Well - found this (can't verify it's accuracy) that supports Klkak, Hope and others that say no to the 22 rimfire. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...8224138AAHjM1u
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Well - found this (can't verify it's accuracy) that supports Klkak, Hope and others that say no to the 22 rimfire. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...8224138AAHjM1u
For some reason that link won't load for me. All you guys have to do is go back to the original copy and paste from the Wisconsin rule book and read it slowly out loud, it's in plain English,
No air, rim, or centerfire less than .22 means that a centerfire or rim of .22 or bigger is perfectly fine to use.
Here it is straight outta the Wisconson hunting regs for rifles read it and take it for exactly what it says do not read into it.
Rifles:
• Must have an overall 26” minimum length with 16” minimum barrel length.
• Are legal for hunting deer in areas not restricted to shotguns, muzzleloaders and handguns only as indicated by the maps on page 13.
• It is illegal to possess any rimfire rifle larger than .22 caliber or any center-fire rifle .22 caliber or larger during any gun deer season in shotgun only areas unless it is unloaded and enclosed within a carrying case.
Note: Rifled barreled shotguns and muzzleloaders are not considered rifl es for purpose of hunting deer.• It is illegal to hunt deer with any air rifle, rimfire rifle, or any center-fire rifle less than .22 caliber.
Cannonman, you seem like a nice guy, I think the warden misspoke, or something, I don't know. But the wording is word for word, same as Alaska's. And this was one of the questions on the Assistant Guide Test, that we created years ago. It is not personal, and I am sorry. But no rimfire, means no rimfire. And if I am wrong I will make a new thread and state clearly Hopeak was WRONG.
I just sent the following email to the Wisconsin DNR.
I will post his reply when I receive it.Quote:
Mr. Loomans,
I am a member of an on-line forum.
There is an on going discussion concerning firearms for hunting. One of the other members states that it is legal to use a .22 magnum rim fire to hunt deer in Wisconsin.
After reading the on-line regulations several of us believe it is not a legal practice.
We try to provide helpful, accurate information on the forum.
Could you please provide me with your understanding of the law as it applies to deer hunting in Wisconsin.
I thank you in advance for taking the time to help with this matter.
No you can't use a .22 rimfire.
Look, I'm the new guy here and don't want to cause a bunch of problems. I gave you the number to call. Please do. I'll come back on here tomorrow. The DNR agent who gave the talk has been working this county for a long long time, Warden Miller. He hands out more tickets than anybody I know and follows the rules to the T.
You're just reading only part of it, you're reading it's illegal to use a rimfire. That's it... but that's not it. Notice after rimfire there is a comma and then centerfire? By the way you're reading it that would make all centerfire rifles illegal as well...
Wow, klkak you sure know how to stir up trouble.........And then leave......:):):)
That will work. Where did you find an email for the DNR? I couldn't find one?Quote:
Originally Posted by klkak
I'ma call tomorrow.
This is for anybody who wants to sign up. I will bet one ounce of pure silver bullion. If I'm wrong I'll send it to you and if I'm right you find one to send to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beowulf65
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Originally Posted by Cannonman17
No ONLY centerfire sub .22 as in .17 caliber.
I think the call to the DNR office would be best myself but no way to prove to the skeptics what is said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beowulf65
How are you getting that to apply to one but not the other? They are listed together... It is illegal to use any rimfire or centerfire less than .22 in caliber.Quote:
Originally Posted by hopeak
Okay, I'm done with this subject until tomorrow. Perhaps I will have to eat my words and ship out some silver. Perhaps I will be getting some for christmas.
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Originally Posted by Cannonman17
Your on, I accept.
I would have gone up to $250,000.- There is NO question for me, what it means.
Cannonman, I admire you for NOT backing down on what you understand to be correct.
I'ma call and ask if you can use a .22 rimfire to hunt deer, I really don't care so why would I lie about it, not saying either is wrong but I will say in a survival situation I'd shoot a deer with a frig'n rubber band gun if it'd kill his azz and I could eat him so's I don't starve to death.
