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07-09-2008, 08:43 PM
TrappinGal

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Originally Posted by nell67

Nope,I am saying that the white man wrote history the way they wanted it to be remembered,you don't think for a minute that the publishers of the time (white folk) would actually have published a book written by indians about the transgressions against them and let it go without rewriting it to suit the image that they wanted of the indians,do you?? What you read in history class was written from a one sided perspective,to be more acurate,it should include actual facts from the indians side of the story as well.

indians arent the only group of people that the white man has failed to represent in history.

But yet, whites get mad when the African American race has black history month to celebrate their historical contributins to our great country. ive often thought that was because their version of history hit a little too close to home for some to stomach. ?
07-09-2008, 08:45 PM
Rick

Or Irish, Or Chinese, Or Italians, Or.......
07-09-2008, 08:47 PM
crashdive123

I'll bet that those that fear other races and cultures the most would be shocked if they traced their lineage back far enough. They may find a "colorful" history.
07-09-2008, 08:51 PM
TrappinGal

indeed they might.
07-09-2008, 08:55 PM
Sam Reeves

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Originally Posted by TrappinGal

indians arent the only group of people that the white man has failed to represent in history.

But yet, whites get mad when the African American race has black history month to celebrate their historical contributins to our great country. ive often thought that was because their version of history hit a little too close to home for some to stomach. ?

The problem is that White folks aren't representing themselves lately.

BTW, when is White history month?
07-09-2008, 08:57 PM
crashdive123

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Originally Posted by Sam Reeves

BTW, when is White history month?

I imagine every month in your world.
07-09-2008, 08:57 PM
TrappinGal

the other 11 months of the year.
07-09-2008, 08:57 PM
Sam Reeves

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

I'll bet that those that fear other races and cultures the most would be shocked if they traced their lineage back far enough. They may find a "colorful" history.

Hey nobody is perfect. Assuming I'm 1-2% something else doesn't obligate me to embrace another race or culture.
07-09-2008, 08:58 PM
Sam Reeves

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Originally Posted by TrappinGal

the other 11 months of the year.

Says who? I never hear about it on any McDonald's wrappers.
07-09-2008, 09:00 PM
Sam Reeves

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

I imagine every month in your world.

So how about you crash? When is White history month for you?
07-09-2008, 09:02 PM
crashdive123

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Originally Posted by Sam Reeves

So how about you crash? When is White history month for you?

Quite honestly Sam Reeves, it's something I don't worry or think about. Why does it seem to bother you so much?
07-09-2008, 09:04 PM
TrappinGal

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Originally Posted by Sam Reeves

Says who? I never hear about it on any McDonald's wrappers.

defensiveness is a sign that the person being quoted has "hit the nail on the head" so to speak.

if its only one month and all the history books support the white view, why are you scared to let them have 30 days?
07-09-2008, 09:09 PM
Sam Reeves

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Originally Posted by TrappinGal

defensiveness is a sign that the person originally be adressed has "hit the nail on the head" so to speak.

LOL. You are preaching to choir here.

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if its only one month and all the history books support the white view, why are you scared to let them have 30 days?

I'm not. Carver was credited for inventing peanut butter. Peanuts aren't even a native plant to the South Easter part of North America. The Aztecs had peanut butter paste before he did. Carver took the credit that belonged to the Native Americans as part of Black History month. How do you FEEL about that?
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ntions_of.html
07-09-2008, 09:19 PM
TrappinGal

who gave him that credit and condones it? the white mans history books that who so id say your argument is with them, not me. theyre the one erroniously publishing facts, according to you......

i bet you dont even eat peanut butter because a black man invented it , do you? lol

i bet you use lightbulbs, did you know they wouldnt be here except for a black man?

and did you know that a black man invented the gas mask that has protected numerous whites throughout history? police and soldiers included?
07-09-2008, 09:19 PM
crashdive123

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Originally Posted by Sam Reeves

I'm not. Carver was credited for inventing peanut butter. Peanuts aren't even a native plant to the South Easter part of North America. The Aztecs had peanut butter paste before he did. Carver took the credit that belonged to the Native Americans as part of Black History month. How do you FEEL about that?
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ntions_of.html

So inventing peanut butter is what you think George Washington Carver is famous for? You may want to pay a bit more attention during that Black History Month that you seems to offend you so.

