Ray Mears is better than survivorman and man vs. wild. He’s more knowledgeable, and the shows have been shown in the US. I haven’t seen them lately though so I don’t know if they are on that often anymore.
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Ray Mears is better than survivorman and man vs. wild. He’s more knowledgeable, and the shows have been shown in the US. I haven’t seen them lately though so I don’t know if they are on that often anymore.
I've seen the Aussie episode. He never ate a kangaroo.
That's because he never got permission from us.
They edit scenes like that. They take footage with a camera on the raft then footage from the banks then footage from Bear's hand cam and edit it to be entertaining. Not staged,
Are you blind, or just stupid?
Howcome ine minute there is a camera man on the raft, and then POOF! He's gone. That's the epitimy of something being staged.
They do multiple takes and resets.
Imagine the PETA uproar if he ate a Joey on TV.
There wouldn't be an uproar. WE kill off hundreds and thousands of kangaroos and eat them a year. Kangaroos are a pest. The thing is, you need a license to kill them (unless they're on your property or you're an Aboriginal). They asked for permission to use a dead kangaroo in their show (it was a road kill) to make it look like he killed it himself. THAT IS A FACT. THAT IS THE MOST PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THIS SHOW BEING STAGED. We declined giving them permission, hence that he never ate a Roo in that episode.
Is it really that hard to understand. The show is staged, it's just been proven. I know, for a SOLID fact that it's set up. Think about it. We recieved a phone call from the PRODUCERS OF MAN vs WILD asking us to assist them in STAGING A SCENE FOR THE SHOW! It's so freaking blatant that you'd have to be a numpty with a hard on for Bear to not realise it.
So Baer spends another week in the jungle, no jungle foot rot, no diaper rash, no rub rash's, no breaking out and no crapping in the woods.
We spend a week in the jungle, we get foot rot, diaper rash, and the heat and humidity makes us all break out.
Second week out, I tell my squad to go to the px and pick up a jar of noxema. They ***** and complain, but I won't let them go without it. They are also requ. to bring 5 extra pairs of socks wrapped in zip locks.
No underwear, aka boxers or briefs, green t's can be worn once we are off base. No shaving in the field and if you don't have jungle boots, you're off the squad.
Noxema is a wonderful substance. So after patrolling all day, set up camp. Drop your trousers, grab a handful of noxema, stick something between your teeth and apply the cream.
The first few minutes, shear pain, after that just as soft and supple as a babies bottom. But those first few minutes, yeeeowwww.
Now air out and dry your feer, put on a pair of dry socks, you're in Jungle Heaven.
Teach them to put the dvd back into the pouch after they watch it as dvd's are excellant signal mirrors.
The camera crew has never helped him in any way (Other than unwittingly providing light during a night time run from a bear.
So how about the dead kangaroo that they wanted to give to him to make it look like he killed it?
Explain that mate.
Cortaid ointment works great without the pain. I've found if I put a little on before I set out, I don't get any rash. Works for me everytime.
Ive never heard of noxema, where do you get it from ?
Noxzema is skin care product sold in the US (we have it in Brazil too) that is mainly used by women to remove makeup. You can buy it at most drug stores.
Though some have used it for crotch rot, that is not it's intended purpose. Imagine setting fire to your privates. Best description I can think of.
But after a few minutes, it's all numb. LOL. Pain for a few min. equals a whole day of relief.
Not for the pain weary.
about your original question about duct taping the wter bottle, its because he has his bear cam with him. thats how he gets all thos shots of him like 30 feet up in a tree or whatever. and he does explain the not getting foot rot thing in a couple of his episodes. when he is in those kind of environments he stopp every like 10 hours to light a fire and dry off his feet. watch the everglades episode.
i meant to say he has the bear cam taped to his water bottle so its always with him.
but i have another question. in alot of episodes he is boiling his water in a seperate little pot thats not his water bottle. is it just like the holder for the water bottle or what? hhmmm......
Bear uses a NATO canteen with canteen cup, similar to the canteen and canteen cup used by the U.S. Armed Forces. He's used black duct tape to hold them together in lieu of a canteen cover. According to the information he gives at www.discovery.com/manvswild (click on "meet bear"); he also admits to using a length of para-cord ingeniously knotted as a carrying strap...something he doesn't mention in the opening of his show. I just re-watched the "Europeon Alps" episode and he utilizes his parachute and parachute shroud lines as well, which makes perfect sense to me. The example needs to be set to use all resources at hand if you want to survive, one reason I like Les Stroud's shows.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimjimjimmyjim
Maybe they don't always stage it, like when they think they will get good enough ratings as it is and will only do it if he's getting along poorly. I believe both of you are equally trustworthy and are providing valid info.
thats how he gets all thos shots of him like 30 feet up in a tree or whatever
No, they also sent a camera man up on a rig also.
yeah i agree about the need of setting the example of using whatever you have available to you. i also just saw that show today. soe digital, keep your negative crap to yourself because fake or not his show offers at least entertainment and some basic survival knowledge and techniques. nobody really cares about what you may or may not know about the show.
soe digital, keep your negative crap to yourself because fake or not his show offers at least entertainment and some basic survival knowledge and techniques
Piss off numpty. I myself have even said several times in this thread and overs that the show is great and good fun. I just don't want young know nothing like yourself going around thinking what you see on that show is REAL. He gives both good and bad advice...and it shouldn't be taken literaly.