BTW I don't bet, so sorry. I will post what I am told though take it or leave it.
I would not have gone up to 250,000 because my father always told me 1) don't gamble, 2) If you do, make sure you have enough to cover the bet no matter how sure you are that you're going to win. :)
It is only money. Are you into Cannons?
Cannonman, I admire you for NOT backing down on what you understand to be correct.
Very true and I do to, and I'm not even sure what is correct. Hey Cannonman being new don't mean jack, I'ma be the new guy when I start with the team I'm going with so don't sweat it.
No, just a nickname-
I swear to God I'm not normally this argumentive!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beowulf65
So, while you're waiting, hike on over to the "Introcuctions" area & introduce yourself.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannonman17
Not arguing just different opinions, makes for good conversation. everyting's irie mon :D
I did already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
he did yesterday at 8:54 pm and welcome brother to the pack.
Oh and Sarge your wolfie picture scares me... he hee hee!!! he hee hee!!! he hee hee!!! he hee hee!!! he hee hee!!!
Sorry, my bad, missed it when I 1st checked;:o great intro, BTW & welcome to the Wolf Pack. Warning! they can be a little frisky at times.:eek: Good luck on your debate as long as you keep it friendly; sounds interesting! I can tell you right now that in Illinois you can't even hunt deer legally with a Centerfire Rifle nor OO Buckshot; slugs only, Black Powder, & Bow hunting is all.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannonman17
Where the Hill is Illinois anyway....? It is in America....Right.....:)
And Welcome to the forum Cannonman.......:)
I must be a glutton for punishment. For some reason I just can't let ignorance prevail.
Hey Hope, Where'd everyone go? It's only 10 of 10pm.
Looks like I'm going to be eating a big old bowl of humble pie through the course of the day. I called the 1-888 number and asked, he said nope. No hesitation, nothing, in fact he sounded like I woke him from a sound sleep... I went on to mention the wording of it and was met with uninterested silence... so I said thanks and got a unenthusiastic "yep." So... unless you folks find out otherwise I'm going to have to eat all my words, go back and appologize to everybody and worst of all send out some silver... *sigh* how humiliating! I'm still holding out hope of talking to the game warden though and being redeamed... looks like a long shot at this point but... Either way I will be having an interesting conversation with him when I see him. Now I'm off to go call the main teacher of the hunter's safety class and tell him- :rolleyes:
My generator ran out of fuel at about 10:15. no power, no computer.Quote:
Originally Posted by klkak
Time for my "humble" opinion. You CAN kill almost anything with a 22LR or Mag if you hit the right spot and are a better than average hunter. On the legal side I don't know any state that will allow you to hunt deer with a 22. I can just see you being checked by the local game warden and after he stops laughing you will be making little rocks out of big ones for a long time and the 22 will be on a tipboard the same day. Now this ain't a survival situation where anything goes, just a regular season deer hunt.
No no no... I never would hunt deer with a .22, it's just silly in my opinion. I hunt them with a .308, the whole discussion was about the legality of it.
I remember being deciding when I was a little kid that I didn't like the taste of humble pie and it's been a LONG time since I've been forced to eat some... guess what? I still don't like the taste of it! :D
well Cannon, I'll still go hunting with ya cuz I wasn't about to bring a .22 anyway, lol.:D That was fun catching up on this and watchin y'all kicking sand at each other, no cussing, no insulting, well done gentlemen. (polite applause)
So, big gun, please tell me, where is it written that teachers are always right? I tend to drive many people crazy as I follow a motto that says "Question Everything." However, I'm agreeing with Trax; you all handled that debate like gentlemen...you guys must have caught something!:eek::rolleyes::D:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannonman17
Don't worry Sarge - won't last.;)
Does anyone just want to do a little count of how often statements like that tend to pop up in these conversations? I never get tired of ....:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47