Agricultural chemist, George Washington Carver discovered three hundred uses for peanuts and hundreds more uses for soybeans, pecans and sweet potatoes. He start popularizing uses for peanut products including peanut butter, paper, ink, and oils beginning in 1880. The most famous of Carver's research took place after he arrived in Tuskeegee in 1896. However, Carver did not patent peanut butter as he believed food products were all gifts from God. The 1880 date precedes all the above inventors except of course for the Incas, who were first. It was Carver who made peanuts a significant crop in the American South in the early 1900's.
07-09-2008, 09:30 PM
Sam Reeves

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Originally Posted by TrappinGal

who gave him that credit and condones it? the white mans history books that who so id say your argument is with them, not me. theyre the one erroniously publishing facts, according to you......

It's politics and politics is the art of compromise. 99% of all politicians are liars. (this is my first assumption of this thread)

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i bet you dont even eat peanut butter because a black man invented it , do you? lol

If I don't I had better or else.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

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i bet you use lightbulbs, did you know they wouldnt be here except for a black man?

Edison invented the light bulb.

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and did you know that a black man invented the gas mask that has protected numerous whites throughout history? police and soldiers included?

The gas mask was developed by a German miner in the 1800s.
07-09-2008, 09:36 PM
crashdive123

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Originally Posted by Sam Reeves

The gas mask was developed by a German miner in the 1800s.

You may want to do a bit more studying before making this claim. It will probably pain you to learn that Garrett Morgan was not a German miner.:eek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Morgan
07-09-2008, 09:42 PM
Sam Reeves

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

So inventing peanut butter is what you think George Washington Carver is famous for? You may want to pay a bit more attention during that Black History Month that you seems to offend you so.

Agricultural chemist, George Washington Carver discovered three hundred uses for peanuts and hundreds more uses for soybeans, pecans and sweet potatoes. He start popularizing uses for peanut products including peanut butter, paper, ink, and oils beginning in 1880. The most famous of Carver's research took place after he arrived in Tuskeegee in 1896. However, Carver did not patent peanut butter as he believed food products were all gifts from God. The 1880 date precedes all the above inventors except of course for the Incas, who were first. It was Carver who made peanuts a significant crop in the American South in the early 1900's.

Geez, Crash. Putting words in my mouth? What I said was Carver was credited for peanut butter when the Aztecs were the first.

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The sky is blue

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Originally Posted by Rick

Not quite. The sky will be gray on a rainy day

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Originally Posted by Crash

The sky is purple on a starlit night. Stop posting nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Nell

That's the White's version

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Originally Posted by Coot

The nice thing about a clear starlit night is that woods are quite and even and old coot like me can hear a stranger approaching

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Originally Posted by Trax

And I can find them mushrooms and a clear starlit night.

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Originally Posted by trappingGal

I bet you think the sky is only that blue just for you, Sam, doncha? LOL.

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Originally Posted by Rick

See how many people here disagree with you, Sam.
07-09-2008, 09:45 PM
Sam Reeves

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

You may want to do a bit more studying before making this claim. It will probably pain you to learn that Garrett Morgan was not a German miner.:eek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Morgan

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A primitive respirator to be used by miners was introduced by Alexander von Humboldt already in 1799, when he worked as a mining engineer in Prussia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_mask

You're right. He wasn't German. He was Prussian. Sorry about that.

I guess your guy just stole the idea for the America patent.
07-09-2008, 09:47 PM
crashdive123

No Sam - once again you are wrong. You said he was credited for inventing it, but the Aztecs were first. He in fact was not credited with inventing it, but rather popularizing it.

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