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i have been waiting for this
I've been watching a few of Les' back episodes & am reminded why I like it so much. Les demonstrates how to use whatever's around him, be it wildlife for food, Junk people left behind, etc.. A year ago last spring, using what Les had taught, I visited a wooded area nearby and just did a nature walk noting things that would help me survive. Here's what I can remember:
An old car hub cap for a "fire pan".
An old tire that would make a good smoke signal if set on fire.
Trees that were down that, coupled with a tarp would make a good shelter.
A small spring leading to a nearby river that would provide water and had both frogs (for eating) and minnows (for bait to be used in fishing the nearby river.)
It really was a lot of fun.
Les Stroud is what essentially got me into learning survival skills and really appreciating the outdoors, a gift from God that many people dont take the time to really stop and appreciate...i mean i've always loved being in the outdoors growing up in the south (fishing, hunting, camping, etc.) but after watching his shows I was literally outside building survival shelters in the acres we owned of previously unused woods...lol...I even brought the show to school one time and our Biology teacher showed it in class...talk about relief (not a big fan of Bio Class)...but anyway les stroud is a true outdoorsman and i am glad he is still going strong. Although i do hope bear brings another season of entertainment and outdoor skills...i cant help it, i like the show..:D
ray mears is one of the UKs top bushcraft experts and he keeps it real no bull---- hope you get his show in the U.S.A soon.
"numpty" new to me. I like it.
I was excited to see the notice while i watched the boreal forest episode last night that there would be new survivorman episodes on Fridays at 9!
Im new here but after reading these strings about Man vs.Wild I new that this was the right place for me. That show is completely bogus and the things that Bear does will only get someone hurt or sick if they were to try it. The thing that really got me was that on one episode he wouldnt drink the water from a N. American rocky mountain stream without boiling it because of the risk of girdia, and on the next episode i saw him drink urine directly from a fresh elephant turd in the African Savana.
Les Stroud is a true survivalist and his show is legit. Bear Grills is an idiot and his show is a work of fiction.
Not to mention when he was in Kimberly Australia he urinated into his own canteen and drank it, assuring viewers that it was okay to drink your own urine!Quote:
Originally Posted by Texan
so now it,s not which show is more realistic it,s who would win in a fight.My money is on bear who served with British special forces.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHorDIE
Yeah I must have missed that episode cause after the first couple of times i watched it i realized that Bear was full of it and i havent went out of the way to try and catch anymore of his shows.
:eek: Why not give them dueling pistols and stand back-to-back, count off ten paces, turn & fire? :rolleyes: here's the point guys, it's not a contest, just two guys trying to make a living teaching survival. One's British, one's Canadian, but they're both well paid.;)
it,s only television and its all rubbish.
Here's the problems I have with both survival shows involving Les & Bear. Our two survivors become some kind of "super-heros" to us. Les' show is called "Survivorman", similar to "Superman".:rolleyes: It implies that he can survive anything that's thrown at him. Same with Bear G.. (Should be called "Bear vs. Ratings.):p Guys, it's just not so! Survival isn't the latest "game-show" or "Extreme sport"; it's life OR death!!!! Niether one of these guys could have survived the hurricanes or Tsunnis that hit a while back if they were in the wrong place. I watch the shows because I want to see certain survival skills and tools actually being used out in the field. I don't particuarly care to see two guys in a lot better shape than I am surviving a situation that they set up in advance. That's just not how it works.:eek:
In J. Wayne Fear's book: "The Complete Book Of Outdoor Survival, which, by the way, you can buy from Amazon for about 6 bucks, he tells how not every survival situation is about being lost, but in some cases, can rise up from being stranded. Sometimes it's about making wrong decisions, sometimes being in a desolate place and injured really bad. During his "plane crash scenario" Les tried handicapping himself by limiting himself to using only one arm. He had to give it up!:o Let's have some real survival shows out there, like the one I recommended awhile back!
