Japan Info

The workers that remain there.

Aristotle, in his "The Aim of Man" A discussion about the "highest good" he writes,
"Even supposing the chief good to be eventually the aim for the individual as for the state, that of the state is evidently of greater and more fundamental importance both to attain and to preserve. The securing of one individual's good is cause for rejoicing, but to secure the good of a nation or of a city-state is nobler and more divine."

Many will know this statement in short form"the good of the many outweighs the good of the few,or the one".
It is spoken in one of the Star Trek movies when Spock sacrifies himself for the good of the ship.
Ironically,this also involved radiation.

In my opinion, it is a developing situation. As with all developing situations, the news is Contradictory ,so is of limited value. No denying something bad is happening, but you just need to visit the home page of CNN (as an example) to see the conflicting information they are posting. I think I will "monitor" multiple sources of news and wait for some sort of concensus to develop.
May I suggest a cool off period, may help reduce the level of acrimony.
Remember, we all have our opinions, perhaps prefacing posts with something like " In my opinion". Or if you are siting an article, post a site and then your interpretation/understanding

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by letslearntogether47

..."the good of the many outweighs the good of the few,or the one".

---

That won't play here too well. Maybe another forum.

I am not now or ever was upset while posting in this thread :) Everybody is entitled to their own feelings , Hopefully things remain friendly :hugs:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BENESSE

That won't play here too well. Maybe another forum.

---

How about the "electric generator"forum?:D

I have to wonder why many projects are build so large they cannot be controlled. Would it not have been better to have built more smaller reactors that a fire truck could supply all the water needed to cool it? I see it all the time. The Alaska Gas line is another example. They make it into a giant project that may never happen when thry could have laid a 2 inch line 20 years ago and been pumping natural gas all this time. Why are things built so large they get out of control?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Justin

I am not now or ever was upset while posting in this thread

---

Nor am I. I don't take things personally.

I just seen on ABC that it is now SNOWING in Japan,,, In the areas affected by the Tidal Wave,, AT SEA LEVEL,,,, wow,, that seems so odd to me,,,,,

http://www.weather.com/weather/today...Japan+JAXX0104

We should all just take a breath and remember we all share a common interest. We all want our families to be safe.

Again, we really have no hard numbers to work with. Panic based on vague assumptions and generalizations does not help anyone. Even if the absolute worst happens, the effects on North America should be minimal. There is a lot of distance between the reactors and the West coast of North America. Distance is good. It allows particulate matter to settle.

I have a healthy distrust of government, but we HAVE to depend on the numbers we receive from the Japanese government. We have no way of independently verifying the numbers they give to the press. Anything else is just wild speculation.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Alaskan Survivalist

I have to wonder why many projects are build so large they cannot be controlled. Would it not have been better to have built more smaller reactors that a fire truck could supply all the water needed to cool it? I see it all the time. The Alaska Gas line is another example. They make it into a giant project that may never happen when thry could have laid a 2 inch line 20 years ago and been pumping natural gas all this time. Why are things built so large they get out of control?

---

I don't think that technology existed 40 years ago when these were built, but it's something that is being worked on. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...0020375312.htm With even the newer Gen III reactors where cooling pumps are not needed, I don't think we'd be having these conversations.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by r0ckhamm3r

Panic based on vague assumptions and generalizations does not help anyone.

---

Who is in a panic? I have a fallout shelter.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Alaskan Survivalist

Who is in a panic? I have a fallout shelter.

---

I AM ! have you seen the jet stream projections ? lol ;)

If I am going to panic, it will be about something that makes sense, like those evil naked mole rats that are trying to take over the world. Their diabolical plans are about to come to fruition. Japan and the middle east are just the beginning. The next phase will involve their deliberate sabotage of my lawn.

I hope this doesn't affect Top ramen imports ! I'll starve !

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Justin Case

I hope this doesn't affect Top ramen imports ! I'll starve !

---

If I was under that much stress in California I would go to the doctor. Just one of many uses of medical marijuana.

LOL,,,, I know right !

This is the first time in years that I have spent this much time surfing the Drudge Report. Nice place to have access to about 50 wire services.

This thing is developing so fast that by the time we post something it is outdated.

Britain and France have issued warnings for all nationals to get out of Tokyo and off the Islands.

The sushi bars in San Fransisco are in a tizy due to failed shipments.

Fellows, if you can measure the spike it is too late! The bullet has hit you and you are walking dead. Just because folks are not dropping in their tracks does not mean there is no danger. I thought everyone had that concept down back in the late 1940s.

I heard on CNN earlier that the US Embassy is requesting all U.S. citizens to evacuate to a 60 mile radius from the plant although the Embassy website doesn't state that.

Happening Now: Live coverage of Japan earthquake aftermath


http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2


LIVE STREAM from local TV http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv

2000 TONS of spent fuel Rods: If you ain't read this when I posted it early on...........Read it now: http://www.survivalblog.com/2010/09/...ack_or_se.html

2000 Tons of spent fuel rods feeding each other............Recipe for Horrific.