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Sort of looks like an arrowhead? It looks pretty danged good to me. Very nice job on the tools and the finished product.

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Originally Posted by wtrfwlr

I hope its cool with you guys if I bump up this thread and join in here. I just found this thread last night and read through it and thought I would share too.
I'm also brand spanking new to knapping. It has been one of those things that I have wanted to try and do since I was a kid and was just never around anyone who did that sort of thing. Well the other day I watched that video that was posted in an earlier post about beer bottle bottoms and decided to give it a go. I made up a couple of tools that I thought looked sorta like what they were using and got and old beer bottle and made something that sort of looks like an arrowhead.
It is pretty dang fun I must admit and frustrating at times too but I'm learning as I go. I have to say also that I have about as much fun making the tools as I do crackin glass! Here is a photo of my first ever attempt and the tools I made.
Thanks Bj. wtrfwlr
*** Heck, I forgot to size the pix to fit! I hope I can go do that and then attach them to this??? If not I'll post them in the next one, sorry.

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:clap::clap::clap: You certainly weren't nappin' when you made any of that! Great job!

Thank you Kind Sir. I'll keep fooling with it. I would prefer to have them appear full size if I can.

Thanks for the nod. I must admit I was kinda proud of it myself. Of course, like everyone I wanted it to be better but I'm sure the ones that follow will be.
I now have some TV glass to play with and some Johnstone too but I'm not liking it all that much yet, it's sorta crappy! I'm trying to get my glass down before I move on to rock.
Bj. wtrfwlr

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Originally Posted by Rick

Sort of looks like an arrowhead? It looks pretty danged good to me. Very nice job on the tools and the finished product.

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Thanks so much Rick, the tools are pretty fun to make and then see them work and work well is just cool. I had always read about Indians made stone points using an antler and it made absolutely no sense to me until I grabbed an antler and started beatin on a beer bottle with! I just looked and thought, "I'll be dipped, it works???"

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Originally Posted by Ted

:clap::clap::clap: You certainly weren't nappin' when you made any of that! Great job!

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Thanks for the applause Ted. If you had been here to see me you would have been rolling on ground in laughter crying out "Do it again, cut yourself and cuss again! That's funny!"

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Originally Posted by wtrfwlr

and some Johnstone too but I'm not liking it all that much yet, it's sorta crappy!
Bj. wtrfwlr

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Hehehehehehehe.

Ooooh. I get it. I do. I get it.

Just another stinkin pun, not to worry.

Pssst, Hey guys, I got a tip about this church, see, the whole thing in made of flint, looks like some good stuff too......

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Originally Posted by hunter63

Pssst, Hey guys, I got a tip about this church, see, the whole thing in made of flint, looks like some good stuff too......

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If you'll give me the address I'll head right on over there.

Just come down the page a bit:
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...Norfolk-Thread!

Actually there will be a knapper at the Rondy this week end, in town here.

Yeah Hunter I saw it this AM I was just jazzin you bout the address.
Cool about having a knapper over there. I wish we had more Rondy stuff around here. We have 1 in Oct. It's lots of fun to go to.

beautifull work people! you are awesome!

One of my latest Nice and thin.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...psd436279f.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps6d37800e.jpg

That looks really nice YCC!
Always wanted to try my hand at knapping, but never have gotten around to it...

Thanks! It takes a few specialized tools (just the right size and shape horn, a rough rock) but it's a lot of fun. If you break one, you just throw it down and start another. This must've been the fifth one I tried that day, haha!

I asked my mentor how he got to be so good at knapping. I expected him to say "practice", but he said


"You gotta fluff the pillow just right"

He's a joker ;)

Man there is some skill here.

This is the last one I did, about 5 days ago.

http://i58.tinypic.com/156cm13.jpg

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Originally Posted by Enigma

This is the last one I did, about 5 days ago.

http://i58.tinypic.com/156cm13.jpg

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Very nice.......Thanks for posting.

Excuse a real dumb question....Is that a, ....or do you have example of original aboriginal stone work?