Pull your head in.
I remember on the elephant dung episode that he explained that something in the elephant's body made the "dung juice" clean. Personally, I'd dehydrate before I'd drink any dung juice, I don't care what critter squeezed it out.
As for the snake, I don't know, I been pretty hungry before...
the show is called snow shoes and solitude, les and sue went out in a place called tomagami, ontario.
good people, i have met les before. cheers
to paul vs wild..
please excuse my computer skills but on thing that i would like to point out is that a compentant outdoorsman would always be prepared even if going out on a "quick,short simple" hike, so although i find both interesting i think that les is trying to show the armchair survivalist how to keep thier uneducated butts alive or he could just be making a whole lots of money being entertaining but i happen to know les and he does live as close as he can to the earth.... cheers
oh yeah les does have a second season that he is currently filming this info came from max atwood who was filming me at the time doing a moose calf transfer...
the new season comes out augast 10.
I like them both. I started off watching Man vs Wild and then started catching Survivorman. I've read that Man vs Wild has some things setup for him but I don't really care. I think you can pick up good tips from both shows. I don't really look at it as a competition between the two shows.
I like them both...Bear Grylls is crazy tough and pretty crazy in the head attempting some of the things he does but you gotta respect him. Les Stroud, survival expert and tough as nails for filming it himself.
Plus ole' Les can really wail on that harp of his!Quote:
Originally Posted by tarheelfan
I like both shows. I think survivorman is a little closer to the reality many of us would face, showing ways to use parts of vehicles,cameras etc that we may have available and showing the effects of hunger,fatige and depression.But Bear is definately a bad-***. That guy will piss in his own canteen before he even looks for water. And is sure to eat a bug in every episode.
So then its safe to say you worked with Dr.Ron Hood ? If so, what did you think of him? How about the whole water escapade of this Mr.Grylls? I do not beleive. Please help, Man vs Wild is most unconvincing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanta Randy
This is an older thread, Bill. Right now Mr. G. is under fire on the thread: "I told you freakin' guys!" And for the record, I have personally talked to Dr. Hood on several occaisons but never attended his school. He seems like a cool guy, but I think he milks the "survival" game for a steep price.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillHay
I want to first say that I enjoy watching Man vs. Wild. It is a very interesting show that provides some very useful tips. However, I find it hard to believe that the show is not staged in some ways. On the episode where Bear tries to ride a wild horse, if you run the episode in slow motion you can tell that the horse is wearing horse shoes. I was very disappointed when I saw that. I had to watch it about 5 or 6 times just to make sure that I really saw that.
Soe digital:What you're saying isn't fact.
He does say it may have broken free of a ranch or barn.
Yeah.. the horses were bogus, and misleading. I'm pretty gullable but that's a pocket full of wooden nickels.
Yeah anyone who thinks that was a wild horse is a numpty.
Question for you Atlanta
I'm the one that posted in the other thread about having a friend who saw “some guy with an accent” in a ditch by the side of the road.
Is it possible that they were filming a shot that would have been difficult / impossible to get. i.e. They had footage of Bear crawling through a ditch from far away and wanted a close up, shot the close up later and cut it in to look like it was one continuous thing?
Or do they just shoot while he is out in the shiggy and go with what they have?
I don't really have a dog in the Real vs Not Real debate. I'm just interested in how it's made.
Thanks
may not be fake or staged but hes no ''LEE STRAUD'' thats for sure if you notice in the credits theres a survival expert there ......Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanta Randy
The name is Les Stroud, and he uses survival experts as well. These experts are indigenous to the region our boys are inserting themselves too and are giving them some advice & knowledge to fine-tune their skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by bravo30
uh oh... another hard core bear enthusiast... SOE digital i feel your pain
Soe digital:What you're saying isn't fact.
It is fact...because I've seen it first hand.
Or should we start referring to you as the BGG? Anyway, if you want to go to Bear's website (www.beargrylls.com) you can click onto Bear's Blog and from their click onto "Merchandising" for Bear's really cool t-shirts & Hoodies , & his very own recommendations. (www.beargrylls.itchyfeet.com/index.php. Be warned that they're selling the Leatherman wave for 89 Quid (Pounds to us yanks, around $180.) Everything I saw there I can buy State-side for half of what they're asking. The Good news? Bear says he's shooting a 3rd season, let's all hope it doesn't get canceled.
LOL @ Sarge!!!!!!!
OK guys, go to www.tvtattle.com and scroll down about 11 articles to the one on Discovery channel. Then click on it. Bravo Discovery!
Wow! Bear is off Discovery's schedule for awhile. I can't find any reference to him at the Discovery channel's web-site even though he was supposed to have a "season 1" show tonight. "Season 1" Survivorman episodes are on instead. Whattaya think?