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Only problem I have with roof tops isQuote:
Originally Posted by hunter63
1. You are sniper bait to higher roof tops.
2. If you are highest roof top you are now the biggest target in the city.
3. Roof tops will be very hot in the summer and very cold in the winter. That is my input on that ^^
Good idea though. Roof top offers alot of great advantages like
1. POV advantage over a great distance .
2. Signaling help.
3. Heli pad
4. solar cells can be placed on roof tops.
5 ETC, ETC, ETC...
^^
The SHTF scenario most likely to happen here wouldn't bring out snipers on roof tops as much as panicked crowds trying to get out, looters and a traffic nightmare of collosal proportions.
Moving from rooftop to rooftop (where possible) and utilizing fire escapes, makes more sense. You just have to know the lay of the land (buildings, streets, blocks) same as any other place.
Ahhhh - fond memories of being out past curfew in Korea. You can make it to your hotel (fifteen blocks away) by going rooftop to rooftop.Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
Yes those were fond memories. I also remember the first night after midnite curfew was lifted in the PI. What a party that was!
I have to ask, Kosuki, have you ever lived in a modern big city?
Bugging in may not be possible depending on the event. I am originally from New Jersey and I have thought about bugout possibilities for NYC. I could imagine things getting really nastey with such a huge population on a small island. My idea is by kayak. They even make collapsable kayaks for easy apartment storage. They can hold much gear too...More then enough. You can even keep a wetsuit handy for the winter. I was trying to enter a link but keep getting errors. a site to check out is oru kayak.
You don't have 10 posts yet so you are not allowed to post a link without it going to moderation. It's just one of the ways we keep a handle on spam. Once you reach 10 posts you won't have a problem.
Makes sense....4 more posts to go hahahaahQuote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Nessie, the best advice I could gie you is to get out before stuff hits the fan. Study and learn the signs, and get out when things don't feel right. Go to a friends house far away from NYC and hang out until you know it is safe to return, and if not, just don't go back. As smart as you are, I would think that recognizing the signs would be easy for you, and I think you will naturally know when the day comes. It is my opinion that the only way to survive where you are is to not be there.
Heck, come this way and you can hang with us!
As always better stuff comes out - these get pin holes in the corners too quickly so I take a pass on these now. Yes collapsable was great but buying one today is quickly returned tomorrow. As a "bug in" I use 5 gallon water bottles in storage and other plans. So I am open to better containers that are portable.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Here is one Idea
If you have a filter then a Platypus Water Tank is pretty handy. I have one of those and two 2 liter Platy collapsible water bottles. This, of course, is going to be governed by how many people you are trying to support. For just me, I can filter up quite a bit of water in a short time.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...WL._SX450_.jpg
http://www.rei.com/media/product/617926
In the seven years that have passed since I have posted that, it has not leaked or developed any pin holes. A few of the Aquataners that I have have developed issues though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl
Kudos to you for being honest about your skills and lack thereof. That you know that information and that you are asking for help to bridge those gaps is half the battle. The other half is accomplishing your goals one item at a time. As a suburban New Jerseyan I understand your concerns after 9-11, and that has been part of my motivation to become more prepared as well. No advice, just encouragement to keep asking the questions and know that there are others of us that are learning a lot from your questions and the community's answers!Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
First time I've really APPRECIATED being in New Jersey...at least in relative terms to NYC... no offense to Benesse... but I'm GLAD I'm in Morris County! But then again, when you've lived any particular place a long time, you learn skills that are adapted to that particular place.. for me, it's suburban..for Benesse, it's the city.. I'd not live long at all in the city, even without a disaster!Quote:
Originally Posted by SARKY
BOBIH ! That's "Bugout Before It Happens" ! Man I shiver to think being stuck in a place like NYC if the SHTF events take place. I come from a small town of less than 15000 people but no longer live there because I don't like living in the city, couldn't even fathom living in a jungle like NYC`! So I say, get out while you can if its at all possible !
Seems many are more comfortable running to the wilderness for safety and shelter.....
Many will try to "get back to the city" for the same reasons.
"B's" views and planning are quite different than many people would expect or picture in the minds.....and was very interesting for a lot of people.
Kinda wish she would stop by more often.
Where is she anyway.
New York City.
She has not posted anything in a month.
Hope she did not get mugged and thrown in the gutter!
Not with the knives she carries! Yea, Yea, New York. I just haven't seen her around. Just hoping she's okay.
Wasn't she really busy doing production shoots or some type of show biz thing? I live life on the periphery of that field and there are times you can barely get up for air for months at a time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
SO curious, it is going on 13 years now since you had originally posted this... What changes to your inventory, mind set, and any training or preparedness have you done since this was originally posted?
I've come a long ways since then and got as far as humanly possible given the state and city challenges. But the most important prep of all was actually bugging out of NY after 32 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael aka Mac
Only 8 months later, and I still can't believe how liberating it is to live in the real world. Some things are admittedly harder though, like having to drive anywhere we need to go, endless traffic, accessible first rate medical care, etc. Still...nothing beats the peace of mind and a feeling of safety that comes from living among like minded people.
Glad to see that you made the move.Quote:
Originally Posted by BENESSE
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