That's a popular style that sells well, due to "Game of Thrones." I think people like dagger blades. The timber is a rainforest tree root, exposed from hundreds of years of flooding, then marked by a twisting vine over many years, which eventually rotted away, but left a black spiral all the way down and around the handle.

Below are some of the Aboriginal repro's I do. Knives such as these were collected circa 1900AD in the Tennant Creek area. I have used Mookaite, the originals had a different stone, but I can't tell just by looking at the museum images.
http://i62.tinypic.com/6hq8o4.jpg

I use genuine Xanthorea based resin for these.

Here's one I did for a mate a while back. It was a large Keokuk flake from bopping, so I didn't have to do much, except shape it with pressure flaking.

http://i61.tinypic.com/xbfq6u.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/2rnc1du.jpg

nice work i,m glad we have another knapper to the forum.
i too make knives like that. also use animal jaws for handles.
i have some mookite but it is cut into knife blanks.
i use many types of stone,agite,jasper,novaculite,keokuk,all types obsidian,kay creek,goldstone
and so on. see some of mine in making stuff section.

Thanks Haymaker. I'll check out your stuff.
I really like Madagascan Green Chalcedony as a material. The colour and opaquness is very pretty.

Mookaite is really interesting, it depends on shades of colour to how it behaves. Pure yellow is 'flaky' the purples and deep burgandys are good and predictable, the white is very fragile, the olives are gorgeous but rare and the light pink is even ,more brittle than all the variants put together.

I had to break up 72kg's of cores to see how each colour variant behaved. :-)

I also like Indian Bloodstone and Indian Red Jasper.
I've used Obsidian (black, Mahogany, Smokey,) Dacite, Keokuk, English Flint, Texas Flint, Goldstone, Mookaite Jasper (a Radiolarite), Madagascan Chalcedony, Bloodstone, Indian Red Jasper, Quartz, Basalt, Belmont Chert, Mudstone, Gympyite, TV glass

Sorry mate, I called you haymaker!! Re: your private message, here's some stuff I have done.

http://i57.tinypic.com/14w6bo0.jpg
Original "Hoko" knife. Hoko was the name of the village, wiped out by a mud slide 2700 years ago.

http://i62.tinypic.com/29zdcol.jpg
My 'Hoko' reproduction.

http://i58.tinypic.com/2hcfebt.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/29q1jsm.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/xbmryo.jpg

Mookaite Spalls
http://i58.tinypic.com/aw9tfq.jpg

Cohikia points, white Mookaite, and rare salmon pink Mookaite.
http://i60.tinypic.com/xnd7dg.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/51aq1l.jpg
Cream Mookaite, and goat shin bone handle.

http://i57.tinypic.com/jutgnq.jpg
Dacite blade and some nice, but very hard Mulga wood, for the handle.

This is a Mookaite skinner with a chital deer stag antler handle. I kept the chalk exterior deposits, on one side of the blade, as it goes well with the ivory colour of the handle, and also accentuates the shape of the blade. I like this one.

http://i58.tinypic.com/10pt7x5.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/np595g.jpg

wow you really do nice work and that pile of mookite spalls i,m jelous there beautiful

I posted this in the "Making Stuff" section, but will post here as well.
This is a photo of some of hayshaker's worked he asked me to share with everyone.

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Looks good Mikey!

ETA: Those pieces you presented are simply stunning Enigma.

Thanks mate, and nice work yourself Hayshaker, it's great fun getting creative with everything nature provides. I like working with bone, timber and stone. This is a bone harpoon point I made from 3 separate pieces, all held together by the sinew cordage. The more force put on the cordage, by the prey, the tighter the whole thing gets. Thanks MrFixIt

http://i58.tinypic.com/2lsw6mq.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/jh5wuh.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/1z5u4ad.jpg

Another bone spearfishing point
http://i61.tinypic.com/2lsb5ll.jpg


here's a nice Lilac and white Mookaite blade with a piece of that same root from the Rain Forest, as another knife I posted earlier. The black twist go's all the way around in a spiral.
http://i60.tinypic.com/2d282z9.jpg

some older stuff I've done
http://i59.tinypic.com/25hh73q.jpg


http://i61.tinypic.com/15rm6b5.jpg

L to R, Indian Green Jasper 'Bloodstone', Madagascan Green Chalcedony, Australian Green Gympyite
http://i58.tinypic.com/24zf42q.jpg