Okay, little lost here as my response was to Rasputin.
damn sarge gotta disagree with you on this one.
i don't care much for bear, he is entertaining but i think he shows just about everything not to do in a scenario.
now lets get to les
i like the guy, he is not saying he could have survived a tsunami or done a show on urban survival yet ie huricane( although maybe i should e mail that one to him) i think he is showing what the average joe could to in these situations as we all know survival is mostly mental, maybe someone will have seen his show and think that they are capable of doing the same, the only superman stuff that les does is carry all that camera equipment around.
speaking of carrying everything around what does bear do he was sas, did a partial traing with the ffl climbed everest(how much a sherpa pulled him up? who knows) and crossed the artic by himself, now thats impressive, but it doesn,t make me think that i could do any of that unlike les
great thread sarge always lok forward to reading your thoughts but that is what makes life so great is everyones respectful differences
what about the rest of the wolfpack? what are your thoughts?
hey sarge did you find out about ray mears yet? he is probably the best show to watch. what ray teaches is bushcraft(oddly enough thats the name of the show) he does have a show called extreme survival but i like buscraft better.
i do agree with you and gringo abouta more realistic show heck maybe even a reality show if you can't make fire or tools, your out
Actually, at this point in time Les has both age and physical stamina on me.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by wareagle69
However, it's the way the show is promoted that bothers me. How many here could do the things these guys do just as well? Almost all of you, I'll bet. Yet you don't get a cool logo and your own program, if you catch my drift. All that being said, I'll be right down in front of my TV when Les' new series starts. I guess there's some more stuff going on about Bear when he jumped into the ice hole to demonstrate how to get out, and even Dr. Ron Hood has weighed in on his phony stuff. Man I hope he gets a 3rd season too, though.
Haven't found anything yet, bro, other than occaisional referances to him. Ironically enough, "Bushcraft" is also the title of a Mors Kochanski book on Wilderness Survival.Quote:
Originally Posted by wareagle69
thats the point sarge, les is showing us that it is anything that anyone of us are capable of doing. as for getting my own show gotta know the right people.
I do like Les, but hey, there is just something about a guy who drinks elephant crap water, wraps a pee laden t shirt around his face, drinks pee, eats live snakes, and drinks nasty water.
And that's Entertainment.
Honestly, Bear does not impress me. I have many friends who are much more impressive, they just don't have thier own tv shows.
I hear that! Les definately keeps it more real. I realized that just watching the recent reruns of his 1st season this weekend. It's the way the shows are hyped that's a bit problematic for me. It's why we have the "Which do you:rolleyes: like better" thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by FVR
You can catch either on Discovery on Friday nights.Quote:
Originally Posted by tater03
To be honest, either of them will get you dead if you depend on them for a teaching tool. They both have the skills, but both do things that'll get you hurt if you don't know what you're doing. I like both shows, but not for learning the skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by mamab
I have to admit, I'm liking Survivorman more and more. Thanks to my Media Center I've been recording all the shows that come on and I think I'm pretty much caught up. Can't wait for the new season. I'll still watch both though.
You keep coming back to that Sarge, and that's exactly what it is. If sponsors think people are going to watch a guy eating scorpions or falling off mountains, that's the guy they're going to get and the hype is going to make the casual observer (they've got 30 seconds to hook you as a viewer, right?) believe the guy is superman or whatever. If they think the viewer wants to see Joe Average out there struggling against the environment, bingo! line the guy up. Find someone like NorthFace of MEC to outfit him and away he goes. I'm not going to let my survival depend on something I saw on a TV show, for one reason I can't afford about 90% of the gear those guys use, anymore than I'm going to start believing the "news" on Fox, CNN and a lot of other news broadcasts. I seldom see TV anymore any way...can't be bothered. Turns out they just want to sell me the right brand of toothpaste!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
I think that forums such as these, where a person can offer their point of view in a respectful and intelligent manner and receive responses the same way (and I applaud disagreement, as long as both parties aren't attacking one another) may be the last bastion for true information sharing we have. It's one of the few uses I have for the InterWeb or the worldwidenet or whatever
Bear Grylls has mentioned that what he does on his show is what HE himself would do (and does) to survive in the given scenario. Other shows like Survivorman portray DIFFERENT scenarios with different resources available. So to say that one person is wrong or the information is "bogus" for not being the same as what a "better expert" says is nonsense.
