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It's also a sticky so it will always be at the top of the General Survival Discussion sub forum.
for 2 days, you should not need anything, unless it is cold. then you need adequate clothing, and perhaps shelter, depending upon temp, rain, and wind. Fire is often not much help at keeping you warm, if you lack shielding for it (and you) from the rain and wind, or lack walls to reflect the fire's heat, and so on.
Yeah, well, better to have it and not need than to need it and not have it. I just made that up.
WOW thats a great saying mind if I borrow that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Yeah, sure. I've got lots.
actually if your skills are up to par you wouldn't need anything for any length of time. the show naked and afraid is 21 days with NOTHING at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by senna
Foul!! Not true. He gets a naked woman. I wouldn't last 20 minutes. But, hey, that's just me.
hahahahaha!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by rick
not true. They each get to bring one item. I've watched 4 of those shows. One couple failed utterly. 2 of the other three required medical intervention to prevent death, within 2 weeks of their start. One time, the foolish man didn't make sandals right away, in a place full of thorns. In the next one, the woman foolishly ate inadequatly cooked turtle flesh. If you "think" that that show or the people chosen for it are good guides to action, you are badly deluded. And NONE of them have been dropped off anyplace where it was cold. It it was sub freezing, not 1 of the 4 couples would have survived 2 days, and they'd have been hurting badly in just a very few hours.
You are correct, they do get one item. And I agree that some of there actions are foolish. and in any freezing temps you wouldn't last but hours with no clothing , shelter or fire .Quote:
Originally Posted by senna
So the foothills of a mountain's rain forest wouldn't be suitable in a national park with no individuals for miles around, but plenty of game since it's a national park?
Would burning oil and heating stones to extend oil not cause smoke?Quote:
Originally Posted by erunkiswldrnssurvival
And when that occurs, and it will, kiss our collective bums bah-bye. It'll wipe out the majority of the U.S. Then the rest of the U.S. by the clouds making their rounds, revolving Earth. Probably an ELE.Quote:
Originally Posted by erunkiswldrnssurvival
Actually, the fallout would not wipe out the majority of the U.S. It might or might not be and end of life experience based on the amount of ejecta and it's effect on the atmosphere. Certainly wouldn't be a good day for a walk through Yellowstone, that's for sure. Here's a map of ash fall from previous eruptions.
http://www.earthmountainview.com/yel...loutAshBed.gif
As well as a list of previous super volcano events.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervolcano
I'm bumping an old post, but it's certainly a Sticky for a reason. Excellent post Rick, this was the post I anticipated for when I first saw it.
Notice that they never leave them anywhere COLD? :-) notice that most of them FAIL the test (or get real bad sick after "succeeding"? And they get to bring one item each. Which is 2 things, not "nothing".
Just cause you start with no clothing or shelter, does not mean that you can't have some, really quickly. They get to bring a machete and a lighter, if they have sense enough to choose such items. So they could have a fire in a matter of a very few minutes, then several fires, keeping them warm all around, while they venture outside of the fire ring often, to gather grasses, etc, to make clothing, or other items to make shelter.
Excellently put! I have practically lived in the forests of Northern Michigan since, well let's just say a few decades and leave it at that. I've changed, the landscapes changed, the micro climates changed. Things I used back then, although they are still staples for me, are sometimes not enough. For example, I am diabetic now, so insulin is a necessity, even without food, execise, stressors and fatigue can raise or lower my glucose levels and kill me any where from a few hours to a few months. So I take a pen, my micro tester and a spare needle. Never know. So, first aide is in the top of my list. I've learned lots of ways to gather water, believe it or not, gardening. Just recently, however, learned a neat little trick about making several types of filters. Although I've always headed out with basics; baggies, lighter/matches, first aide, and usually a reference guide (morale and reference), I have discovered what was "good enough" yesterday may not be enough today. Yea I can survive a few nights with a good knife and an altoids kit, but with a belt and a few more items, I can feel safer. Knowledge is the best thing ever! Taking game in a snare, although rewarding, can be a bit tricky if you want eat it afterward without knowing how to clean it or prepare it. I've eaten things I thought were pretty tasty, but wouldn't have if I had a choice (skunk). Most recently I took up deer hunting again, after a few years of idiots shooting at me (sound hunters are a menace!). Area is new to me, so I take a few more supplies. I occasionally get teased, but I always walk out! I get turned around on occasion, but when I do, I stop, take seat, see what I have, and breathe. PANIC kills! I then get my bearings, proceed as if it didn't happen. Thankfully, I've never gotten "truly" lost. But, I know what I have with me, where I want to be, find where I am, and continue on my "adventure". Knowledge, and remaining calm is the best thing. Basic equipment with practical use, can in most instances get you through. Don't take chances! Take precautions! Ask questions, learn, study, and practice.
Simple - "knowlege" !
I would have to include good health and physical fitness. There's a fellow at work who goes on about wilderness survival, but the poor guy is at least 150lbs overweight and can't walk 50 yards without getting winded. I really don't see people with serious medical conditions lasting all that long in the wilds either.
Way out in the wilds on foot one tends to discover just how small and insignificant he or she really is.
Knowing your own limitations. What is difficult for me may be very easy for you, and vice versa. A man recently died in the wild trying to climb up a cliff to rescue his dog...barefoot. Only overconfidence would lead you to attempt such a foolish endeavor.
A firm grasp of you physical and mental limitations, cross-checked with your environmental conditions, will paint the picture of your survival scenario. If that is askew, then you'll assume you are entering a survivable situation when in fact you are approaching your own undoing.
You can find good survival kits at website removed. They're not designed for long-term, permanently moving into the wilderness survival, but as far as quality wilderness survival kits this is the place to get them.
For most, that can be a misnomer especially in harsh conditions. Rule of threes- as a rule of thumb one can die after 3 minutes without air, 3 hours without shelter, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food. The Shelter part is key and generally under rated. With wet clothes or storm conditions hypothermia can set in, and if you don't have a way to get out of the elements things can get bad very quickly.
Hunter63 saying Hey and Welcome.
That site wouldn't happen to be yours now would it?....as that would be considered spam.
There is an intro section.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...-Introductions
I thought we once had a filter that would not allow one to post a link to a site so they could sell something for at least ten minutes after they had registered !!!
Here lately everyone that signs on is trying to sell snake oil on their first post.
That filter thing is hit or miss sometimes.
I'm thinking our latest spammer picked the wrong screen name since he couldn't figure out how to survive until his third post.
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Crash that was funny that one should be in joke of the day buddy.....................................
Tried to be nice......guess that didn't work.
The word "Guru"......makes me nervous,........like I have to go tinkle, or some thing.
Sometimes I think a good dose of luck is needed. Take Ishi for example, he had all the knowledge needed for his terrain but in the end he was found starving. I'm not sure if he was starving for companionship or food though.
I still think Ishi was shot by an irate husband.......Just a feeling.....
Oops wrong guy......I was think about Otzi
He may have been but he died of tuberculosis LOL.
Having the best survival knowledge and also the best survival tools will still not guarantee you will be able to survive. The skills, knowledge and tools are meant to help you so that you have a better chance of surviving...There are still elements that can kill you.
OK, OK, you are talking about the last surviving member found starving in California........Gottcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by randyt
I though you meant Otzi, The ice man.
I thought maybe my memory was playing tricks on me again LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter63
I live in Phoenix AZ and I don't agree with the easy society has turned out. I have plans but like I gotta talk to people that also have experience. I have a very generous amount of experience on living in a couple of different landscapes of wilderness. So like I just need some feedback
Post a intro and get started
What?......
Come on guys