This is a nice piece of Green Chalcedony, I had to work hard on one side to thin it, but it came good in the end.
http://i61.tinypic.com/eb2dyb.jpg


here's a nice photo of some more broadheads. Lit from morning light in the Blue Mountains.

http://i62.tinypic.com/de8cqw.jpg
1st Row
Mookaite (Aus), Mookaite, Colha Flint (Belize), Mahogany Obsidian (USA),

2nd row,
Green Chalcedony (Madagscar), Mookaite, Red Jasper (India), Mookaite

http://i62.tinypic.com/12576gw.jpg

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Thanks mate, and nice work yourself Hayshaker, it's great fun getting creative with everything nature provides. I like working with bone, timber and stone. This is a bone harpoon point I made from 3 separate pieces, all held together by the sinew cordage. The more force put on the cordage, by the prey, the tighter the whole thing gets. Thanks MrFixIt

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Outstanding work.....Thanks for posting.

my gosh you got some beautiful stone to work with.
do you have a professional photographer do your photos? wow
that last point is pretty.

Thanks Guys, it's nice to have fellow enthusiasts admire ones work. Makes it all worth while. :-)

I do my own photo's hayshaker, I'm a pro and have my own post production studio, I also do our survival companies videos. But haven't done any in about 6 months, been way too busy. I'm halfway through a desert course promo in Western Australia, now THAT was a bloody awesome trip, 9 days hundreds of kilometres from the nearest town, and in an aboriginal area, exploring initiation caves, womens rocks, quartz and greenstone fields, finding debitage from knapped cores, an ochre grinding stone (for painting oneself during corroboree's) salt lakes, basalt mountains, water seeps and springs (lifeblood of the desert) spotting all manner of native wildlife, dingos, eagles, parrots, monitors, snakes, even feral goats (didnt have my bow, easy 10 metre shots!!!!).

Mate, that trip was LIVING :-)

http://i59.tinypic.com/51scqv.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/mv0mko.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/331m04n.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/29wr7lk.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/6hns3l.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/yko5y.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/dhbf9f.jpg

Here's a couple of Cohikia Points I made today, from Mookaite. The one on the left has a bit more lilac colour in the tip, than what the photo shows.

http://i57.tinypic.com/28tjc02.jpg

This is a Mookaite piece I rescued from the sh1t pile of debitage I have. It's only been bopped to get to this stage, so I have to finish it by pressure flaking. I think it will come good. It's a difficult piece, as seen in all the fissures and weak points between the reds and yellows. Mookaite sure can 'test' a knapper!!!

http://i58.tinypic.com/oft5iw.jpg

that theres a beauty for sure

Beautiful work and colors in the stone.

Been a while since Iv'e been here. eh?
Anyways I went hunting around new years in Bosque county, Tx and found lots of ...um, "potatoes?" Hard rounded stones that chipped like flint, some with a cavity in the middle. They are dull grey with "ferrous" bands, and a rocky exterior. I also found some sea shell fossils and a dull crystalline rock. here is one I found cracked openAttachment 10674
the fossilAttachment 10675
and the crystals Attachment 10676
I was hoping I could get some information on the first one, is it useful? oh and I see some amazing work here, its great stuff!

What you have there are geode's......some really have a cavern inside.
Never seen anyone work it into tools.....Though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geode

I almost posted the same answer but I've never seen a hollow one with no crystals. Not that they don't exist I've just never seen any. Here's some geodes I picked up last September. Scroll down to the 4th pic. My wife picked out one that weighed about 15 pounds. I was the only one with a pack. It's still there as far as I know. I was not cartin' that boulder a couple of miles back to the car.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ighlight=geode

Here is another one I broke up someAttachment 10679Attachment 10680
I didn't find any geodes online that matched the "potatoes" I found, but the caverns do seem to support that.

Look up concretion. That might be what you have. They can make some crazy shapes.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...#q=concretion+

https://www.google.com/search?q=conc...YQ_AUoAQ&dpr=1