People will survive as they are taught to survive. Many strategies and methods of survival work. Some better than others. I believe the shows are intended to make people think more creatively and to give a sense of caution to life-saving decisions. It isn't necessarily meant to be repeated exactly as done.
And you CAN drink urine. It is mostly water and because of your internal temperature it comes out sterile. If you don't have a water source, you reuse what you have. Not to mention that if you let yourself get dehydrated just to put off the inevitable because you *think* you will find clean water, you will end up peeing very little of a higher concentration of waste. I've been dehydrated, I know.
So for all of you people bashing Bear Grylls or Les Stroud or whoever else has a show, you aught to think about it less in terms of precise information and more in terms of possibilities for survival. Both of these survivalists have gotten ill on their shows but it doesn't mean that it was stupid of them to eat what they ate or have drunk what they drank.
Being picky and critical about every little thing can and most likely will get you into a worse situation than being reasonable and using logic.
So for all of you people bashing Bear Grylls or Les Stroud or whoever else has a show
We aint bashing Les Stroud....because he's not a lying douche.
Don't hold back, tell us what you really think.:rolleyes: By the way, welcome to the wolf pack! Are we dissin' Bear? You bet dawg, which is our unalienable right as members of the TV audiance.:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xplosive22
I like both shows I dont see why people cant like both man vs. wild and survivorman.sure bear looks staged some times. but it is still I cool show. and all the poepl who like less hate bear and the other way around.
I don't love nor hate either of those guys. I'll be watching any shows that they put on. But I'd still like to see Dr. Ron Hood or even this Ray Mears guy along with them.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by survivorman.
Thanks for the welcome. :)
I like both shows although I find Man vs Wild to explain things better. It has an educational feel to it and Bear is very articulated and easy to listen to and great fun to watch.
Survivorman is comedic from my point of view. I especially like the Boreal Forest episode where he boils a plant root in his hat and makes sour faces as he eats it. The throwing up was funny too. :)
They both present somewhat unrealistic situations though. It is a little easier to keep your cool knowing that people are aware of your situation and WILL come rescue you should you need help.
Really though, the information is useful and I have a higher awareness of the usefulness of my surroundings when I go out.
No debate there mate. Both shows do fill a void in the "world of outdoor survival", that's for sure!;)
bear takes to many chances,survivorman is more real
I agree with that. I suppose when you're loves contain climbing and parachuting you tend to incorporate it into your lifestyle. You can clearly see that Bear Grylls has a more adventurous time with his filming. I can appreciate that though. If you're comfortable that you'll survive the night, why not have a little fun? :p
In all seriousness though, the enthusiasm of the host really makes a difference in how much you take in from the show and the entertainment value.
http://www.daughtersoftiresias.org/b...d_Inaccuracies
Ahahahahahahhahahahha!
A list off al the stupid things that Bear does.
Eating eggshells? Why the **** would you do that. Stupid.
This was really good reading, thanks for sharing dude!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SOE digital
Yeah, what Sarge said, that's good stuff, thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
That is how we learn from what Bear does, by analyzing what he does wrong, and learning from it. In this way, Bear really can help us learn about wilderness survival.
Of course, Darwin Award candidates may literally follow his every move and die as a result, but we can't really do anything about that, except maybe sharing advice with others both online and in person. Then again, Darwin Award types generally neither seek nor heed advice.
I have only seen Man vs Wild one time and almost threw my Bud Light at the television and some of the crap he was doing. I believe he was in the Copper Canyon region of Mexico and just doing some stupid s$%t in my opinion.He was climbing down a sheer cliff and then jumping over a gulch to get down when it was obvious that an easier and SAFER route was visible from the top of the ridge he was on. Then he was jumping off of waterfalls into a river with no way of knowing what lay beneath the water. If you are in a survival situation these are things you should never take a chance on,unless someone's chasing you with an AK 47! I like Survivorman much better as it is more realistic and Les rarely takes stupid chances like whats his face does. Just my opinion.