you get from being functioning retards will stop the onset of hypothermia"

Yeah, you're a bad one alright, dude..:D :D :D
08-20-2007, 04:50 PM
Sarge47

"Phew"

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Originally Posted by trax

Sarge,

I for one think you were just one hard hearted, hard headed SOB who should have offered those poor fellas advice like: "well, you'll be fine as long as you keep your underwear clean" and "don't pick the posies because you know...flowers have feelings too" or maybe "gee fellas, I'm sure the warm feeling you get from being functioning retards will stop the onset of hypothermia"

Yeah, you're a bad one alright, dude..:D :D :D

For a minute their I thought you were going to say something bad about me!:rolleyes:
08-20-2007, 05:43 PM
trax

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Originally Posted by Sarge47

For a minute their I thought you were going to say something bad about me!:rolleyes:

Not a chance
08-20-2007, 07:53 PM
spiritman

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Originally Posted by volwest

Now...what do you mean spiritman by "worse case scenarios" ?

Well I suppose first what defines them, and if this is one. Then what CAUSES them. And maybe how people act and either get out of them or perish. Maybe this should be a thread...
08-20-2007, 08:56 PM
FVR

What if:

They are successful? Then they put their video on youtube and maybe get a little fame.

They are not successful? Then their failure is felt by not only their families, but this site and all those who enjoy "preparing" so they don't have to be in survival mode. We will then be lumped into a group as nut cases.

Well, we are a bunch of nut cases anyway.
08-20-2007, 09:26 PM
Sarge47

Ha!

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Originally Posted by spiritman

that's my point sarge, I'm glad you said it.

Don't take it the wrong way.:confused:
08-20-2007, 10:02 PM
Sarge47

Out of Context!

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Originally Posted by spiritman

So what are you looking at this trip as then Sarge?

I haven't bothered asking them what happens next, but I doubt that they will be going again for any longer that this trip, and I bet they will actually listen to our advice and take some more vital gear.

And despite the fact that I think this is cool, I'm not going anywhere with just a knife, I bring a little extra gear, look at the minimalist survival thread. I'm also not the only one to do it! I don't go for a month either.

They are against the way they are going about it, and it's not the actual fact that they are going for a month, but that they are only bringing knives. And look at RickSAR's post, I think you might have given him the wrong impression about how long they would be gone when you asked him for his input, because he said to "TRY IT OUT FOR A MONTH"

Spiritman you took Rick SAR's post "out-of-context". He was warning them NOT to go out their for a month using their list, but if they did he'd bet they would change that list in a hurry. Bad form dawg!:mad:
08-20-2007, 11:49 PM
spiritman

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Originally Posted by Sarge47

Don't take it the wrong way.:confused:

How could I?:confused: :confused: :confused:
08-20-2007, 11:59 PM
Sarge47

Easy.

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Originally Posted by spiritman

How could I?:confused: :confused: :confused:

The saying goes: "Chance favors the prepared mind", ergo "chance", or "good luck" favors those who are prepared. That would also mean that "bad luck" favors those who are not.:cool:
08-21-2007, 12:02 AM
spiritman

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Originally Posted by Sarge47

The saying goes: "Chance favors the prepared mind", ergo "chance", or "good luck" favors those who are prepared. That would also mean that "bad luck" favors those who are not.:cool:

Which is really nice since these guys have been preparing since march for this. thats a LOT of PREP time.
08-21-2007, 12:15 AM
Sarge47

Really?

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Originally Posted by spiritman

Which is really nice since these guys have been preparing since march for this. thats a LOT of PREP time.

It takes that long to sharpen a knife?:rolleyes: They ought to hire you for their PR dude.
08-21-2007, 12:24 AM
spiritman

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Originally Posted by Sarge47

It takes that long to sharpen a knife?:rolleyes: They ought to hire you for their PR dude.

lol well they had to get good at it :D
08-21-2007, 03:23 AM
nell67

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Originally Posted by Sarge47

It takes that long to sharpen a knife?:rolleyes: They ought to hire you for their PR dude.

the knives they were supposed to take,they were going to make.In one of their forum questions,one of them stated they no longer have time to make their knives,so they ar probably going to have to purchase them.

This is from their forum:
"Well i finished the forge for building our knife. I have tryed a few times but it is not going to well. We may have to buy a knife. We are running out of time and have so much to learn before going. We may have to put off building our own knife untill we get back."
08-21-2007, 07:31 AM
Sarge47

Knives.

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Originally Posted by nell67

the knives they were supposed to take,they were going to make.In one of their forum questions,one of them stated they no longer have time to make their knives,so they ar probably going to have to purchase them.

This is from their forum:
"Well i finished the forge for building our knife. I have tryed a few times but it is not going to well. We may have to buy a knife. We are running out of time and have so much to learn before going. We may have to put off building our own knife untill we get back."

One of the guys posted that his knife was one made by Ontario. I would hope that whatever knife someone uses out in the field it's one they've used for quite some time and are familiar with. That statement about "running out of time" just confirms my suspicions that they're very ill-prepared. Why would someone want to wait until they get back until they build the knife they had planned on taking with them, unless they're planning on doing more of these?:cool:
08-21-2007, 09:48 PM
FVR

You don't need a forge to make a survival knife. Take an American made horse shoe file, grind a blade on it slowly trying not to make the knife edge cherry.

Wrap some leather around the handle and you have one hell of a knife.

Sharp, easy to sharpen, and the back can be used for a striker with rock. So it's a little brittle, just put it in the oven, turn the oven on, heat up till it's almost cherry then let cool, in the oven.

Made one and have been using it as a work knife for close to 4 years.

Throws pretty good to.
08-21-2007, 09:51 PM
wareagle69

good idea fvr think i'll tyr it in the fall. i love my files that's one item i keep handy at all times.

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